Wests Tigers Team v Cowboys Rd 5

[avocadoontoast]

At this point he’s tried everyone anyway so there’s no ‘experimenting’ really.

Isn't that the very definition of experimenting?

Dropping players for not performing isn’t experimenting lol that’s just good coaching. You wanna keep guys in the team who aren’t good enough?

No, but again, isn't it the coaches job to know what players are good enough? It's not like the guys that got dropped (Seyfarth, Clark, Jennings) were playing below their best. They just weren't good to begin with.

Clark had plenty of good games last year and Seyfarth was on debut so you can’t really say they weren’t good enough to begin with. It’s not like the other options played any better so he played the guys who worked the hardest for The spot.

Clark was not very good at all last year and Seyfarth wasn't too flash even in CC.

 

[Russell]

How is Jennings in ahead of Corey Thompson...oh

Well done tigers

Yes it would be nice to have Thompson on the wing this weekend but he has gone
With Jennings back on the Wing it shows our depth or lack of for the Wing position
But I have faith
I would be both extremely surprised and disappointed if Madge has let Corey go without a replacement being signed
I am expecting an announcement in another 48 hours ?

I’m thinking the 48 hours thing is sarcasm wrapped in irony right?

Yes mate
But I do believe Madge has a plan here
Surely he wouldn't let Thompson go without a better replacement lined up
He would know the backlash he would receive by doing so
The only way to appease everyone is to Sign a better player who can add something more to our team
And in a position of need

Seriously hope you are right. Secretly expecting to hear rankin is back

Well, that would be a sensational upgrade on "The Bludger."

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Please tell me


- what’s the go with Taylor surely gets a run

- should benj be on the benj as the super sub or do we leave him out or we will never change


Thoughts on McIntyre


Are Taylor and McQueen off contract next year?

Taylor - In a slower format always gave away lots of penalties, always seemed to give 100% however must be out of favor with Madge.

Benji - Surprised that not starting from the Bench at least, if Brooks/Reynolds can't manufacture points always an option to move reynolds to hooker to give grant a rest and bring on a fresh Benji so his defense would be stronger.
I do have to question the logic but i am not the coach.

McIntyre - Think coach is giving all players a run see how they perform, has to cut maybe 6/8 exiting squad so wants to know who can retain.

Yes both Taylor and McQueen off contract next year and doubt they will be around in 2021.

 

[JC99]

At this point he’s tried everyone anyway so there’s no ‘experimenting’ really.

Isn't that the very definition of experimenting?

Dropping players for not performing isn’t experimenting lol that’s just good coaching. You wanna keep guys in the team who aren’t good enough?

No, but again, isn't it the coaches job to know what players are good enough? It's not like the guys that got dropped (Seyfarth, Clark, Jennings) were playing below their best. They just weren't good to begin with.

Clark had plenty of good games last year and Seyfarth was on debut so you can’t really say they weren’t good enough to begin with. It’s not like the other options played any better so he played the guys who worked the hardest for The spot.

Clark was not very good at all last year and Seyfarth wasn't too flash even in CC.

Clark was solid last year. Seyfarth worked his as off to earn his spot over guys who came back from iso who weren’t as fit. Now Musgrove is fit again he’s playing

 

[avocadoontoast]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

 

[JC99]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year? We won then lost then won. Pretty hard to make major changes after that

 

[avocadoontoast]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year?

I'm not the coach, he is. And he gets paid a lot of money to make those decisions. At the moment it looks like he's using a dartboard to select his bench each week.

 

[avocadoontoast]

At this point he’s tried everyone anyway so there’s no ‘experimenting’ really.

Isn't that the very definition of experimenting?

Dropping players for not performing isn’t experimenting lol that’s just good coaching. You wanna keep guys in the team who aren’t good enough?

No, but again, isn't it the coaches job to know what players are good enough? It's not like the guys that got dropped (Seyfarth, Clark, Jennings) were playing below their best. They just weren't good to begin with.

Clark had plenty of good games last year and Seyfarth was on debut so you can’t really say they weren’t good enough to begin with. It’s not like the other options played any better so he played the guys who worked the hardest for The spot.

Clark was not very good at all last year and Seyfarth wasn't too flash even in CC.

