Wests Tigers sign Robbie Farah for 2018 Official

[TCL]

Yep - lost the plot over this one Happy

No he hasn't - he's spot on.

Short memories,Potter can not coach the team can make the 8 then the DUMMY SPITTER decided to trash the season …Happy !some have very short memories, this was the second coach the TURD had booted a very humble man and had the team performing. It will be a sad day when this grub puts a Tigers jersey on again .

Nice guy Potter but being a nice guy doesn't mean you are a good NRL coach. Neither Potter or Tayler have NRL roles which is strongly suggestive of what the other clubs think of their NRL coaching skills.

Farrah made that comment to Tallis in confidence. The slime Tallis aired the comment.

The fullness of time has shown that Farrahs opinion of Potter was to some degree right as no one has picked him up as coach and clubs preferred unknowns like Barrett over potter.

 

[Swordy]

I just read the NRL article and I have to admit that whist I have reservations about a return for Farah, I was not filled with any confidence after reading the article.

There is enough in there to concern me that his on field attitude hasnt changed.

Sure, he had a massive blow up with a d*** of a coach and that would be terrible for your enthusiasm and drive, but maybe its better to let him finish elsewhere and come back when his time is done.

On sheer ability, we could probably use him now. But facts are sheer ability is only about 50% of what you need to be a top grade player. Attitude is another %25, Drive and Desire is 25%. Im not sure he has the right attitude, inclusive attitude and team attitude. He has never had this, even as good as he was. He may or may not have the desire for the right reasons.

Its a big gamble indeed, it could be a master stroke or a complete train wreck.

Coach Cleary will be laying his whole reputation on the line if he comes back, and that's alot to lose.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Some would say the reason why Potter hasn’t gotten another gig was because he was sabotaged by Farah. Plus, like Taylor he had no cap to spend on anybody. Between those two hurdles, what chance did he have?

I recall that game at Gosford where he substituted Farah when we were getting on top of Manly?. Of course, things went south after that and the commentators openly questioned that decision It was not long into his contract I think then his judgement as a coach was under scrutiny (correctly as well).

 

[TJL]

Its a step backwards IMHO. IC is building a new culture or so I thought and yet the boy's club is reforming. All I can do is shake my head.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Some would say the reason why Potter hasn’t gotten another gig was because he was sabotaged by Farah. Plus, like Taylor he had no cap to spend on anybody. Between those two hurdles, what chance did he have?

I recall that game at Gosford where he substituted Farah when we were getting on top of Manly?. Of course, things went south after that and the commentators openly questioned that decision It was not long into his contract I think then his judgement as a coach was under scrutiny (correctly as well).

Getting on top? We lost 26-0.

 

[bbobb]

Think what you like of JT but he was 100% correct wanting his hooker to give quick service to the halves.

I cant agree with that at all.

The idea was to get the ball out to Brooks and Moses so they can run the block plays and link with Tedesco. Fantastic in theory and when it works it looks great but as we saw good NRL defences soon work it out.

The game has gone away from it, Jason Taylor was too slow to realise and didnt make any adjustments.

Most of the form teams in the comp and the better teams last season all engage the markers and bring the defence in before going wide now.

Shuffling the ball out to the halves with no threat in the middle is the fastest way to the spoon.

Yep -nailed it!

I am convinced that our service from DH is a significant contributor to our sub-standard attack this year. Oppositions are targeting our first reciever, cutting their time down.

RF would probably solve this issue.

In regards to Robbie returning, I think history can be handled two ways: You can learn from it or let it repeat. If Robbie is clear on his role and the way he can contribute to the team then I think he will march to Ivan’s beat. If not he doesn’t play - simple!

If I was Ivan and the club, the opinion I would seek would be Brooksy. Ask him if he is happy with the DH service he currently has and if he could work with Robbie and does he think RF could improve us. If those two can work together, much of the problem people are anticipating would be solved I would think.

 

[851]

Some would say the reason why Potter hasn’t gotten another gig was because he was sabotaged by Farah. Plus, like Taylor he had no cap to spend on anybody. Between those two hurdles, what chance did he have?

