Wests Tigers star Robbie Farah dropped from NRL to reserve grade

[hobbo]

That's because most people on this forum have two brain cells to bash together and could probably take a pretty good guess at who I was referring to.

It's a crisis for the club, but it's nothing to get worked up over. If this is how you respond to something that has a minimal impact on your life, I'd hate to see how you'd handle a divorce, a death in the family or being made redundant (i.e. legitimate crisis.)

Buddy i dont need your permission to get worked up over something lol. Not sure how me call our pretend coach an IMPOSTER, has upset you and your girlfriend GNR4LIFE so much. Again its my opinion which last i checked i dont need to be approved by you. You sound like a cranky lonely man, with nothing better to do then worry about what i post.

Seriously bud , Gunners and CB are both good blokes and we've had our blues over stuff over the years

So I've either become the meat in their sandwich in your eyes or you need to leave it alone

No need to get personal

Farah is a on field legend , but he should of kept his nose out of management issues that weren't his concern

If he didn't agree with the clubs direction he could have left ,that would have got the clubs attention in a positive way

If he had minded his own business ,played footy, he would have 100% of the Forum's support at this stage

Where did you come from? and what does this have to do with you. Once again i can express my opinion in any way shape or form. If i have an opinion of our fake coach then i can post that. What are you the opinion police??, or did the other two get scared and call you in for back up lol. Its gone from 1 to 3, and i will keep posting so keep it coming little boys lol lol.

P.s CB i meant Bogan not buddy, how coincidental thats your name lol lol.

:laughing:

Ignore happy mate , he's just a troll :laughing:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I've had my fun riling up the peanut gallery.

 

[Geo]

For the stat lovers in us all….

Stats Insider: The biggest winner of Jason Taylor’s call to dump Tigers star Robbie Farah

by BEN GLOVER WITH FOX SPORTS LAB

JASON Taylor was right. Too many cooks were spoiling the broth and Fox Sports Lab has identified the cook who benefits most when Robbie Farah doesn’t play.

Farah has made his name out of his creativity as much as his toughness, so when he’s on the park the Wests Tigers effectively have four playmakers — Farah, Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses and James Tedesco.

With a hooker that plays a more passive role — a strong defensive presence in the middle but whose main function in attack is to shovel the ball out of dummy half to provide the halves with early ball — that number shrinks to three.

Logically that should make Brooks and Moses in particular more influential, without necessarily making the Tigers’ attack more effective.

So, what do the numbers say?

So far in 2016 the Tigers have played nine games with Farah involved and eight games without him.

When the Origin hooker suits up on game day, the Tigers are winning just 33 per cent of their games, with three wins and six losses for the season.

When he’s in the stands the Tigers get over the line in a much improved 50 per cent of their games — winning four and losing four.

The reason for those results is clear — their attack functions better.

In the games without Farah, the Tigers score an average of 23.4 points per game, almost a converted try better than their 18.2 points per game when Farah is out there.

You’d better believe Taylor was well aware of that when he explained the reason for the former skipper’s axing on Thursday morning with this: “The cohesion is something I’ve been concerned about and looking at for a while but it’s only been on the back of the way the team has played the last seven games, where we’ve got to the point where I believe we’re better with Robbie not in the team.”

To top things off their defence is marginally better without Farah too, with the side leaking an average of one point per game less when he doesn’t play.

THE BIGGEST WINNER

So far this season it’s quite clearly been Moses who has felt most suffocated by the influence of Farah with his performances going to another level when the Tigers field someone else in the No.9 jersey.

While Brooks has had fairly even contributions across the season, regardless of whether or not Farah plays, Moses touches the ball significantly more and creates far more havoc when his senior teammate is absent.

His average possessions rise from 37.8 per game to 42.9 per game, he’s made more than double the linebreak assists without Farah (an increase from two to five) and more than double the try assists (three with Farah, eight without him).

He also takes more responsibility with the boot, kicking more in the Tigers’ attacking zones, which has resulted in seven forced drop outs without Farah and just three with him.

Intriguingly Moses has made less line breaks and scored less tries without Farah by his side, which only strengthens the point that his game switches focus, taking the opportunity to play make for his side, not just run the ball.

