Wests Tigers Team v Cowboys Rd 5

[JC99]

Under no circumstances should Maguire be given an extension until early next season... making the 8 is not the issue with an extension it’s the fact that the team looks like a very poorly coached side Atm!
For me there is way to much talk about what is trying to be done , there will be a large turn over in the roster at seasons end so any talk of an extension should be left until at least round 8 next season .
It is seeing an evolving team culture and a structured brand of play that happens with most other winning teams that certainly is not being presented at present .
Am I sold on Maguire at this stage not enough for an extension ... maybe seeing something different other than 5 up and a kick could be a start!!

To be honest anything you say I just ignore because of your clear bias. You have Hated Madge for a long time and I’m not sure why.

 

[JC99]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap.

He’s clearly banking on these young guys stepping up next year as it’s hard to get a marquee signing but we definitely have the money for one next year

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

 

[JC99]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

Again, how much salary cap has he had to work with? A signing like Jennings for example, was absolutely last minute because he was the only cheap available winger with some experience and we desperately need a winger. If he has more room in the cap Im sure he signs someone else.

There’s plenty of good players no doubt but we are a long way away from being a top 8 team on paper. I think we over achieved last year with our roster so Madge is getting them going pretty well. Finishing 8th is definitely possible but I’m thinking next year is the year where the pressure is on Madge.

 

[JC99]

It’s so hard to judge coaches. How long do you give them to turn a team around. Look how long it took Brad Arthur but keeping him paid off, but then some coaches stay too long and the club goes downhill. I feel like you gotta give them at least 3 years to show what they’re doing and what direction they’re taking the club then you go from there

 

[boonboon]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

No your not good at maths. NRL squads are 30 players and have salary caps. If you were trung to work out how much were "his squad" you'd need to use it as a % of cap out of top 30.

The issue with the squad is the 3 highest paid players on the roster are Reynolds, Packer and Mbye - about 2.4m right their or 24% of cap in 3 players he didmt sign and who havent fired a shot. Add in Mcqueen on 350k and ur up to nearly 30% of his cap and top 3 players who have done bugger all.

Compare this to say the Knights whoose top 3 paid players - Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer and how much value the Knights get from them and what Madge has done with the rest of his salary cap is a miracle.

I would extend him out for another year now to end of 2022 at least mayby 2023. Who could we in relaity get who would do a better job ? Its not like Des Hasler, Trent Robinson or Craig Bellamy are knocking on our door and no one else is a better coach. Sharks, Dogs, Dragons would all love to have Madge

 

[JC99]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

No your not good at maths. NRL squads are 30 players and have salary caps. If you were trung to work out how much were "his squad" you'd need to use it as a % of cap out of top 30.

The issue with the squad is the 3 highest paid players on the roster are Reynolds, Packer and Mbye - about 2.4m right their or 24% of cap in 3 players he didmt sign and who havent fired a shot. Add in Mcqueen on 350k and ur up to nearly 30% of his cap and top 3 players who have done bugger all.

Compare this to say the Knights whoose top 3 paid players - Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer and how much value the Knights get from them and what Madge has done with the rest of his salary cap is a miracle.

I would extend him out for another year now to end of 2022 at least mayby 2023. Who could we in relaity get who would do a better job ? Its not like Des Hasler, Trent Robinson or Craig Bellamy are knocking on our door and no one else is a better coach. Sharks, Dogs, Dragons would all love to have Madge

You said it a lot better than I could. Gotta look at the cap overall

 

[PabloX]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

No your not good at maths. NRL squads are 30 players and have salary caps. If you were trung to work out how much were "his squad" you'd need to use it as a % of cap out of top 30.

The issue with the squad is the 3 highest paid players on the roster are Reynolds, Packer and Mbye - about 2.4m right their or 24% of cap in 3 players he didmt sign and who havent fired a shot. Add in Mcqueen on 350k and ur up to nearly 30% of his cap and top 3 players who have done bugger all.

Compare this to say the Knights whoose top 3 paid players - Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer and how much value the Knights get from them and what Madge has done with the rest of his salary cap is a miracle.

I would extend him out for another year now to end of 2022 at least mayby 2023. Who could we in relaity get who would do a better job ? Its not like Des Hasler, Trent Robinson or Craig Bellamy are knocking on our door and no one else is a better coach. Sharks, Dogs, Dragons would all love to have Madge

Praise the Lord. You get it!

