WESTS Tigers Team V Parramatta

[Nelson]

Joel Edwards is dead set plodder.
If he is our back up plan at hooker over the last 6 weeks I fear we are doomed once we get tested by the better sides.

Did he play any dummy half against the Dragons? From where i was it looked like Rankin was the one filling in.

Rankin was there, although it may not have been the plan prior to injuries.

http://www.nrl.com/rankin-no-stranger-to-dummy-half/tabid/10874/newsid/99542/default.aspx

 

[happy_tiger]

Wonder how long until JLJ is considered for the hooker back up role ??

How many weeks has he been back now ??

 

[Club_Sandwich]

I don't think Parra are going to roll over.. We could lose this one. Tired of our dummy half selections (fill ins).. Everyone knows this isn't our strongest team.

You are wrong the bloke who picks it thinks otherwise.He is just too pig headed to admit he is wrong

Yeah we're all wrong.. A hooker playing half the game and then the rest of the team taking turns there because it isn't an important position. And it opens up the bench to fit in a gun player like Edwards - genius!

Well ballin is injured, liddle can't play and Farah ruled himself out last Saturday. His only choice is Cherrington, not sure what's going on with him.

What about Littlejohn? Is he still alive? I think he'd be very decent at hooker

 

[Tigerdave]

Is Rowdy actually going to be playing?

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Joel Edwards is dead set plodder.
If he is our back up plan at hooker over the last 6 weeks I fear we are doomed once we get tested by the better sides.

Hear, hear

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Is Rowdy actually going to be playing?

Yeah no one on the forum has really commented to say yes or no however one of the posts, not sure if Geos or Innsaines said it was bruising and no ligament damage or break

Based on that i'd think he will play but have my reservations the way he limped off on Sunday

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Why do people twist the truth for their own agendas?
JT picked Rankin tonight for this weekends game? He's played most of the year.
JT picked Lovett? He's played most of the year.
Other than Farah's expected non selection again, the only other real surprise was Edwards inclusion. But as has rightly been pointed out, why change a winning team?

Am I missing something? Isn't this nearly the same team that's trotted out most weeks?

I thinks its making people angrier because Rankin was playing at 9 and Edwards's selection didnt make sense

Taylor didnt replace Farah with specialist Hooker, Dene has been there most games
But for some reason (maybe to fool us) he replaced JJ with Edwards who hasnt been effective the last 2 games in FG

Lovett's selection ? i have stopped complaining about him but im guessing whilst people are complaining and venting their frustration they are also disappointed he was getting moved in to the centres..
We can live with him in the 17 off the bench but not in the centres

Its becoming a case of the straw that broke the back, too many poor decisions from Taylor at the one time

We lost 2 forwards on the bench and people are surprised that Taylor did not want to use Edwards at hooker as he had previously planned.

Also Rankin is a natural half. Surely it was a logical to slot him into hooker to give Halatau a break in the circumstances? I thought his service was excellent. Im not sure I like my hooker defending on the wing but given the circumstances of the game I can live with it.

my 2cents worth
Not every player can pass both ways with natural ease and comfort.
Hence we have players on the right and left wings, center etc.
same kind-of applies to halves hence they pick their preferred spots.
Whilst Rankin may be better suited in the halves role like he prefers i doubt he will be as good hooker as the first line hookers who have natural ability to pass either way, take runs and make those decisions on the fly to pass or run.
To provide an example, ET has had far too many forward passes from dummy half
Peter Wallace converted from Halves to Hooking and it took him 2 seasons to get it right, he threw a fair few forward passes too.

Rankin fits into Taylors plans of just getting the ball from dummy half and getting it to the next person but you have to question the value in this.
Where is the threat from dummy half if all you are doing is throwing the ball to the next person..

Anywho, i'm not a coach in any grade, just a real frustrated supporter of the club at the moment

 

[supercoach]

Joel Edwards is dead set plodder.
If he is our back up plan at hooker over the last 6 weeks I fear we are doomed once we get tested by the better sides.

That is the one thing that throws Taylors new vision out the window. We have Edwards basically replacing Farah yet he did not play D/H and we got a winger to play this role, resulting in a backline shuffle, that exposed us in attack and defence.

If they decided on MCK,Littlejohn or Siro you might think Taylor has a vision and is telling the truth about cohesion as they at least can fill a gap and offer choices, but Edwards makes Bukes look like SBW

 

[Needaname]

Why do people twist the truth for their own agendas?
JT picked Rankin tonight for this weekends game? He's played most of the year.
JT picked Lovett? He's played most of the year.
Other than Farah's expected non selection again, the only other real surprise was Edwards inclusion. But as has rightly been pointed out, why change a winning team?

Am I missing something? Isn't this nearly the same team that's trotted out most weeks?