THE VERDICT

There’s no doubt from a statistical point-of-view that Taylor has made the right call and Moses must be licking his lips at the prospect of finishing the season as one of his side’s most influential figures.

But what the numbers can’t describe is the mood at Concord, with the gravity of Taylor’s call sure to be causing shock waves throughout the player group.

A jolt like that can go one of two ways but if the response is positive and the Tigers put in a top performance on their way to a win over the Dragons, it could provide the impetus for a run to the finals that has seemed highly unlikely for the majority of this season.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/stats-insider-the-biggest-winner-of-jason-taylors-call-to-dump-tigers-star-robbie-farah/news-story/ee6cd440ba5f90fa3445ced498a68d05

 

[sheer64]

I've had my fun riling up the peanut gallery.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Literally every question is put to JT in this press conference, from team strategy to the timing of the team announcement:

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2016/07/21/press_conference_jas.html

He handled it well. **Straight answers.**

Yeah, we have a big problem with our cohesion in attack - that's why we are considered an attacking force.
I thought our main problem was our cohesion in defence.
To say we have looked better when he hasn't been on the field…anyone watched our last few games?

Straight Answers?????? does that include the bit about no ones place is gauranteed, as he has trumpeted all year
does'nt that bit of B\S Apply to our right hand defence , and Kevvie and his myriad air swings ,that he calls tackles, along with the ridiculous shooters that usually result in an overlap and a try.
or is that the gameplan from the Genius. seems like the nontackling right side certainly has a few gauranteed spots

 

[GNR4LIFE]

THE VERDICT

There’s no doubt from a statistical point-of-view that Taylor has made the right call and Moses must be licking his lips at the prospect of finishing the season as one of his side’s most influential figures.

But what the numbers can’t describe is the mood at Concord, with the gravity of Taylor’s call sure to be causing shock waves throughout the player group.

A jolt like that can go one of two ways but if the response is positive and the Tigers put in a top performance on their way to a win over the Dragons, it could provide the impetus for a run to the finals that has seemed highly unlikely for the majority of this season.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/stats-insider-the-biggest-winner-of-jason-taylors-call-to-dump-tigers-star-robbie-farah/news-story/ee6cd440ba5f90fa3445ced498a68d05

This is the only part that matters imo. If the players react positively, i don't think Farah's absence will amount to anything.

 

[happy_tiger]

That's because most people on this forum have two brain cells to bash together and could probably take a pretty good guess at who I was referring to.

It's a crisis for the club, but it's nothing to get worked up over. If this is how you respond to something that has a minimal impact on your life, I'd hate to see how you'd handle a divorce, a death in the family or being made redundant (i.e. legitimate crisis.)

Buddy i dont need your permission to get worked up over something lol. Not sure how me call our pretend coach an IMPOSTER, has upset you and your girlfriend GNR4LIFE so much. Again its my opinion which last i checked i dont need to be approved by you. You sound like a cranky lonely man, with nothing better to do then worry about what i post.

Seriously bud , Gunners and CB are both good blokes and we've had our blues over stuff over the years

So I've either become the meat in their sandwich in your eyes or you need to leave it alone

No need to get personal

Farah is a on field legend , but he should of kept his nose out of management issues that weren't his concern

If he didn't agree with the clubs direction he could have left ,that would have got the clubs attention in a positive way

If he had minded his own business ,played footy, he would have 100% of the Forum's support at this stage

Where did you come from? and what does this have to do with you. Once again i can express my opinion in any way shape or form. If i have an opinion of our fake coach then i can post that. What are you the opinion police??, or did the other two get scared and call you in for back up lol. Its gone from 1 to 3, and i will keep posting so keep it coming little boys lol lol.

P.s CB i meant Bogan not buddy, how coincidental thats your name lol lol.

:laughing:

You have every right to an opinion no matter how bloody wrong it is true

Just next time your at the shops go buy yourself an idea OK

 

[NT_Tiger]

I've had my fun riling up the peanut gallery.

It couldn't have been a challenge.

….......Your first two lines have actually put up another viable scenario: Is Pascoe allowing JT to have his way so if it doesn't pan out, they've got a reasonable excuse to march him?

