Wests Tigers Sack Jason Taylor - OFFICIAL..

[Bones]

The way he was terminated is self defeating.
Could have easily announced a 2018 coach that will replace JT and let him see out the season. That's what I hoped for. The boys then see who will be coaching.
Now it paints us as amateurs once again, rudderless and spineless.
Definitely set up by the playing group again.

I would have thought letting JT finish the season even though the club didn't want him would be the more spineless option.

They made a decision and acted on it, that's what leaders are meant to do. Let's see what happens next, if they appoint Payten they are taking the easy option.

The season failure lays on who now?
Can't be on JT. He can't be held liable if he only coaches 3 games out of 26.
I'm glad it happened because the board will have to wear the spoon.

You answered your own question there.

The point is if the club wants to move on we are far better moving now. At least you can offer perspective coaches the benefit of an empty roster and full cap to recruit the team they WANT for next season. It would be a hard sell otherwise.

 

[stryker]

^ Those days are over. This is a good occurance for the club. Take a good squiz at who took the field yesterday. Hopefully a third of them arent there mid season.

 

[happy_tiger]

Well I have good news and bad news

Well just bad news

Marina Go has been talking to an unknown Under 13 Gladstone basketball coach that is 17-0 and has his team in the GF

Rumour has it he needs about 50 assistant coaches , please apply within

 

[Donald_Trump]

Toovey!

 

[matchball]

The way he was terminated is self defeating.
Could have easily announced a 2018 coach that will replace JT and let him see out the season. That's what I hoped for. The boys then see who will be coaching.
Now it paints us as amateurs once again, rudderless and spineless.
Definitely set up by the playing group again.

I would have thought letting JT finish the season even though the club didn't want him would be the more spineless option.

They made a decision and acted on it, that's what leaders are meant to do. Let's see what happens next, if they appoint Payten they are taking the easy option.

The season failure lays on who now?
Can't be on JT. He can't be held liable if he only coaches 3 games out of 26.
I'm glad it happened because the board will have to wear the spoon.

You answered your own question there.

The point is if the club wants to move on we are far better moving now. At least you can offer perspective coaches the benefit of an empty roster and full cap to recruit the team they WANT for next season. It would be a hard sell otherwise.

Could have easily announced a new coach for 2018\. Taylor is a big boy and would accept he isn't being renewed after the 2017 season.
The players surely would be ok with that. They stated they didn't have a problem with him, just wanted to know who will be there in the future before signing.
That's the professional way organisations work but I forgot, it's the chook raffle wests tigers organisation.

Board only have bought on their own demise so I'm ok with it.
Go won't be there 2018.

 

[TCL]

If we sacked JT to sign Payten, my God…

I agree, if we get TP i will be bitterly disappointed.

I'm already preparing my self for the heart break. This would just sum up the tigers to a tee, one good decision to oust JT then a bad decision to sign TP.

look he may get them to perform but i would much rather an experienced FG coach than a rookie.

 

[Newtown]

Oh well at least i don't have to keep my promise anymore and wait till after six weeks before i said anything negative about JT.

The bench selection was atrocious, the bench rotation was atrocious and the team were not playing well.

Kyle Lovett should have never played FG again or at all

Our attack went to water and our defence well its the same old same old and that was one of his key goals. Fix the defence.

It will also put the players on notice, no more excuses, perform or your gone as well.

Nobody will be on notice.
The players now have control. It's over.
Defensive issues will be there next week and the week after.

2018 is coming and WT will have a huge cleanout of players during this year to allow top quality into the team roster. That is unless WT are so stupid that they spend nearly all there new 2018 CAP money on the so called Top 4\. Par for WT.

 

[Telltails]

The conspiracy theories are running hot.
The same problems exist that existed three years ago and we have recruited zip. Instead of having a crack at the few fg players we have at the club your anger should be directed at those incapable of managing a cap and providing the fans with a team that is competitive.
We will never be competitive with the 4 good players alone and that is the sole responsiblity of the crap management that we have endured year in and year out.Teddy Moses Brooks and Woods could all play elsewhere and if they were smart based on our history and lack of success, and they way fans love to blame individuals instead of the system they should get out now- just like Ben Teo did years ago. But for some innane reason they have sense of wanting to play for the club. God knows why.

Fox sports and blocker are saying the same.
They all agree the club is hell bent to appease the so called 4.
Ivan Cleary hasn't even been contacted and it's firming up that Peyton is preferred by the players.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/balmain-legend-steve-roach-identifies-wests-tigers-problem-sacking-jason-taylor-wont-fix/news-story/a4a35c9f0422bff0452211fb2ee3e29a

Conspiracy theory it's not.

