OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms

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I think what’s really become clear to me in recent days, despite what looks like the vast majority support for the Wests Tigers Unite petition, is that there are still a collection of Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers fans who have not fully embraced the Wests Tigers.

When push comes to shove the old allegiances are there, just under the surface. I don’t knock anyone for loyalty, but it would be great if you could recognise the enormous value of our Wests Tigers.

For 25 years we have been bashed pillar to post, we’ve been flogged and laughed at, lost once in a generation players, we’ve been mocked and humiliated. There’s also been some amazing highs as well. Like in 2005 when we stood together as one in that finals campaign.

Wests Tigers needs us to get on one page. It needs to be just as loved, embraced and valued as the two amazing foundation clubs were. But primarily Wests Tigers needs to be our number 1, 2 and 3 priority.

Why? Because Wests Tigers is something special. It’s that little boy that’s going to go to a game with his dad this year and fall in love with the club (just as I did with the Tigers in the 1980s). Wests Tigers is about today and tomorrow. Respecting and remembering the past, but not being beholden to it.

That is why Wests Tigers Unite has come into being. To protect and help move something bigger than all of us into a place it deserves - the top.

I’m sorry if our action has caused distress or hurt, but fighting for Wests Tigers is something myself and my colleagues will not stop doing.

I hope you can join us in giving Wests Tigers a chance.
 
What I see so far is all of the Balmain side , the Magpies Side and the board of HBG have said crickets so far , this petition has got the media interested and there is plenty of stories flying around
Balmain in Secret talks with NZ Kea .
HBG board turning on others to oust them.
Burgess supposed to of said we’re bringing back the Magpies .
Romero doing everything to stop the placement of the review .
Romero makes Barry F apply for his job again .
Wests fraction want Magpies back , etc etc , but , NOT one word or statement from anyone to deny any of this Above , seems strange if it’s all bullshit come out and say it and also get on screen or make a statement that all the review previously done will be completed by ( date , Julie Romero where are you , Dennis Burgess where are you , Danny Stapleton where are you ,
 
426Tlgerland said:
What I see so far is all of the Balmain side , the Magpies Side and the board of HBG have said crickets so far , this petition has got the media interested and there is plenty of stories flying around
Balmain in Secret talks with NZ Kea .
HBG board turning on others to oust them.
Burgess supposed to of said we’re bringing back the Magpies .
Romero doing everything to stop the placement of the review .
Romero makes Barry F apply for his job again .
Wests fraction want Magpies back , etc etc , but , NOT one word or statement from anyone to deny any of this Above , seems strange if it’s all bullshit come out and say it and also get on screen or make a statement that all the review previously done will be completed by ( date , Julie Romero where are you , Dennis Burgess where are you , Danny Stapleton where are you ,
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Lol. 'Secret talks.
 
Joel Helmes said:
I think what’s really become clear to me in recent days, despite what looks like the vast majority support for the Wests Tigers Unite petition, is that there are still a collection of Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers fans who have not fully embraced the Wests Tigers.

When push comes to shove the old allegiances are there, just under the surface. I don’t knock anyone for loyalty, but it would be great if you could recognise the enormous value of our Wests Tigers.

For 25 years we have been bashed pillar to post, we’ve been flogged and laughed at, lost once in a generation players, we’ve been mocked and humiliated. There’s also been some amazing highs as well. Like in 2005 when we stood together as one in that finals campaign.

Wests Tigers needs us to get on one page. It needs to be just as loved, embraced and valued as the two amazing foundation clubs were. But primarily Wests Tigers needs to be our number 1, 2 and 3 priority.

Why? Because Wests Tigers is something special. It’s that little boy that’s going to go to a game with his dad this year and fall in love with the club (just as I did with the Tigers in the 1980s). Wests Tigers is about today and tomorrow. Respecting and remembering the past, but not being beholden to it.

That is why Wests Tigers Unite has come into being. To protect and help move something bigger than all of us into a place it deserves - the top.

I’m sorry if our action has caused distress or hurt, but fighting for Wests Tigers is something myself and my colleagues will not stop doing.