Like I've said already, this asks more questions than it answers.

Is it too much to ask to see the situation for what it is, or at least what Taylor has claimed it to be?
He sees something in WT play (without RF) that he wants to pursue in the next game and observe the results. He has said himself, we'll see if it was the right decision. He has taken responsibility for the decision although clearly he has support from above. Nevertheless if it goes pear shaped he has to wear the result and he's prepared to back himself with the decision.

For the record, I am as surprised as anyone that RF has been left off the bench. I thought he was having a positive impact. But I'm not the coach.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I've had my fun riling up the peanut gallery.

It couldn't have been a challenge.

….......Your first two lines have actually put up another viable scenario: Is Pascoe allowing JT to have his way so if it doesn't pan out, they've got a reasonable excuse to march him?

Like I've said already, this asks more questions than it answers.

Is it too much to ask to see the situation for what it is, or at least what Taylor has claimed it to be?
He sees something in WT play (without RF) that he wants to pursue in the next game and observe the results. He has said himself, we'll see if it was the right decision. He has taken responsibility for the decision although clearly he has support from above. Nevertheless if it goes pear shaped he has to wear the result and he's prepared to back himself with the decision.

For the record, I am as surprised as anyone that RF has been left off the bench. I thought he was having a positive impact. But I'm not the coach.

The way he spoke to the media this morning, he sounded like he believed every word he said.

 

[tigerman80]

Buddy i dont need your permission to get worked up over something lol. Not sure how me call our pretend coach an IMPOSTER, has upset you and your girlfriend GNR4LIFE so much. Again its my opinion which last i checked i dont need to be approved by you. You sound like a cranky lonely man, with nothing better to do then worry about what i post.

Seriously bud , Gunners and CB are both good blokes and we've had our blues over stuff over the years

So I've either become the meat in their sandwich in your eyes or you need to leave it alone

No need to get personal

Farah is a on field legend , but he should of kept his nose out of management issues that weren't his concern

If he didn't agree with the clubs direction he could have left ,that would have got the clubs attention in a positive way

If he had minded his own business ,played footy, he would have 100% of the Forum's support at this stage

Where did you come from? and what does this have to do with you. Once again i can express my opinion in any way shape or form. If i have an opinion of our fake coach then i can post that. What are you the opinion police??, or did the other two get scared and call you in for back up lol. Its gone from 1 to 3, and i will keep posting so keep it coming little boys lol lol.

P.s CB i meant Bogan not buddy, how coincidental thats your name lol lol.

:laughing:

You have every right to an opinion no matter how bloody wrong it is true

Just next time your at the shops go buy yourself an idea OK

Damn you and your girlfriends are getting me real good. Wait oh my goodness did you use capslock, your girlfriends are going to be really upset about that lol lol. I will make sure in future my ideas are the same as you and your girlfriends so you dont get too upset OK.

:crazy

 

[innsaneink]

Haha TM80….meltdown alert.
Take two nurofen and have a lie down...

 

[innsaneink]

For the stat lovers in us all….

Stats Insider: The biggest winner of Jason Taylor’s call to dump Tigers star Robbie Farah

by BEN GLOVER WITH FOX SPORTS LAB

JASON Taylor was right. Too many cooks were spoiling the broth and Fox Sports Lab has identified the cook who benefits most when Robbie Farah doesn’t play.

Farah has made his name out of his creativity as much as his toughness, so when he’s on the park the Wests Tigers effectively have four playmakers — Farah, Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses and James Tedesco.

With a hooker that plays a more passive role — a strong defensive presence in the middle but whose main function in attack is to shovel the ball out of dummy half to provide the halves with early ball — that number shrinks to three.

Logically that should make Brooks and Moses in particular more influential, without necessarily making the Tigers’ attack more effective.

So, what do the numbers say?