Accusing players of dudding a game is a deadset conspiracy theory! Who exactly are you saying was in on that?

What other conclusion can you come to?
They kicked out on the full, missed the tackles, made zero try assists or metres. Basically spectators with great view of the game.
If they can't make basic tackles as professional footballers then what's going on?
Jt was no way coaching this sh#t into them. It's on them.

We will see what happens v Melbourne.
I'll enjoy a 60+ thumping and see who the forum melts down on next. Now JT is gone the halves have nowhere to hide now.

I think it is usually referred to as poor execution -, and its not the first time we have seen it with this mob.Cant keep blaming individuals Matchball not one man leaving, or entering this organisation is going to make a significant difference. Its pretty much back to the drawing board again and good recruitment and retention is vital.

 

[LCA]

90-8 that has been the score against us since the 70 min mark in round 1

And 366 - 80 across NRL, NSW Cup and U20s over three rounds. Disgraceful.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

If we sacked JT to sign Payten, my God…

Channel 10 news just reported JT got the news and exited down the back steps and there was footage of him speeding off in his car. I guess you will be all over him GNR for this action?

 

[dazza65]

I have been noticeable by my absence in this whole Taylor vs Farah, Taylor vs Potter "debates" as I have always thought the Club has the right to decide and then let coaches, players, administrators live or die by their respective KPI's.
I have kept my tongue through all of the ups and downs and joys and heart aches as a tigers supporters….

however... i feel i cant any longer and need to vent a little....(LOT)

As a long time supporter and club member all i can say at this point in time is that the place is an absolute clusterf***

The players once again show they control the place but a **BIG** part of the problem is the Board.

The current board was forced upon the club by both circumstance and the NRL and unfortunately NONE of them knows ANYTHING about running a successful football club - PC appointments of supposed "business" experts - my eye.

This is not meant to be a humble brag but I have run many successful businesses and have been personally extremely successful - so much i have been "lucky" enough to be well off and retire early - by just about any objective measurement i would call myself (and others would call me) an extremely accomplished business person. Could I run a football club? Nope. Run the Leagues Club, sure, maybe, but NOT the football club.

There are lots of very smart and experienced people out there with the skills to run football clubs and/or to hold Board positions of Football Clubs - just because you are a successful editor of a fashion/travel magazine does not mean you know how to run a football club - typical short sighted PC appointment - some of the decisions over the last three years from this mob have been abysmal.

Whatever way you look at it the Board has been a failure and the fact that among many other bone headed decisions, they made the decision to remove Farah (right or wrong decision) and support Taylor and then remove him after three games (right or wrong decision) shows me that they have no "feel" for the game, the players, the workings of a football club. They are the ones who should be replaced.

Lets be honest, what other club has had the consistent issues with boards, coaches players etc over the last 5 years? Sure you have a Parra pop up occasionally etc but NEVER the consistent amateurish nonsense that comes from our beloved WT.

anyway, thanks for the vent…....

The place is, as one of my favourite acronyms states, F.U.B.A.R

 

[matchball]

Fox sports and blocker are saying the same.
They all agree the club is hell bent to appease the so called 4.
Ivan Cleary hasn't even been contacted and it's firming up that Peyton is preferred by the players.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/balmain-legend-steve-roach-identifies-wests-tigers-problem-sacking-jason-taylor-wont-fix/news-story/a4a35c9f0422bff0452211fb2ee3e29a

Conspiracy theory it's not.

Accusing players of dudding a game is a deadset conspiracy theory! Who exactly are you saying was in on that?

What other conclusion can you come to?
They kicked out on the full, missed the tackles, made zero try assists or metres. Basically spectators with great view of the game.
If they can't make basic tackles as professional footballers then what's going on?
Jt was no way coaching this sh#t into them. It's on them.

We will see what happens v Melbourne.
I'll enjoy a 60+ thumping and see who the forum melts down on next. Now JT is gone the halves have nowhere to hide now.

I think it is usually referred to as poor execution -, and its not the first time we have seen it with this mob.Cant keep blaming individuals Matchball not one man leaving, or entering this organisation is going to make a significant difference. Its pretty much back to the drawing board again and good recruitment and retention is vital.

Good recruitment and retention?
How can you even use those words on the wests tigers forum. It's like mixing oil and water.
We never get this right ever in the history of the team.
What makes you think we will now?

JTs sacking shows me they are backing the 4 players. You can't deny it. The board has bought into the hype for so long we would lose face by not backing them.
We've gone all in now. It's too late to let them go.