Yeah once you've been spiked as a coach, particularly early in your career, it can be very hard to get another look in regardless of your ability. Not many roles come up and when they do there are often a lot of options available. Right now for any given position that came up he'd have to compete with the likes of Hasler, McGuire, possibly Bennett and then beyond them the assistant coaches at any club recruiting. His circumstances don't say much about his coaching ability, which may or may not be good. I'm certainly not going to think he's a rubbish coach just because Robbie Farah didn't like him.

JT has been head coach at 3 different clubs, if he was any good ( and he is not ) he would still be coaching in the NRL, he through his own poor people skills, stubbornness, ego and poor team selections is exactly where he should be, away from here and not head coach.

 

[Harvey]

The difference between the head coach and assistant is massive. Some just can't step up from assistant. JT and Potter have been good assistant coaches, but have not been able to translate that into head coach. Dean Pay appears similar.

Siebold appears to have made the transition, but structure of that club is slightly different with Russell Crowe having the technical director role.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Some would say the reason why Potter hasn’t gotten another gig was because he was sabotaged by Farah. Plus, like Taylor he had no cap to spend on anybody. Between those two hurdles, what chance did he have?

I recall that game at Gosford where he substituted Farah when we were getting on top of Manly?. Of course, things went south after that and the commentators openly questioned that decision It was not long into his contract I think then his judgement as a coach was under scrutiny (correctly as well).

Getting on top? We lost 26-0.

No we were in this game and then the change came. It was a fundamental question of judgement and his papers were stamped for good.

It reminds me of the British General Neame in the Western Desert in around 1940 when his judgement and strategic dispositions were scrutinised by Leslie Morsehead, the then commander of 9 Aust Division. Subsequently, Moreehead was proven right and Neame's career was finished (he was captured anyway by Rommel).

 

[Cairnstigers]

One things for sure
If Robbie comes back it is because Ivan is doing everything in his power to get us to the finals this year
Hooker/Dummy Half is a position we are lacking in and Ivan is going for a quick fix with the best that is currently available
I am sure Robbie would not be Ivan's first choice especially at his age and previous history at the club
But he is Ivan's only choice of an experienced Hooker at the moment
If it happens all we can ask is Robbie tow the line and Give 100%

 

[Masterton]

Some would say the reason why Potter hasn’t gotten another gig was because he was sabotaged by Farah. Plus, like Taylor he had no cap to spend on anybody. Between those two hurdles, what chance did he have?

I recall that game at Gosford where he substituted Farah when we were getting on top of Manly?. Of course, things went south after that and the commentators openly questioned that decision It was not long into his contract I think then his judgement as a coach was under scrutiny (correctly as well).

Getting on top? We lost 26-0.

No we were in this game and then the change came. It was a fundamental question of judgement and his papers were stamped for good.

It reminds me of the British General Neame in the Western Desert in around 1940 when his judgement and strategic dispositions were scrutinised by Leslie Morsehead, the then commander of 9 Aust Division. Subsequently, Moreehead was proven right and Neame's career was finished (he was captured anyway by Rommel).

Ha ha, That is the queerest analogy I've seen on here for some time.

 

[jadtiger]

Some would say the reason why Potter hasn’t gotten another gig was because he was sabotaged by Farah. Plus, like Taylor he had no cap to spend on anybody. Between those two hurdles, what chance did he have?

Yeah once you've been spiked as a coach, particularly early in your career, it can be very hard to get another look in regardless of your ability. Not many roles come up and when they do there are often a lot of options available. Right now for any given position that came up he'd have to compete with the likes of Hasler, McGuire, possibly Bennett and then beyond them the assistant coaches at any club recruiting. His circumstances don't say much about his coaching ability, which may or may not be good. I'm certainly not going to think he's a rubbish coach just because Robbie Farah didn't like him.

JT has been head coach at 3 different clubs, if he was any good ( and he is not ) he would still be coaching in the NRL, he through his own poor people skills, stubbornness, ego and poor team selections is exactly where he should be, away from here and not head coach.

x2

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The difference between the head coach and assistant is massive. Some just can't step up from assistant. JT and Potter have been good assistant coaches, but have not been able to translate that into head coach. Dean Pay appears similar.