**So far in 2016 the Tigers have played nine games with Farah involved and eight games without him.\
\
When the Origin hooker suits up on game day, the Tigers are winning just 33 per cent of their games, with three wins and six losses for the season.\
\
When he’s in the stands the Tigers get over the line in a much improved 50 per cent of their games — winning four and losing four.\
\
The reason for those results is clear — their attack functions better.\
\
In the games without Farah, the Tigers score an average of 23.4 points per game, almost a converted try better than their 18.2 points per game when Farah is out there.**

You’d better believe Taylor was well aware of that when he explained the reason for the former skipper’s axing on Thursday morning with this: “The cohesion is something I’ve been concerned about and looking at for a while but it’s only been on the back of the way the team has played the last seven games, where we’ve got to the point where I believe we’re better with Robbie not in the team.”

To top things off their defence is marginally better without Farah too, with the side leaking an average of one point per game less when he doesn’t play.

THE BIGGEST WINNER

So far this season it’s quite clearly been Moses who has felt most suffocated by the influence of Farah with his performances going to another level when the Tigers field someone else in the No.9 jersey.

While Brooks has had fairly even contributions across the season, regardless of whether or not Farah plays, Moses touches the ball significantly more and creates far more havoc when his senior teammate is absent.

His average possessions rise from 37.8 per game to 42.9 per game, he’s made more than double the linebreak assists without Farah (an increase from two to five) and more than double the try assists (three with Farah, eight without him).

He also takes more responsibility with the boot, kicking more in the Tigers’ attacking zones, which has resulted in seven forced drop outs without Farah and just three with him.

Intriguingly Moses has made less line breaks and scored less tries without Farah by his side, which only strengthens the point that his game switches focus, taking the opportunity to play make for his side, not just run the ball.

THE VERDICT

There’s no doubt from a statistical point-of-view that Taylor has made the right call and Moses must be licking his lips at the prospect of finishing the season as one of his side’s most influential figures.

But what the numbers can’t describe is the mood at Concord, with the gravity of Taylor’s call sure to be causing shock waves throughout the player group.

A jolt like that can go one of two ways but if the response is positive and the Tigers put in a top performance on their way to a win over the Dragons, it could provide the impetus for a run to the finals that has seemed highly unlikely for the majority of this season.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/stats-insider-the-biggest-winner-of-jason-taylors-call-to-dump-tigers-star-robbie-farah/news-story/ee6cd440ba5f90fa3445ced498a68d05

well…there you go.
You learn something new every day....on other days you read the same thing over and over and over

 

[NT_Tiger]

I've had my fun riling up the peanut gallery.

It couldn't have been a challenge.

….......Your first two lines have actually put up another viable scenario: Is Pascoe allowing JT to have his way so if it doesn't pan out, they've got a reasonable excuse to march him?

Like I've said already, this asks more questions than it answers.

Is it too much to ask to see the situation for what it is, or at least what Taylor has claimed it to be?
He sees something in WT play (without RF) that he wants to pursue in the next game and observe the results. He has said himself, we'll see if it was the right decision. He has taken responsibility for the decision although clearly he has support from above. Nevertheless if it goes pear shaped he has to wear the result and he's prepared to back himself with the decision.

For the record, I am as surprised as anyone that RF has been left off the bench. I thought he was having a positive impact. But I'm not the coach.

The way he spoke to the media this morning, he sounded like he believed every word he said.

Yeah thats pretty well the point I'm making. Why the need for conspiracy theories? This club gets beat up into dramas too easily. Coach made a call full stop.

 

[stevetiger]

I've had my fun riling up the peanut gallery.

It couldn't have been a challenge.

….......Your first two lines have actually put up another viable scenario: Is Pascoe allowing JT to have his way so if it doesn't pan out, they've got a reasonable excuse to march him?

Like I've said already, this asks more questions than it answers.

Is it too much to ask to see the situation for what it is, or at least what Taylor has claimed it to be?
He sees something in WT play (without RF) that he wants to pursue in the next game and observe the results. He has said himself, we'll see if it was the right decision. He has taken responsibility for the decision although clearly he has support from above. Nevertheless if it goes pear shaped he has to wear the result and he's prepared to back himself with the decision.

For the record, I am as surprised as anyone that RF has been left off the bench. I thought he was having a positive impact. But I'm not the coach.

The way he spoke to the media this morning, he sounded like he believed every word he said.

Yeah thats pretty well the point I'm making. Why the need for conspiracy theories? This club gets beat up into dramas too easily. Coach made a call full stop.