No other team in the NRL would take the 4 players together. We are dumb.

 

[rialto]

I would have thought letting JT finish the season even though the club didn't want him would be the more spineless option.

They made a decision and acted on it, that's what leaders are meant to do. Let's see what happens next, if they appoint Payten they are taking the easy option.

The season failure lays on who now?
Can't be on JT. He can't be held liable if he only coaches 3 games out of 26.
I'm glad it happened because the board will have to wear the spoon.

You answered your own question there.

The point is if the club wants to move on we are far better moving now. At least you can offer perspective coaches the benefit of an empty roster and full cap to recruit the team they WANT for next season. It would be a hard sell otherwise.

Could have easily announced a new coach for 2018\. Taylor is a big boy and would accept he isn't being renewed after the 2017 season.
The players surely would be ok with that. They stated they didn't have a problem with him, just wanted to know who will be there in the future before signing.
That's the professional way organisations work but I forgot, it's the chook raffle wests tigers organisation.

Board only have bought on their own demise so I'm ok with it.
Go won't be there 2018.

We had a really tough draw at the start and then will have a very good run after that. Not fair that JT has not been given the opportunity to coach to the end of the season. Another coach will no doubt benifit from the good draw after a tough start.

 

[TCL]

The season failure lays on who now?
Can't be on JT. He can't be held liable if he only coaches 3 games out of 26.
I'm glad it happened because the board will have to wear the spoon.

You answered your own question there.

The point is if the club wants to move on we are far better moving now. At least you can offer perspective coaches the benefit of an empty roster and full cap to recruit the team they WANT for next season. It would be a hard sell otherwise.

Could have easily announced a new coach for 2018\. Taylor is a big boy and would accept he isn't being renewed after the 2017 season.
The players surely would be ok with that. They stated they didn't have a problem with him, just wanted to know who will be there in the future before signing.
That's the professional way organisations work but I forgot, it's the chook raffle wests tigers organisation.

Board only have bought on their own demise so I'm ok with it.
Go won't be there 2018.

We had a really tough draw at the start and then will have a very good run after that. Not fair that JT has not been given the opportunity to coach to the end of the season. Another coach will no doubt benifit from the good draw after a tough start.

Some would argue that JT benefitted last year because of the draw and things that went wrong with other clubs. Swings and roundabouts.

Winning against softer teams doesn't show we have improved. The same outcome as last year against teams that hurt us shows that we haven't.

 

[happy_tiger]

After listening to the presso I get the feeling now that Taylor may pawn in all of this , get him to sack Farah , club comes out smelling like roses and then sack Taylor

I will support the next coach , no matter who we recruit , but in my opinion Todd Payten would be a huge error

 

[851]

If we sacked JT to sign Payten, my God…

Channel 10 news just reported JT got the news and exited down the back steps and there was footage of him speeding off in his car. I guess you will be all over him GNR for this action?

I see what you did there, and yes I remember that to, GNR wasn't alone in that though, there were quite a few other JT supporters.

 

[foreveratiger]

This has been on the pipeline for a while make no mistake about it , they just couldn't do it all in the one Season ( ridding Farah and Taylor ) . The body language by Woods at the press conference after the game last week vs the Panthers sitting next to JT said it all for me , i believe players don't respect him as a Leader of an Organisation….I've been waiting the Longest time for our Defence to be fixed what JT conceived was our biggest problem that all Clubs in the NRL thought of us , fixed nothing .
He was hired to do some dirty work for the Club at a Budget price IMO and now is the time to get rid of him so we can put the foundations for next year and beyond.

In regards with Todd Payten yeah his had success with the under 20's and winning a Premiership but in NRL terms means diddly squat at NRL level , i believe Ivan Cleary would do a job here and hopefully bring his son in the process but people need to relax with there thoughts on Payten we might be surprised as he might be able to do a decent Job....the risks are obviously that his been untried at NRL level but Cleary would be my choice followed by Steve Folks or i would even take Mick Potter back if Cleary didn't want the job.

The Boys Club is back or should i say has never left :unamused:

 

[mike]

6-12 months late but the correct decision. WT were never going to win a title under Jason Taylor's coaching.

 

[mike]

After listening to the presso I get the feeling now that Taylor may pawn in all of this , get him to sack Farah , club comes out smelling like roses and then sack Taylor

I will support the next coach , no matter who we recruit , but in my opinion Todd Payten would be a huge error

You may be right there Happy

 

[GNR4LIFE]

6-12 months late but the correct decision. WT were never going to win a title under Jason Taylor's coaching.

Doesn't matter whose coaching this crop of players. They aren't taking us to a title.