Siebold appears to have made the transition, but structure of that club is slightly different with Russell Crowe having the technical director role.

Pay is in a similar situation to Potter and Taylor. You can’t properly judge these coaches if they don’t have a salary cap they can lean on. It’s like judging an armless man in a sword fight.

 

[Dr_Ice]

Not sure about armless men, I have seen plenty of legless men in bar fights.

I know our hookers have been poor this year, however I think some are over rating Farah's ability over the past few years. He has played 2 NRL games this year with the form team, and against the Titans they were lucky to win.

Also he has been kept fresh, how would he go playing each week at NRL level

 

[Telltails]

I just read the NRL article and I have to admit that whist I have reservations about a return for Farah, I was not filled with any confidence after reading the article.

There is enough in there to concern me that his on field attitude hasnt changed.

Sure, he had a massive blow up with a d*** of a coach and that would be terrible for your enthusiasm and drive, but maybe its better to let him finish elsewhere and come back when his time is done.

On sheer ability, we could probably use him now. But facts are sheer ability is only about 50% of what you need to be a top grade player. Attitude is another %25, Drive and Desire is 25%. Im not sure he has the right attitude, inclusive attitude and team attitude. He has never had this, even as good as he was. He may or may not have the desire for the right reasons.

Its a big gamble indeed, it could be a master stroke or a complete train wreck.

Coach Cleary will be laying his whole reputation on the line if he comes back, and that's alot to lose.

For all the accusations of him being divisive seems to have remained good friends with all his ex-team mates who all backed him during the Taylor drama- including good friend Josh Reynolds. If there were any percieved problems with the current squad cant see Cleary giving it any consideration.
Yeh he is cranky when he loses and he apparently has an ego, and time would have him not the player he was, but he is not alone there.
Not convinced the drama the fans assume exists, is the actual reality.
What is clear if he does come back the he will wear a large portion of the blame if we fail.

 

[Russell]

Cleary has everything to lose and very little to gain with Farah being employed imo.

Prefer Lichaa - more a team player.

 

[happy_tiger]

One of the biggest issues many on this subject need to understand is you support your team first an players come very secondary as do the coaches

Not vice versa Yes you can support both and you should back whoever the coach picks

But when your love of a player exceeds your love of the club , something's not right

And the same goes for your hatred of a player (as a player ) when it exceeds your support for the club then it is an issue

 

[Geo]

Farah back in Tigers colours where he belongs.

Let's give this LEGEND a proper farewall.

I gave him a proper farewell last time he left while burning bridges, accusing the club of welfare deficiencies that directly led to the suicide of a young player and using his media contacts to drag the club and anyone that did not buy into his agenda through the mud.
I can’t repeat that farewell here due to the offensive language rules, needless to say I never want to see him wearing the jersey again.
Him as a mentor is like cyanide as an after dinner tipple.

Yeah then putting up Akouala as an example of driving a player toward suicide and how poor the Clubs approach to welfare was even though they ranked highly after the Mosese tragedy seems forgotten…

Anyhow A month ago was told it would never happen guess times change ..on the field you could never question Farah's commitment ...

 

[851]

Farah back in Tigers colours where he belongs.

Let's give this LEGEND a proper farewall.

I gave him a proper farewell last time he left while burning bridges, accusing the club of welfare deficiencies that directly led to the suicide of a young player and using his media contacts to drag the club and anyone that did not buy into his agenda through the mud.
I can’t repeat that farewell here due to the offensive language rules, needless to say I never want to see him wearing the jersey again.
Him as a mentor is like cyanide as an after dinner tipple.

Yeah then putting up Akouala as an example of driving a player toward suicide and how poor the Clubs approach to welfare was even though they ranked highly after the Mosese tragedy seems forgotten…

Anyhow A month ago was told it would never happen guess times change ..on the field you could never question Farah's commitment ...

It still may never happen, but bottom line we have a huge issue at hooker, if we want to entertain a finals spot we need to fix it.

 

[Eddie]

One things for sure
If Robbie comes back it is because Ivan is doing everything in his power to get us to the finals this year

And good on Ivan for doing so.

He is there to win games.