I thinks its making people angrier because Rankin was playing at 9 and Edwards's selection didnt make sense

Taylor didnt replace Farah with specialist Hooker, Dene has been there most games
But for some reason (maybe to fool us) he replaced JJ with Edwards who hasnt been effective the last 2 games in FG

Lovett's selection ? i have stopped complaining about him but im guessing whilst people are complaining and venting their frustration they are also disappointed he was getting moved in to the centres..
We can live with him in the 17 off the bench but not in the centres

Its becoming a case of the straw that broke the back, too many poor decisions from Taylor at the one time

We lost 2 forwards on the bench and people are surprised that Taylor did not want to use Edwards at hooker as he had previously planned.

Also Rankin is a natural half. Surely it was a logical to slot him into hooker to give Halatau a break in the circumstances? I thought his service was excellent. Im not sure I like my hooker defending on the wing but given the circumstances of the game I can live with it.

my 2cents worth
Not every player can pass both ways with natural ease and comfort.
Hence we have players on the right and left wings, center etc.
same kind-of applies to halves hence they pick their preferred spots.
Whilst Rankin may be better suited in the halves role like he prefers i doubt he will be as good hooker as the first line hookers who have natural ability to pass either way, take runs and make those decisions on the fly to pass or run.
To provide an example, ET has had far too many forward passes from dummy half
Peter Wallace converted from Halves to Hooking and it took him 2 seasons to get it right, he threw a fair few forward passes too.

Rankin fits into Taylors plans of just getting the ball from dummy half and getting it to the next person but you have to question the value in this.
Where is the threat from dummy half if all you are doing is throwing the ball to the next person..

Anywho, i'm not a coach in any grade, just a real frustrated supporter of the club at the moment

Umm,
I'm glad your a focused supporter of our club but your obviously not much of an observer of rugby league with your above statement.
Peter Wallace played hooker for the first time this year in like round 4 or 5 when Segy got injured.
And ET had been used at hooker before Taylor putting him there this year.
He played in the Grand final against Manly off the bench at hooker and for New Zealand in that role.
But you are right about players and having their prefered sides.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

I thinks its making people angrier because Rankin was playing at 9 and Edwards's selection didnt make sense

Taylor didnt replace Farah with specialist Hooker, Dene has been there most games
But for some reason (maybe to fool us) he replaced JJ with Edwards who hasnt been effective the last 2 games in FG

Lovett's selection ? i have stopped complaining about him but im guessing whilst people are complaining and venting their frustration they are also disappointed he was getting moved in to the centres..
We can live with him in the 17 off the bench but not in the centres

Its becoming a case of the straw that broke the back, too many poor decisions from Taylor at the one time

We lost 2 forwards on the bench and people are surprised that Taylor did not want to use Edwards at hooker as he had previously planned.

Also Rankin is a natural half. Surely it was a logical to slot him into hooker to give Halatau a break in the circumstances? I thought his service was excellent. Im not sure I like my hooker defending on the wing but given the circumstances of the game I can live with it.

my 2cents worth
Not every player can pass both ways with natural ease and comfort.
Hence we have players on the right and left wings, center etc.
same kind-of applies to halves hence they pick their preferred spots.
Whilst Rankin may be better suited in the halves role like he prefers i doubt he will be as good hooker as the first line hookers who have natural ability to pass either way, take runs and make those decisions on the fly to pass or run.
To provide an example, ET has had far too many forward passes from dummy half
Peter Wallace converted from Halves to Hooking and it took him 2 seasons to get it right, he threw a fair few forward passes too.

Rankin fits into Taylors plans of just getting the ball from dummy half and getting it to the next person but you have to question the value in this.
Where is the threat from dummy half if all you are doing is throwing the ball to the next person..

Anywho, i'm not a coach in any grade, just a real frustrated supporter of the club at the moment

Umm,
I'm glad your a focused supporter of our club but your obviously not much of an observer of rugby league with your above statement.
Peter Wallace played hooker for the first time this year in like round 4 or 5 when Segy got injured.
And ET had been used at hooker before Taylor putting him there this year.
He played in the Grand final against Manly off the bench at hooker and for New Zealand in that role.
But you are right about players and having their prefered sides.

Wallace is a full time hooker now but he has been in and out of the rake position throughout games in the last 2 seasons.
They did a similar rotation as the raiders. My observation comes from those times too.

 

[southerntiger]

We lost 2 forwards on the bench and people are surprised that Taylor did not want to use Edwards at hooker as he had previously planned.

Also Rankin is a natural half. Surely it was a logical to slot him into hooker to give Halatau a break in the circumstances? I thought his service was excellent. Im not sure I like my hooker defending on the wing but given the circumstances of the game I can live with it.

my 2cents worth
Not every player can pass both ways with natural ease and comfort.
Hence we have players on the right and left wings, center etc.
same kind-of applies to halves hence they pick their preferred spots.
Whilst Rankin may be better suited in the halves role like he prefers i doubt he will be as good hooker as the first line hookers who have natural ability to pass either way, take runs and make those decisions on the fly to pass or run.
To provide an example, ET has had far too many forward passes from dummy half
Peter Wallace converted from Halves to Hooking and it took him 2 seasons to get it right, he threw a fair few forward passes too.