There's a lot of people on here who need to read and understand this, before complaining about Madge.

 

[Roar_Power]

I can confidently say if we don't renew Madge's contract, the Tigers are in for years of further long term pain. He has dealt with a salary cap headache and still $3m worth of duds we can't move on who wouldn't make his ideal 17. Madge has invested in the grassroots, poached some great up & comers, is instilling belief and a culture shock to not only the playing group but stakeholders, management, the company in general. He wants the Tigers to actually believe they can be winners but it's going to take time. I don't see a settled side until 2022 when we have finally been able to move on the deadwood. Extend him for another 3!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

No your not good at maths. NRL squads are 30 players and have salary caps. If you were trung to work out how much were "his squad" you'd need to use it as a % of cap out of top 30.

The issue with the squad is the 3 highest paid players on the roster are Reynolds, Packer and Mbye - about 2.4m right their or 24% of cap in 3 players he didmt sign and who havent fired a shot. Add in Mcqueen on 350k and ur up to nearly 30% of his cap and top 3 players who have done bugger all.

Compare this to say the Knights whoose top 3 paid players - Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer and how much value the Knights get from them and what Madge has done with the rest of his salary cap is a miracle.

I would extend him out for another year now to end of 2022 at least mayby 2023. Who could we in relaity get who would do a better job ? Its not like Des Hasler, Trent Robinson or Craig Bellamy are knocking on our door and no one else is a better coach. Sharks, Dogs, Dragons would all love to have Madge

Praise the Lord. You get it!

There's a lot of people on here who need to read and understand this, before complaining about Madge.

I’m not complaining

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

I think Madge should be extended. He needs time to change the squad properly as well as the mentality of the playing group. He can't exactly come out and say I don't think we'll make the 8 this year. He needs to give us some hope.

He probably doesn’t come out and say it because he probably doesn’t believe it to be true. We’re 5 rounds in to the an abreiviated season and only out of the 8 on P/D. If he truly believed we couldn’t make the 8 from here, why’s he in the job? I guarantee you he would not be looking towards next year, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

As for the squad, he’s in his second year, and I’d say a good 75% of the squad he has either signed or re-signed. That excuse is one you trot out when the coach is battling on with a squad that his successor put together.

No way it’s 75% and at the same time you have to remember we had no salary cap to work with. He’s not brought in many players from outside the club and in some cases has only been able to work with what he’s got. Gotta wait and see who he signs for next year considering we have a decent amount of salary cap

15 out of the 21 in the side named this week were either signed or re-signed by him. I’m not good with maths, but i’d say that come close to 75%. .

No your not good at maths. NRL squads are 30 players and have salary caps. If you were trung to work out how much were "his squad" you'd need to use it as a % of cap out of top 30.

The issue with the squad is the 3 highest paid players on the roster are Reynolds, Packer and Mbye - about 2.4m right their or 24% of cap in 3 players he didmt sign and who havent fired a shot. Add in Mcqueen on 350k and ur up to nearly 30% of his cap and top 3 players who have done bugger all.

Compare this to say the Knights whoose top 3 paid players - Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer and how much value the Knights get from them and what Madge has done with the rest of his salary cap is a miracle.

I would extend him out for another year now to end of 2022 at least mayby 2023. Who could we in relaity get who would do a better job ? Its not like Des Hasler, Trent Robinson or Craig Bellamy are knocking on our door and no one else is a better coach. Sharks, Dogs, Dragons would all love to have Madge

The Sharks are about to poach Paul Green and there’s a good chance Bennett ends back up at the Dragons. Talking about extending him for another 3 years, please...

And no, I’m not bagging him, I’m looking out for the club, to not get themselves in the position the Dragons are in atm

 

[momo_amp_medo]

So we burn down the house before the renovations are complete.
Seems like a good idea?
Let’s all start from scratch. LOL
It’s that the mindset that is the problem with some people on this forum.
What this club needs is to settle down to work hard under a consistent and familiar coaching structure. And not constant chopping and changing of the guard that we have been watching for god knows how long. I pity the players that have to adapt to new set if instructions every time the new coach appears.