I hope you can join us in giving Wests Tigers a chance.
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Stuff all the old dinosaurs who want wests or Balmain back

I'm 52 and followed Balmain up until the merger and was even a member and voted for the merger

I was at Balmain last 2 grand finals

I am dead set against any changes

I don't want to go through anymore shit with this club again

We finally attract some big names and get headed in the right direction and the biggest assholes in the game try and destroy us

Shame on those self centred pricks
 
Joel Helmes said:
I think what’s really become clear to me in recent days, despite what looks like the vast majority support for the Wests Tigers Unite petition, is that there are still a collection of Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers fans who have not fully embraced the Wests Tigers.

When push comes to shove the old allegiances are there, just under the surface. I don’t knock anyone for loyalty, but it would be great if you could recognise the enormous value of our Wests Tigers.

For 25 years we have been bashed pillar to post, we’ve been flogged and laughed at, lost once in a generation players, we’ve been mocked and humiliated. There’s also been some amazing highs as well. Like in 2005 when we stood together as one in that finals campaign.

Wests Tigers needs us to get on one page. It needs to be just as loved, embraced and valued as the two amazing foundation clubs were. But primarily Wests Tigers needs to be our number 1, 2 and 3 priority.

Why? Because Wests Tigers is something special. It’s that little boy that’s going to go to a game with his dad this year and fall in love with the club (just as I did with the Tigers in the 1980s). Wests Tigers is about today and tomorrow. Respecting and remembering the past, but not being beholden to it.

That is why Wests Tigers Unite has come into being. To protect and help move something bigger than all of us into a place it deserves - the top.

I’m sorry if our action has caused distress or hurt, but fighting for Wests Tigers is something myself and my colleagues will not stop doing.

I hope you can join us in giving Wests Tigers a chance.
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Well said. All hands on deck in support of the Wests Tigers going forward..
 
Joel Helmes said:
I think what’s really become clear to me in recent days, despite what looks like the vast majority support for the Wests Tigers Unite petition, is that there are still a collection of Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers fans who have not fully embraced the Wests Tigers.

When push comes to shove the old allegiances are there, just under the surface. I don’t knock anyone for loyalty, but it would be great if you could recognise the enormous value of our Wests Tigers.

For 25 years we have been bashed pillar to post, we’ve been flogged and laughed at, lost once in a generation players, we’ve been mocked and humiliated. There’s also been some amazing highs as well. Like in 2005 when we stood together as one in that finals campaign.

Wests Tigers needs us to get on one page. It needs to be just as loved, embraced and valued as the two amazing foundation clubs were. But primarily Wests Tigers needs to be our number 1, 2 and 3 priority.

Why? Because Wests Tigers is something special. It’s that little boy that’s going to go to a game with his dad this year and fall in love with the club (just as I did with the Tigers in the 1980s). Wests Tigers is about today and tomorrow. Respecting and remembering the past, but not being beholden to it.

That is why Wests Tigers Unite has come into being. To protect and help move something bigger than all of us into a place it deserves - the top.

I’m sorry if our action has caused distress or hurt, but fighting for Wests Tigers is something myself and my colleagues will not stop doing.

I hope you can join us in giving Wests Tigers a chance.
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I respect what you are doing … and certainly hope it succeeds …

I ask the question though … if the team even had modest success … would all this be happening ?

ultimately .., this team has gotta start winning games on the field if it wants to have a future … unless that changes they are on the way out regardless of what happens on the board
 
Tom Shines said:
I respect what you are doing … and certainly hope it succeeds …

I ask the question though … if the team even had modest success … would all this be happening ?

ultimately .., this team has gotta start winning games on the field if it wants to have a future … unless that changes they are on the way out regardless of what happens on the board
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We are primed for success because we have capable people now working in the organisation (they are there now because we had the guts to stand up and be counted in the 2023 review petition), the board structure and governance in the upper hierarchy remains archaic and dysfunctional and that’s why we are fighting again.
 
Joel Helmes said:
I think what’s really become clear to me in recent days, despite what looks like the vast majority support for the Wests Tigers Unite petition, is that there are still a collection of Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers fans who have not fully embraced the Wests Tigers.

When push comes to shove the old allegiances are there, just under the surface. I don’t knock anyone for loyalty, but it would be great if you could recognise the enormous value of our Wests Tigers.

For 25 years we have been bashed pillar to post, we’ve been flogged and laughed at, lost once in a generation players, we’ve been mocked and humiliated. There’s also been some amazing highs as well. Like in 2005 when we stood together as one in that finals campaign.

Wests Tigers needs us to get on one page. It needs to be just as loved, embraced and valued as the two amazing foundation clubs were. But primarily Wests Tigers needs to be our number 1, 2 and 3 priority.