Clark was solid last year. Seyfarth worked his as off to earn his spot over guys who came back from iso who weren’t as fit. Now Musgrove is fit again he’s playing

Clark is a total plodder, so is Seyfarth.

 

[JC99]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year?

I'm not the coach, he is. And he gets paid a lot of money to make those decisions. At the moment it looks like he's using a dartboard to select his bench each week.

Again, he’s dropping players who didn’t play good enough. Not sure why you’re against that?

 

[TheDaBoss]

At this point he’s tried everyone anyway so there’s no ‘experimenting’ really.

Isn't that the very definition of experimenting?

Dropping players for not performing isn’t experimenting lol that’s just good coaching. You wanna keep guys in the team who aren’t good enough?

No, but again, isn't it the coaches job to know what players are good enough? It's not like the guys that got dropped (Seyfarth, Clark, Jennings) were playing below their best. They just weren't good to begin with.

Clark had plenty of good games last year and Seyfarth was on debut so you can’t really say they weren’t good enough to begin with. It’s not like the other options played any better so he played the guys who worked the hardest for The spot.

Clark was not very good at all last year and Seyfarth wasn't too flash even in CC.

Clark was solid last year. Seyfarth worked his as off to earn his spot over guys who came back from iso who weren’t as fit. Now Musgrove is fit again he’s playing

Clark is a total plodder, so is Seyfarth.

i see more potential in Seyfarth than Clark

 

[avocadoontoast]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year?

I'm not the coach, he is. And he gets paid a lot of money to make those decisions. At the moment it looks like he's using a dartboard to select his bench each week.

Again, he’s dropping players who didn’t play good enough. Not sure why you’re against that?

Because they weren't good enough to be selected in the first place.

 

[JC99]

At this point he’s tried everyone anyway so there’s no ‘experimenting’ really.

Isn't that the very definition of experimenting?

Dropping players for not performing isn’t experimenting lol that’s just good coaching. You wanna keep guys in the team who aren’t good enough?

No, but again, isn't it the coaches job to know what players are good enough? It's not like the guys that got dropped (Seyfarth, Clark, Jennings) were playing below their best. They just weren't good to begin with.

Clark had plenty of good games last year and Seyfarth was on debut so you can’t really say they weren’t good enough to begin with. It’s not like the other options played any better so he played the guys who worked the hardest for The spot.

Clark was not very good at all last year and Seyfarth wasn't too flash even in CC.

Clark was solid last year. Seyfarth worked his as off to earn his spot over guys who came back from iso who weren’t as fit. Now Musgrove is fit again he’s playing

Clark is a total plodder, so is Seyfarth.

You can say the same for all our bench forwards, it’s a big issue that none of those guys are good enough. Considering just about all of them are off contract I don’t see Madge keeping any of them, he’ll bring some new guys in

 

[hobbo1]

At this point he’s tried everyone anyway so there’s no ‘experimenting’ really.

Isn't that the very definition of experimenting?

Dropping players for not performing isn’t experimenting lol that’s just good coaching. You wanna keep guys in the team who aren’t good enough?

No, but again, isn't it the coaches job to know what players are good enough? It's not like the guys that got dropped (Seyfarth, Clark, Jennings) were playing below their best. They just weren't good to begin with.

Clark had plenty of good games last year and Seyfarth was on debut so you can’t really say they weren’t good enough to begin with. It’s not like the other options played any better so he played the guys who worked the hardest for The spot.

Clark was not very good at all last year and Seyfarth wasn't too flash even in CC.

Clark was solid last year. Seyfarth worked his as off to earn his spot over guys who came back from iso who weren’t as fit. Now Musgrove is fit again he’s playing

Clark is a total plodder, so is Seyfarth.

i see more potential in Seyfarth than Clark

Beer goggles ?

 

[JC99]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year?

I'm not the coach, he is. And he gets paid a lot of money to make those decisions. At the moment it looks like he's using a dartboard to select his bench each week.

Again, he’s dropping players who didn’t play good enough. Not sure why you’re against that?

Because they weren't good enough to be selected in the first place.

Then who was? There’s not many options mate ? they’re all considered ‘plodders’ on this forums.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year?

I'm not the coach, he is. And he gets paid a lot of money to make those decisions. At the moment it looks like he's using a dartboard to select his bench each week.