 

[Geo]

What's the rush...is Maguire leaving...doesn't appear the type like the previous flog to abandon ship ..if he truly believes what he says can't see that being an issue..he has a contract for next season but looks like the excuses have already laid out for him if the side doesn't perform..all the top sides are covered..if a bottom feeder comes calling he would be in the same boat as here..

Just as chopping and changing coaches is not a good strategy nor is extending Coaches before they have actually earn one...

Only have to look at the Dragons as a prime example..McGregor started coaching them in 2014..he's only still there now after 2 extensions because they don't want to pay him out..

 

[avocadoontoast]

What's the rush...is Maguire leaving...doesn't appear the type like the previous flog to abandon ship ..if he truly believes what he says can't see that being an issue..he has a contract for next season but looks like the excuses have already laid out for him if the side doesn't perform..all the top sides are covered..if a bottom feeder comes calling he would be in the same boat as here..

Just as chopping and changing coaches is not a good strategy nor is extending Coaches before they have actually earn one...

Only have to look at the Dragons as a prime example..McGregor started coaching them in 2014..he's only still there now after 2 extensions because they don't want to pay him out..

100%. Well said.

 

[Snake]

Under no circumstances should Maguire be given an extension until early next season... making the 8 is not the issue with an extension it’s the fact that the team looks like a very poorly coached side Atm!
For me there is way to much talk about what is trying to be done , there will be a large turn over in the roster at seasons end so any talk of an extension should be left until at least round 8 next season .
It is seeing an evolving team culture and a structured brand of play that happens with most other winning teams that certainly is not being presented at present .
Am I sold on Maguire at this stage not enough for an extension ... maybe seeing something different other than 5 up and a kick could be a start!!

To be honest anything you say I just ignore because of your clear bias. You have Hated Madge for a long time and I’m not sure why.

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[supercoach]

The last thing we need is a new coach. Look at Parra, this time last year the coach was under review and people were calling for his head. To rebuild a team and a roster takes time, it’s not done in a year or two. Madge needs his full contract before people start looking at a possible change of direction and even than there has to be a better candidate willing to come on board

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What's the rush...is Maguire leaving...doesn't appear the type like the previous flog to abandon ship ..if he truly believes what he says can't see that being an issue..he has a contract for next season but looks like the excuses have already laid out for him if the side doesn't perform..all the top sides are covered..if a bottom feeder comes calling he would be in the same boat as here..

Just as chopping and changing coaches is not a good strategy nor is extending Coaches before they have actually earn one...

Only have to look at the Dragons as a prime example..McGregor started coaching them in 2014..he's only still there now after 2 extensions because they don't want to pay him out..

Maguire and his team have assembled great young talent. I'm excited as you can feel the change. Time to enjoy what is happening and realise the poor top end recruitment was the work of his predecessors.

 

[JC99]

Yeah I’m with Geo, no need to extend him now. Let’s see how he goes next year. Rebuilding a roster takes time and Madge is slowly getting rid of the old and bringing in the new.

 

[happy_tiger]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

Everyone is blaming the wrong people , Madge didn't change the rules mid season

That is why we will struggle in 2020 and probably 2021 , are line up just doesn't suit the new rule changes

 

[Tim Sheens]

We basically played the dreaded Taylor Ball on the weekend, in another second season of coaching by the incumbent, in potentially our ninth successive year of not playing finals footy, currently sitting ninth once again and some are saying we should just accept that as our fate as we are rebuilding.

If Maguire is half as good as many on here think/thought him to be, then WT should be playing the first week of finals at the bare minimum. He says that he has assembled a capable squad that he believes in, so it is up to him to carry out his remit, with failure not an option in these circumstances.

Definitely no pass mark from my end if we don't make the eight!

I am not sure how to do a poll but would be interested to know who would extend Madge if we don't make the 8 this year? Normally, coaches are extended well before the end of their tenure, so if we don’t extend him coming into his final season does that say something?

Personally, I think he will see his contract out. Not sure about an extension though.

Everyone is blaming the wrong people , Madge didn't change the rules mid season

That is why we will struggle in 2020 and probably 2021 , are line up just doesn't suit the new rule changes

Think the jury is still out on that issue, but we got flogged by the knights under the old ones and only beat the imploding dragons in the other match.