Why? Because Wests Tigers is something special. It’s that little boy that’s going to go to a game with his dad this year and fall in love with the club (just as I did with the Tigers in the 1980s). Wests Tigers is about today and tomorrow. Respecting and remembering the past, but not being beholden to it.

That is why Wests Tigers Unite has come into being. To protect and help move something bigger than all of us into a place it deserves - the top.

I’m sorry if our action has caused distress or hurt, but fighting for Wests Tigers is something myself and my colleagues will not stop doing.

I hope you can join us in giving Wests Tigers a chance.
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What I've realised is that its really problematic to connect and interact with the club as a Wests TIger. So to speak. The way the club is setup is inherently partisan to both sides of the JV. Even if you started watching footy as far back as 2003, or even 2010, there is no real architecture to support and represent fans who say ''I support the Wests Tigers and I don't even know who Ellery Handley or Noel Kelly are.'' My team won a comp in 2005 and the legends are Liam Fulton and Robbie Farah etc. (Most of us here....)

But sadly, we have this really disproportionate situation where old battlers are still fighting for these really abstract and out of date nostalgic notions. Between themselves. That's what the media, (The Roy Masters' of this world) portray as the main contest of the joint venture. Its Balmain Vs Wests. Its a box office concept and a license to print money on a slow rugby league day.

But that needs to be changed from Balmain Vs Wests to something like;

Wests Tigers fans vs Trads. (or something, again, its difficult and problematic to express in way that is more attractive than Balmain VS Wests.) We should have a way of not accepting the premise of that it MUST be a choice between Wests and Balmain. There is a 'Third Way'. Its just there is no format for fans to express that.

For some, when pushed it gets in your head, you think of Victa vs Phillips, you think of the old livery, the 70s, the 80s, the simpler jersey, Tina Turner, the Holden Kingswood or whatever. It's tempting to get swept up in all of that. But the main movers behind all that kind of nostalgia are a bunch of flogs who have never played the game, and have been involved in banal leagues club politics and committee chicanery for 30-40 years. They play a different game and just use old club colours to do so.
 
Joel Helmes said:
We are primed for success because we have capable people now working in the organisation (they are there now because we had the guts to stand up and be counted in the 2023 review petition), the board structure and governance in the upper hierarchy remains archaic and dysfunctional and that’s why we are fighting again.
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I’ll believe it when it happens Joel … there have been several false dawns …

I have followed this game a long time and I can never remember any team having the lack of success this club has had from the steady decline during the Maguire years but especially these past three and a bit with 14 wins out of their last 80..

the team has been a laughing stock on and off the field.
 
Coastie_Tiger said:
The stuff starting to come out in the media albeit through the mole 🙄 initially is a good thing imo.
It directly applies pressure to the HBG and their decision making, the only disadvantage i see at the moment is the fact that its coming out in a pretty dead news cycle.
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people like the mole can pretty much just say anything though … it may not be 100 percent “invented “ … but it certainly can be embellished…

I note the Mole story hasn’t been touched yet by the SMH yet who started this latest news last week …
 
Tom Shines said:
people like the mole can pretty much just say anything though … it may not be 100 percent “invented “ … but it certainly can be embellished…

I note the Mole story hasn’t been touched yet by the SMH yet who started this latest news last week …
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I didn't see anything re SMH but someone posted something about fox picking it up, the mole is hardly a beacon of truth which is why i 🙄 him.
 
Coastie_Tiger said:
I didn't see anything re SMH but someone posted something about fox picking it up, the mole is hardly a beacon of truth which is why i 🙄 him.
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Yeah … Fox picked it up … pretty much just repeated his words …

It worries me a little that the SMH hasn’t touched it yet … I suspect the Mole story doesn’t have much if any substance … but the SMH don’t want to comment on it as they have Chapter 2 of their story coming soon
 
Joel Helmes said:
This morning we sit at just over 670 signatures on our petition for a review into the governance of the Holman Barnes Group (HBG).

Thank you very much to everyone who has supported this important action.

Here are some of the comments left by people signing the petition this morning:

I’m over watching the inept governance of Wests Tigers by this selfish board. - Travis

There appears to be incompetent governance at HBG that directly affects the functioning of the Wests Tigers and the implementation and support of the the review. The club can't reach its potential if undermined by the HBG directors. A review is needed from the top. - