Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15

@Flash089 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208059) said:
People are being hyper critical of seyfarth. He should be judged first on his D and whether he can bend or break the line. It's early days. I think Madge's rotation strategy is smart. Without Canterbury Cup he has to blood as many of the squad as possible. Otherwise how do we identify the not quite/ never gonna make its?

I might be wrong, but I believe Seyfarth will be a diamond. That young prop from the Eels is around the same age?
 
expect changes, bench has changed almost every team list so i wouldnt be too worried.

Im sure on Blore. Madge knows what hes doing, he played 2 games and is now missing.
There was no horrible performances so it must be something off field
 
It is not so much Seyfarth I am disappointed about...it is the balance.


Huth
Seyfarth
ET
McIntyre

That is potentially 4 guys who will play this week who will not bend the line....3 of them may well run for under 50. Add in Packer normally 50-80 and that is a badly balanced set of forwards.

You can't win with that many not making yards or denting the line.
 
@Moh said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208102) said:
@Fraze23 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208070) said:
Blore is only 19 and coming off a major knee injury. I'm glad we're not throwing him in the deep end as it could be detrimental to his development. He's had a taste of first grade and will be ready to be a permanent fixture next year. Give him time.

Sorry but playing 15-20 off the bench isn't throwing anyone in the deep end, with no reserve grade it is even more important we give him as much time as possible. Of course if his body isn't up to it that's understandable, but doesn't seem to be the case.

He has shown enough to be able to handle that amount of game time.

Fair points and you may well be right. But given that Madge has bought plenty of young kids through to first grade I'm willing to trust his judgement on Blore. Other than what I've suggested already, I'd think that Madge would have his reasons for not playing him.
 
@OzLuke said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208106) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208101) said:
@OzLuke said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1207980) said:
gotta shut down their backs....

Gotta shut down their forwards first.
Hargreaves and Taki will destroy our powder puffs

what would hargreaves do if he knew one of our forwards had a calf injury that he was just coming back from??? He would work it and niggle it....I suggest our forwards start doing the same.
As much as I like a good, clean brand of football, it's about time we started getting some animal into our pack.

Agreed. Where has good clean footy ever got anyone. Hasn’t worked since 05.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208077) said:
he shoukd learn to say nothing and dont support any of the attackers to start with pull your head in. i dont think Madge or Lee would be too impressed hence attitude problem

Whats the chairman got to do with it.
 
Last week Chris was named in the 17, but knew early on that he wasn't playing.

I wouldn't read too much into bench.
 
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.
 
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208192) said:
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.

It would have been good to see Blore get in the face of Hargreaves just like Hetherington did .
 
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208198) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208192) said:
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.

It would have been good to see Blore get in the face of Hargreaves just like Hetherington did .

Yep, I don't think the young bloke would take a step back. The Roosters pack will roll through us unless Twal and Mikaele are added. A shame Blore wasn't included but I guess Madge has his reasons.
 
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208192) said:
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.

He doesn’t seem mobile enough to play in the back row for me. Doesn’t hit the ball at pace and no footwork. If he played there he would pretty much just carry the ball as a prop.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208206) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208192) said:
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.

He doesn’t seem mobile enough to play in the back row for me. Doesn’t hit the ball at pace and no footwork. If he played there he would pretty much just carry the ball as a prop.

Maybe, I've seen him move around behind the ruck and he seems to move ok to me but it would be better to see him at a live game to get an accurate idea.
 
@Flash089 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208059) said:
People are being hyper critical of seyfarth. He should be judged first on his D and whether he can bend or break the line.

In that case he's screwed as he's weak in all three.
 
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208209) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208206) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208192) said:
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.

He doesn’t seem mobile enough to play in the back row for me. Doesn’t hit the ball at pace and no footwork. If he played there he would pretty much just carry the ball as a prop.

Maybe, I've seen him move around behind the ruck and he seems to move ok to me but it would be better to see him at a live game to get an accurate idea.

Again wish there was reserve grade. Why did it even get stopped, to save money? There’s no more of a safety risk surely just play them before first grade.
 
Well again no changes in the half's combination, Benji defense a worry but suppose playing against 2 inexperienced half's combination, we should dominate these guys????

Forwards there's are better, assume some changes on bench prior to kickoff to bring in some more size, to even things up.

Rest of the backs Morris brothers and Tedesco strong combination both defense and attack will need to match them and play smarter.

Big ask this game however playing at our home ground and know we have to keep winning to play finals although most supporters don't give them a big chance including myself the run into the finals is horrific and we are already 2 games adrift of the eight. Lets put in a solid performance and be there at the back end again to win.
 
Forwards Alex Twal (sternum) and Thomas Mikaele (knee) trained with the main squad on Wednesday as they push to be late inclusions for Saturday's clash with the Roosters. - NRL.com
 
I'd like Huth given a chance of goal kicker. He has the grace of a ballerina and like Mark Riddell the crowd will absolutely lose it when he bangs them sweet.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208212) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208209) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208206) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208192) said:
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Roosters Rd 15](/post/1208114) said:
Seyfarth reminds me of Chris Paterson. Gets smashed every run, I don’t see that changing with age or experience.

My issue with Seyfarth, or rather Madge is that he is being played in the middle, and I don't think he has the type of game to flourish there. He's tall, rangy and while he's not a midget, he doesn't cart the ball up like a typical front rower, his build right now is more of a backrower, he does cover ground reasonably well and I think he'd be a lot more effective on an edge. If he does stay on, I think Madge needs to re-think playing him in the middle and consider him as a backrower as depth if Lucy or Garner or Blore are injured.

I think Blore has enough size and strength to play either in the middle or the edge, but an offseason will help him massively as he won't be restricted by his knee.

Middle forwards for me include Packer, Aloiai, Twal, Eiso, Stefano, Musgrove and potentially Blore. Edge forwards are Lucy, Garner, MCK, Seyfarth and McIntyre. Another edge forward wouldn't go astray.

He doesn’t seem mobile enough to play in the back row for me. Doesn’t hit the ball at pace and no footwork. If he played there he would pretty much just carry the ball as a prop.

Maybe, I've seen him move around behind the ruck and he seems to move ok to me but it would be better to see him at a live game to get an accurate idea.

Again wish there was reserve grade. Why did it even get stopped, to save money? There’s no more of a safety risk surely just play them before first grade.

Yeah. It makes a huge difference not having a reserve grade. I reckon they probably didn't want to expand the "bubble" to include all those extra people. Hard enough to keep the first grade players and staff in it.
We'd all be ropeable if the whole competition got brought undone by breaches in reserve grade.
 
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