Again, he’s dropping players who didn’t play good enough. Not sure why you’re against that?

Because they weren't good enough to be selected in the first place.

Then who was? There’s not many options mate ? they’re all considered ‘plodders’ on this forums.

Eisenhuth is a massive plodder but at least he's a good defender. Musgrove 30kg overweight is more effective than Clark/Seyfarth.

Let's remember our bench was Seyfarth/Clark as our middle rotation with Rowdy coming on for 10 minutes for zero impact at the end. That is not good bench selection and even worse interchange management.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Im really enjoying watching Madge change the culture in this club....
Dropping players not performing to NRL standard,including our Icon Benji,at his best -brilliant,however he is getting older and has the worst defensive record this year in the NRL,Madge builds his game on strong defensive plans..
What most don't realise is that there is a number of players in the squad that have not been able to get a run with State Cup being called off due to covid,Madge is giving some a run to get an idea of where they are at and to see if they are NRL quality...if you look at it in perspective he is trying to be as fair as he can while trying to field a strong competitive team..this year is an unprecedented year all around,it has affected not only the NRL but the community as a whole,Madge is doing his best under these circumstances..
Our depth as far as experience and quality, is rather thin and we have many young up and comers that need to get game time and this is Madge doing just that,otherwise he will never know what he has to pick from when injuries or illness hits the team.
Im not one to bang on about not making the finals is another failure,Im more of supporting the coach who is making changes so the club and team will be a success going forward for a number of years to come..
What Madge has done doesn't please everyone...but hard decisions have to be made,he is an NRL level coach,I have faith in what he is trying to achieve...
For those whinging and whining about not making the finals they should go and follow the Roosters or Storm...Iam much happier supporting a hard working coach who is doing his utmost to get this club from the rabble it was to a constantly hard working team that will become a top team in the future..
The Raiders game has given us an insight to where Madge is trying to take this team with what he has got to work with,I will support him all the way as I watch the progress of this team throughout the season..

Agree Madge is a better coach than prior and support him dropping Marshall.
Yes he is looking at the full roster which i supported in an earlier post.
It does show roster is light when Jennings comes back in he is 6ft 3 a full time professional player and can't catch a bomb????
Think Madge could also be smarter with his bench and have Benji on the bench coming in later and when fresh may not miss tackles.
Let's hope they perform like last week attitude wise and we will WIN.
Money also seems to be going tigers way firming into $1.80 favorites not sure if this is a good or bad thing....lol

 

[JC99]

Eisenhuth, Jennings and Mcintyre. Cowboys have major injuries and average at best but we will struggle. Too many weak links in our side this week.

Not many other options really. Clark and Seyfarth didn’t set the world on fire either. May as well give Eiso and McIntyre a chance to prove themselves

Madge is for sure sussing out which of these off contract forwards to keep and who to boot. Then he can sign some new guys hopefully but that’s a while away

Great system, don't worry about winning games, just try out players.

Obviously he has given up on the 2020 season by the look of it.

None of the bench forwards have done that well, why not give the other guys a go? It’s more that than anything, we need someone to prove themselves and lock down that bench spot. No ones given up on the season especially not Madge ? also helps keep the squad fitness up.

Should he have not had an idea who would be our best rotation rather than trial and error every week? By the time he’s done experimenting the season will be out of our grasp. I’m with @Russell on this one.

How would he know if he’s not given these guys a chance, there’s no reserve grade either. The whole team is set, it’s pretty much 2-3 bench spots that are an issue. That’s because the players haven’t been good enough how can you blame that on the coach. Hes also keeping players fit something storm and other clubs are doing as well.

Would he not be able to get an idea at training who is performing better than others? Isn't it his job to know who his best 17 are? This is his second full season, he should be all over that by now. He's blaming the changes on attitude but really, he just made the wrong selections. The buck stops with him.

Also, what's the point of keeping the players fit if we're not winning games. For us it should be our best 17 every week don't you think?

Training is completely different from actual games, he picked the hardest working guys (Packer, Seyfarth) and they went pretty average out there on the field so tough to say he just made the wrong selections

You’re acting like he’s picked a whole different team from last week, he made three changes and two of them were forced. After the titans game he made changes and it clearly worked the team played way better.

He absolutely made the wrong selections. He got it wrong. As @Geo posted last week a vast majority of the starting team have been signed or re-signed by Madge. There has to come a time where he becomes accountable.

Selections for which game were wrong? The titans game? They won the week before you’re not gonna make major changes

From the start of the season. We were lucky as hell to beat St George, got bent over by Newcastle, beat Cronulla then got done by the Titans and the Raiders.

Easy to look in hindsight mate. What 1-17 are you picking to play the rest of the year?

I'm not the coach, he is. And he gets paid a lot of money to make those decisions. At the moment it looks like he's using a dartboard to select his bench each week.

Again, he’s dropping players who didn’t play good enough. Not sure why you’re against that?

Because they weren't good enough to be selected in the first place.

Then who was? There’s not many options mate ? they’re all considered ‘plodders’ on this forums.

Eisenhuth is a massive plodder but at least he's a good defender. Musgrove 30kg overweight is more effective than Clark/Seyfarth.

Let's remember our bench was Seyfarth/Clark as our middle rotation with Rowdy coming on for 10 minutes for zero impact at the end. That is not good bench selection and even worse interchange management.

Eisenhuth is just as much a plodder as Clark or Seyfarth. Better defender but the worst attacking forward we have besides ET. Bringing an overweight slow forward with the new rules is a death sentence.

The only issue I have with that bench is having Lawrence there. Had very little impact and would’ve preferred someone else.

 

[JC99]

Im really enjoying watching Madge change the culture in this club....
Dropping players not performing to NRL standard,including our Icon Benji,at his best -brilliant,however he is getting older and has the worst defensive record this year in the NRL,Madge builds his game on strong defensive plans..
What most don't realise is that there is a number of players in the squad that have not been able to get a run with State Cup being called off due to covid,Madge is giving some a run to get an idea of where they are at and to see if they are NRL quality...if you look at it in perspective he is trying to be as fair as he can while trying to field a strong competitive team..this year is an unprecedented year all around,it has affected not only the NRL but the community as a whole,Madge is doing his best under these circumstances..
Our depth as far as experience and quality, is rather thin and we have many young up and comers that need to get game time and this is Madge doing just that,otherwise he will never know what he has to pick from when injuries or illness hits the team.
Im not one to bang on about not making the finals is another failure,Im more of supporting the coach who is making changes so the club and team will be a success going forward for a number of years to come..
What Madge has done doesn't please everyone...but hard decisions have to be made,he is an NRL level coach,I have faith in what he is trying to achieve...
For those whinging and whining about not making the finals they should go and follow the Roosters or Storm...Iam much happier supporting a hard working coach who is doing his utmost to get this club from the rabble it was to a constantly hard working team that will become a top team in the future..
The Raiders game has given us an insight to where Madge is trying to take this team with what he has got to work with,I will support him all the way as I watch the progress of this team throughout the season..


Agree Madge is a better coach than prior and support him dropping Marshall.
Yes he is looking at the full roster which i supported in an earlier post.
It does show roster is light when Jennings comes back in he is 6ft 3 a full time professional player and can't catch a bomb????
Think Madge could also be smarter with his bench and have Benji on the bench coming in later and when fresh may not miss tackles.
Let's hope they perform like last week attitude wise and we will WIN.
Money also seems to be going tigers way firming into $1.80 favorites not sure if this is a good or bad thing....lol

Always worry when we are favourites. Cowboys have some new kids playing and for whatever reasons debutants always seem to carve up against us

 

[Russell]

Taylor offers less in attack than Eisenhuth, both great defenders but these new rules don’t suit Taylor at all. He’ll get another few games sometime in the year I’m sure but wouldn’t be surprised if he retires at years end.

Huth offers more in attack than Taylor - that's a good one Josh.

After the announcement of this team, I needed a good laugh.

Thanks.

 

[JC99]

Taylor offers less in attack than Eisenhuth, both great defenders but these new rules don’t suit Taylor at all. He’ll get another few games sometime in the year I’m sure but wouldn’t be surprised if he retires at years end.

Huth offers more in attack than Taylor - that's a good one Josh.

After the announcement of this team, I needed a good laugh.

Thanks.

He does... at least Eiso can make 150 metres a game. Don’t think I’ve ever seen Taylor do that for us ever. Doesn’t mean either are good at it mind you both are dreadful running the footy.