Wests Tigers Team v St George

[Tim Sheens]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

 

[Tim Sheens]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Edit; One thing I didn't notice before was Musgrove's right arm hanging a bit earlier in the play, so he may have had a shoulder injury that somewhat affected his attempt as well.

 

[tony soprano]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

 

[the_third]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?


Did you watch the the next 51 minutes.

lol off course - every minute. what's your comment about Simpkin? I fail to see your point about Simpkin or am I missing something?

 

[the_third]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?

I thought it was in the 31st minute, but close enough.

haha fair play - what's a couple of mins in that debacle. 31st min was the second try, I haven subjected myself to watch the replay this week so just responding to a post and NRL.com

 

[Geo]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

I don't agree, Schuster runs across-field away from Doueihi, he hasn't even engaged the line yet when he's straightening up into Musgrove.

Also by this stage, Schuster has run around Marty Taupau and Doueihi collides with Taupau.


Doueihi should of fell over like dem sokka players..

 

[TrueTiger]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

And yet the forum praised him and said he was what was needed in the 5/8 position this year...

 

[theraptor456]

The thing that I don't get about the truckloads of Simpkin praise is that it's based on no data to judge him on.

He's had a handfull of good but not great Reserve grade games (I've actually watched every game) followed by an average performance and a poor performance in the NRL.

So what exactly are the gushing over the top assessments of his ability based on?

It can't be his second tier performances because any objective observer would say that Liddle's domination of that competition is undeniable, yet his performances have been dismissed.

The only possible answer is that nobody really knows at this stage what the future holds for him.

Completely agree. He appears slow like the rest of our team, bordering plodderish like his mate Talau

 

[JC99]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

And yet the forum praised him and said he was what was needed in the 5/8 position this year...

He's been one of our best all season and we should give up on him because of a game we got flogged by 40

I know people are frustrated but some of these knee jerk over the top reactions are crazy. Doueihi has his issues but he's one of the last to be worrying about.

 

[Tim Sheens]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?

I thought it was in the 31st minute, but close enough.

haha fair play - what's a couple of mins in that debacle. 31st min was the second try, I haven subjected myself to watch the replay this week so just responding to a post and NRL.com

Yeah, just watched that period again and it only looked worse second time around, with me thinking that maybe @cochise was right all along.

 

[hobbo1]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?

I thought it was in the 31st minute, but close enough.

haha fair play - what's a couple of mins in that debacle. 31st min was the second try, I haven subjected myself to watch the replay this week so just responding to a post and NRL.com

Yeah, just watched that period again and it only looked worse second time around, with me thinking that maybe @cochise was right all along.

you blokes are suckers for punishment..watching it once was enough ?

 

[the_third]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?

I thought it was in the 31st minute, but close enough.

haha fair play - what's a couple of mins in that debacle. 31st min was the second try, I haven subjected myself to watch the replay this week so just responding to a post and NRL.com

Yeah, just watched that period again and it only looked worse second time around, with me thinking that maybe @cochise was right all along.

Mate you are a glutton for punishment. haha

(and what were you thinking...)

 

[cochise]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?

I thought it was in the 31st minute, but close enough.

haha fair play - what's a couple of mins in that debacle. 31st min was the second try, I haven subjected myself to watch the replay this week so just responding to a post and NRL.com

Yeah, just watched that period again and it only looked worse second time around, with me thinking that maybe @cochise was right all along.

I'm always right lol what was I right about this time?

 

[tony soprano]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

And yet the forum praised him and said he was what was needed in the 5/8 position this year...

He's been one of our best all season and we should give up on him because of a game we got flogged by 40

I know people are frustrated but some of these knee jerk over the top reactions are crazy. Doueihi has his issues but he's one of the last to be worrying about.

He has a proven track record of not defending and we are 1 in 6. Why persist. Benji should never have been dropped for him just because of his relationship with the coach. I don’t mind madge but it’s been another bad decision benji a better leader too

 

[hobbo1]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.


because he made about 51 tackles and had the big boppers running at him all day.


THIS was early in proceedings

THEY scored in the 29th minute or was I watching a different game?

I thought it was in the 31st minute, but close enough.

haha fair play - what's a couple of mins in that debacle. 31st min was the second try, I haven subjected myself to watch the replay this week so just responding to a post and NRL.com

Yeah, just watched that period again and it only looked worse second time around, with me thinking that maybe @cochise was right all along.