You'd like to think that this is just about the winning games and not about trying to shaft Robbie because he is on big dollars.

If it is just about getting the best team on the park and winning games then I think Taylor should be sacked no matter what because it's a bad call.

Don't make it personal. It's about doing the right thing by the club.

 

[851]

Literally every question is put to JT in this press conference, from team strategy to the timing of the team announcement:

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2016/07/21/press_conference_jas.html

He handled it well. Straight answers.

If you call lying handling it well, he again went on about the good of the team, every player under pressure to keep their spot not just Robbie.
What a crock of you know what, what about Rankin, he played terrible last start and is a slow half playing on the wing, Kev lets god knows how many try's in every week, Brooks misses heaps of tackles, Aloiai is offering squat, Halatau well is Halatau.
All these players need to go before Farah, yet the only players dropped on this accountability façade are JAC, Sirro and Farah, one rule for some, another rule for everyone else, the guy is a really bad man manager, with no idea. :angry:

 

[innsaneink]

It couldn't have been a challenge.
\
\
\
Is it too much to ask to see the situation for what it is, or at least what Taylor has claimed it to be?
He sees something in WT play (without RF) that he wants to pursue in the next game and observe the results. He has said himself, we'll see if it was the right decision. He has taken responsibility for the decision although clearly he has support from above. Nevertheless if it goes pear shaped he has to wear the result and he's prepared to back himself with the decision.

For the record, I am as surprised as anyone that RF has been left off the bench. I thought he was having a positive impact. But I'm not the coach.

The way he spoke to the media this morning, he sounded like he believed every word he said.

Yeah thats pretty well the point I'm making. Why the need for conspiracy theories? This club gets beat up into dramas too easily. Coach made a call full stop.

You'd like to think that this is just about the winning games and not about trying to shaft Robbie because he is on big dollars.

If it is just about getting the best team on the park and winning games then I think Taylor should be sacked no matter what because it's a bad call.

Don't make it personal. It's about doing the right thing by the club.

But thats just your opinion…it doesnt make it true its a bad call
\
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I can live with it being simply a coaches call...doesnt really affect me tomorrow or moving forward, yet some here are carrying on like its a life changing event

 

[innsaneink]

Literally every question is put to JT in this press conference, from team strategy to the timing of the team announcement:

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2016/07/21/press_conference_jas.html

He handled it well. Straight answers.

If you call lying handling it well, he again went on about the good of the team, every player under pressure to keep their spot not just Robbie.
What a crock of you know what, what about Rankin, he played terrible last start and is a slow half playing on the wing, Kev lets god knows how many try's in every week, Brooks misses heaps of tackles, Aloiai is offering squat, Halatau well is Halatau.
All these players need to go before Farah, yet the only players dropped on this accountability façade are JAC, Sirro and Farah, one rule for some, another rule for everyone else, the guy is a really bad man manager, with no idea. :angry:

I think you need some clarification on what 'lying' means

 

[851]

Literally every question is put to JT in this press conference, from team strategy to the timing of the team announcement:

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2016/07/21/press_conference_jas.html

He handled it well. Straight answers.

If you call lying handling it well, he again went on about the good of the team, every player under pressure to keep their spot not just Robbie.
What a crock of you know what, what about Rankin, he played terrible last start and is a slow half playing on the wing, Kev lets god knows how many try's in every week, Brooks misses heaps of tackles, Aloiai is offering squat, Halatau well is Halatau.
All these players need to go before Farah, yet the only players dropped on this accountability façade are JAC, Sirro and Farah, one rule for some, another rule for everyone else, the guy is a really bad man manager, with no idea. :angry:

I think you need some clarification on what 'lying' means

Geez you are a very funny man, JT tell lies, he can't be trusted, but you keep on loving the guy.
ly•ing1
(ˈlaɪ ɪŋ)

n.
1\. the telling of lies.
adj.
2\. telling or containing lies; deliberately untruthful

 

[sideline_eye]

For the stat lovers in us all….