Rankin fits into Taylors plans of just getting the ball from dummy half and getting it to the next person but you have to question the value in this.
Where is the threat from dummy half if all you are doing is throwing the ball to the next person..

Anywho, i'm not a coach in any grade, just a real frustrated supporter of the club at the moment

Umm,
I'm glad your a focused supporter of our club but your obviously not much of an observer of rugby league with your above statement.
Peter Wallace played hooker for the first time this year in like round 4 or 5 when Segy got injured.
And ET had been used at hooker before Taylor putting him there this year.
He played in the Grand final against Manly off the bench at hooker and for New Zealand in that role.
But you are right about players and having their prefered sides.

Wallace is a full time hooker now but he has been in and out of the rake position throughout games in the last 2 seasons.
They did a similar rotation as the raiders. My observation comes from those times too.

When did Peter Wallace play for the Raiders?

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

my 2cents worth
Not every player can pass both ways with natural ease and comfort.
Hence we have players on the right and left wings, center etc.
same kind-of applies to halves hence they pick their preferred spots.
Whilst Rankin may be better suited in the halves role like he prefers i doubt he will be as good hooker as the first line hookers who have natural ability to pass either way, take runs and make those decisions on the fly to pass or run.
To provide an example, ET has had far too many forward passes from dummy half
Peter Wallace converted from Halves to Hooking and it took him 2 seasons to get it right, he threw a fair few forward passes too.

Rankin fits into Taylors plans of just getting the ball from dummy half and getting it to the next person but you have to question the value in this.
Where is the threat from dummy half if all you are doing is throwing the ball to the next person..

Anywho, i'm not a coach in any grade, just a real frustrated supporter of the club at the moment

Umm,
I'm glad your a focused supporter of our club but your obviously not much of an observer of rugby league with your above statement.
Peter Wallace played hooker for the first time this year in like round 4 or 5 when Segy got injured.
And ET had been used at hooker before Taylor putting him there this year.
He played in the Grand final against Manly off the bench at hooker and for New Zealand in that role.
But you are right about players and having their prefered sides.

Wallace is a full time hooker now but he has been in and out of the rake position throughout games in the last 2 seasons.
They did a similar rotation as the raiders. My observation comes from those times too.

When did Peter Wallace play for the Raiders?

HAHAHA no my man
The reference is Raiders have a 2 man hooker rotation

Patnhers did a similar thing
They have Seggy, Peachey and Wallace rotate through and share hooking

 

[cqtiger]

Is Rowdy actually going to be playing?

Rowdy's in some training photos on twitter so I think he's playing.
There was strapping on a lower leg

 

[marzie]

Is Rowdy actually going to be playing?

Fox Sports have reported that Grant and Lawrence aren't in doubt to play

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Is Rowdy actually going to be playing?

Fox Sports have reported that Grant and Lawrence aren't in doubt to play

Grant supposedly walked out of the first aide room and Rowdy didn't have any ice or strapping on his ankle in a pic i saw of him in the sheds after full time.

 

[Tigerdave]

cool, hopefully that remains the case then for Saturday

 

[Winnipeg]

If Rankin is going to play hooker at any stage then for the love of God can we have Chee Kam on the bench to cover centre?

Lovett already bombed one try against the Dragons by not passing to his winger

 

[boonboon]

If Rankin is going to play hooker at any stage then for the love of God can we have Chee Kam on the bench to cover centre?

Lovett already bombed one try against the Dragons by not passing to his winger

I think you can forgive the side last week you can't predict that you will loose 2 main forwards and hence 80 minutes of playing time (Grant 40 and Lawrence 2nd 40) unexpectedly so I would imagine we will see a different rotation this week.

In reality whatever you think of the situation that we didn't have Farah last week because we had an extra forward in Edwards on the bench to cover the front and back row

Assuming no injuries this week id expect we will see Edwards play 20 mins of hooker

 

[Winnipeg]

Has Edwards ever played hooker tho?

And you could argue we're strengthening our flank taking Rankin out for Chee Kam

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Update on Lawrence Grant and Farah
http://www.nrl.com/farah-sits-out-but-lawrence-and-grant-train/tabid/10874/newsid/99628/default.aspx

_Wests Tigers hooker Robbie Farah was a noticeable absentee from training on Wednesday morning but two other players under a cloud, Chris Lawrence and Tim Grant, ran freely with the main squad in a boost to their chances of backing up to face the Eels on Saturday._

_However back-rower Chris Lawrence, who missed the second half of the Dragons win with a lower leg injury and left the ground in a moon boot, ran freely.\
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So too did Tim Grant, who suffered a nasty concussion after wearing a shoulder from Dragons prop Leeson Ah Mau barely a minute after entering the fray last weekend and needed to be stretchered from the field._
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And this is what Moses said

Moses didn't complete Wednesday's session but he said it was a workload issue rather than an injury issue.

"Everything's fine, we're just cutting down my K's (kilometres), I ran a bit too much in the game so just a bit more precautionary," Moses said.