I'm always right lol what was I right about this time?

The beard of knowledge ?

 

[TrueTiger]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

And yet the forum praised him and said he was what was needed in the 5/8 position this year...

He's been one of our best all season and we should give up on him because of a game we got flogged by 40

I know people are frustrated but some of these knee jerk over the top reactions are crazy. Doueihi has his issues but he's one of the last to be worrying about.

He has a proven track record of not defending and we are 1 in 6. Why persist. Benji should never have been dropped for him just because of his relationship with the coach. I don’t mind madge but it’s been another bad decision benji a better leader too

Benji was about himself and self preservation...we are far better off with a young AD who shows promise and leadership...Benji is only doing well in a star studed team playing a completely different role to what he was here ....his defense is atrocious but has the players around him to cover his arse and the coach as well...

 

[JC99]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

And yet the forum praised him and said he was what was needed in the 5/8 position this year...

He's been one of our best all season and we should give up on him because of a game we got flogged by 40

I know people are frustrated but some of these knee jerk over the top reactions are crazy. Doueihi has his issues but he's one of the last to be worrying about.

He has a proven track record of not defending and we are 1 in 6. Why persist. Benji should never have been dropped for him just because of his relationship with the coach. I don’t mind madge but it’s been another bad decision benji a better leader too

He's barely defended in the front line in the NRL, give him time. He's got a proven track record of being our best playmaker this year too... he's had more good games than bad. Can't say that for majority of our team!

Benjis defence is worse and he would block pathways for younger players. Him being here would make no sense at all, be rational.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

The team shows how slim pickings we have in the backs.

Tawl at prop big yes - should always play there he has never been a lock.

Joe isn’t a backrower, maybe a roving lock role could suit. He is actually one player trying week in week out.

Seyfarth on the bench is stupid. He is not an impact or hold player. Swap him for Amone and Liddle for Mbye and will be happy with the bench.

we can't carry Liddle and Simpkin in 17
hopefully next year Hastings or Brooks takes the Mmbye role

I think adding Liddle to the team would really lift our attacking options. Thought he only needed a bit of a spell tbh but in a shared role he's always been great due to his agility. It's also great to use as an additional playmaker with some experience.

if we dont move Brooks or Mmbye on next year with Hastings joining us I don't see a dual hooker role working, simpkin plays 80 mins.
if we dont have Brooks or mmbye then maybe Liddle on the bench could work as Hastings would then play 7. if Hastings plays 13 then we need a backrower on the bench that can cover centre if needed

I understand but with no disrespect you're talking about next year or something that doesn't benefit the team's productivity for this year.
You've mentioned Brooks and for the same reasons you've stated, this is why having someone like Jacob in the team increases our attacking options and somewhat relieves some of the pressure for our halves. He's already played alongside Brooks and has that combination in place and I don't think it sets Simpkin's development back but rather will only assist it.
Liddle is very sharp and it could be a real asset for us during the middle part of the game.

I see simpkin is about to be extended to 2024 I don't think Liddle will be here next year.
if Lidde does move on then no point playing him this season is just about done anyway, may aswell play Mmbye and hope someone buys him

I think we still need Liddle but he is within his rights to leve if he sees fit
Hopefully he repays us a year or two
If he ends up going to the dogs, it is another piece to their puzzle
If they land say a Mikaele and Finucane then they start to look dangerous
Especially if the Naden Rumours are true

do you think finucane will leave storm isn't he co captain, if he does want to come to Sydney then we should throw plenty at him

That's the million $ ?
If storm cand find a replacement then I think he will leave
He is off contract
If Melbourne wanted to keep him he would have re signed
I'm not sure why he hasn't
Could it be cap trouble ?
Finucane is a great player
Better than any of our forwards
A good tuff solid hard worker and he is consistent
Signing proven players from the Melbourne system would be a smart thing to do

Finucane is a leader you can build a whole club around. Whatever he is being offered in the market as $200k on top, give him the captaincy and a 5 year deal if need be.

 

[tony soprano]

How come nobody mentions Simpkin let the first try in and missed a number of tackles w hile Liddle had a good game in reggies .Is Simkin the latest favourite.