Stats Insider: The biggest winner of Jason Taylor’s call to dump Tigers star Robbie Farah

by BEN GLOVER WITH FOX SPORTS LAB

JASON Taylor was right. Too many cooks were spoiling the broth and Fox Sports Lab has identified the cook who benefits most when Robbie Farah doesn’t play.

Farah has made his name out of his creativity as much as his toughness, so when he’s on the park the Wests Tigers effectively have four playmakers — Farah, Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses and James Tedesco.

With a hooker that plays a more passive role — a strong defensive presence in the middle but whose main function in attack is to shovel the ball out of dummy half to provide the halves with early ball — that number shrinks to three.

Logically that should make Brooks and Moses in particular more influential, without necessarily making the Tigers’ attack more effective.

So, what do the numbers say?

So far in 2016 the Tigers have played nine games with Farah involved and eight games without him.

When the Origin hooker suits up on game day, the Tigers are winning just 33 per cent of their games, with three wins and six losses for the season.

When he’s in the stands the Tigers get over the line in a much improved 50 per cent of their games — winning four and losing four.

The reason for those results is clear — their attack functions better.

In the games without Farah, the Tigers score an average of 23.4 points per game, almost a converted try better than their 18.2 points per game when Farah is out there.

You’d better believe Taylor was well aware of that when he explained the reason for the former skipper’s axing on Thursday morning with this: “The cohesion is something I’ve been concerned about and looking at for a while but it’s only been on the back of the way the team has played the last seven games, where we’ve got to the point where I believe we’re better with Robbie not in the team.”

To top things off their defence is marginally better without Farah too, with the side leaking an average of one point per game less when he doesn’t play.

THE BIGGEST WINNER

So far this season it’s quite clearly been Moses who has felt most suffocated by the influence of Farah with his performances going to another level when the Tigers field someone else in the No.9 jersey.

While Brooks has had fairly even contributions across the season, regardless of whether or not Farah plays, Moses touches the ball significantly more and creates far more havoc when his senior teammate is absent.

His average possessions rise from 37.8 per game to 42.9 per game, he’s made more than double the linebreak assists without Farah (an increase from two to five) and more than double the try assists (three with Farah, eight without him).

He also takes more responsibility with the boot, kicking more in the Tigers’ attacking zones, which has resulted in seven forced drop outs without Farah and just three with him.

Intriguingly Moses has made less line breaks and scored less tries without Farah by his side, which only strengthens the point that his game switches focus, taking the opportunity to play make for his side, not just run the ball.

THE VERDICT

There’s no doubt from a statistical point-of-view that Taylor has made the right call and Moses must be licking his lips at the prospect of finishing the season as one of his side’s most influential figures.

But what the numbers can’t describe is the mood at Concord, with the gravity of Taylor’s call sure to be causing shock waves throughout the player group.

A jolt like that can go one of two ways but if the response is positive and the Tigers put in a top performance on their way to a win over the Dragons, it could provide the impetus for a run to the finals that has seemed highly unlikely for the majority of this season.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/stats-insider-the-biggest-winner-of-jason-taylors-call-to-dump-tigers-star-robbie-farah/news-story/ee6cd440ba5f90fa3445ced498a68d05

Thank you, game set and match to JT, regardless of the result on Sunday.

 

[innsaneink]

He handled it well. Straight answers.

If you call lying handling it well, he again went on about the good of the team, every player under pressure to keep their spot not just Robbie.
What a crock of you know what, what about Rankin, he played terrible last start and is a slow half playing on the wing, Kev lets god knows how many try's in every week, Brooks misses heaps of tackles, Aloiai is offering squat, Halatau well is Halatau.
All these players need to go before Farah, yet the only players dropped on this accountability façade are JAC, Sirro and Farah, one rule for some, another rule for everyone else, the guy is a really bad man manager, with no idea. :angry:

I think you need some clarification on what 'lying' means

Geez you are a very funny man, JT tell lies, he can't be trusted, but you keep on loving the guy.
ly•ing1
(ˈlaɪ ɪŋ)

n.
1\. the telling of lies.
adj.
2\. telling or containing lies; deliberately untruthful

I dont love him. I follow the club. Hes the coach, thats all
You however seem to despise him, loathe him…yet you talk about him every day...strange habit there.

What lies does he tell?