Simpkin didn't miss the first tackle try, Musgrove did (Twal was secondary). You are thinking of the 3rd try, but even that one I wouldn't entirely pin on Simpkin, because Turbo runs away from him and Mbye fails to cover to his outside as Turbo veers away from Simpkin.

Liddle is a decent player but he wasn't setting the world on fire his first 5 matches 2021, and Simpkin was good against Souths.

Thought Doueihi was the number one offender for the first try. Utterly lazy, as was Musgrove for the next try.

Doueihi definitely was at fault for the Foran try

I saw it that way live and have just checked again to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Adam was that lazy that even Talau gave him a gobful for his lack of effort.

Shocking mate looks like the coach is picking players that back him first.

Doueihi quite simply is just not good enough.

And yet the forum praised him and said he was what was needed in the 5/8 position this year...

He's been one of our best all season and we should give up on him because of a game we got flogged by 40

I know people are frustrated but some of these knee jerk over the top reactions are crazy. Doueihi has his issues but he's one of the last to be worrying about.

He has a proven track record of not defending and we are 1 in 6. Why persist. Benji should never have been dropped for him just because of his relationship with the coach. I don’t mind madge but it’s been another bad decision benji a better leader too

Benji was about himself and self preservation...we are far better off with a young AD who shows promise and leadership...Benji is only doing well in a star studed team playing a completely different role to what he was here ....his defense is atrocious but has the players around him to cover his arse and the coach as well...

It’s about getting wins on the board. Both have defensive issues in this team but benji has more confidence to be a leader in this team doueihi quite as a mouse and wants to cry most of the time.

Forget benji then and bring in madden. Madge team selections will be the end of him. I’ve said this for a while. Can’t be too loyal in his job.

 

[tony soprano]

The team shows how slim pickings we have in the backs.

Tawl at prop big yes - should always play there he has never been a lock.

Joe isn’t a backrower, maybe a roving lock role could suit. He is actually one player trying week in week out.

Seyfarth on the bench is stupid. He is not an impact or hold player. Swap him for Amone and Liddle for Mbye and will be happy with the bench.

we can't carry Liddle and Simpkin in 17
hopefully next year Hastings or Brooks takes the Mmbye role

I think adding Liddle to the team would really lift our attacking options. Thought he only needed a bit of a spell tbh but in a shared role he's always been great due to his agility. It's also great to use as an additional playmaker with some experience.

if we dont move Brooks or Mmbye on next year with Hastings joining us I don't see a dual hooker role working, simpkin plays 80 mins.
if we dont have Brooks or mmbye then maybe Liddle on the bench could work as Hastings would then play 7. if Hastings plays 13 then we need a backrower on the bench that can cover centre if needed

I understand but with no disrespect you're talking about next year or something that doesn't benefit the team's productivity for this year.
You've mentioned Brooks and for the same reasons you've stated, this is why having someone like Jacob in the team increases our attacking options and somewhat relieves some of the pressure for our halves. He's already played alongside Brooks and has that combination in place and I don't think it sets Simpkin's development back but rather will only assist it.
Liddle is very sharp and it could be a real asset for us during the middle part of the game.

I see simpkin is about to be extended to 2024 I don't think Liddle will be here next year.
if Lidde does move on then no point playing him this season is just about done anyway, may aswell play Mmbye and hope someone buys him

I think we still need Liddle but he is within his rights to leve if he sees fit
Hopefully he repays us a year or two
If he ends up going to the dogs, it is another piece to their puzzle
If they land say a Mikaele and Finucane then they start to look dangerous
Especially if the Naden Rumours are true

do you think finucane will leave storm isn't he co captain, if he does want to come to Sydney then we should throw plenty at him

That's the million $ ?
If storm cand find a replacement then I think he will leave
He is off contract
If Melbourne wanted to keep him he would have re signed
I'm not sure why he hasn't
Could it be cap trouble ?
Finucane is a great player
Better than any of our forwards
A good tuff solid hard worker and he is consistent
Signing proven players from the Melbourne system would be a smart thing to do

Finucane is a leader you can build a whole club around. Whatever he is being offered in the market as $200k on top, give him the captaincy and a 5 year deal if need be.

Agree, but we all know Melbourne don’t loose players they want.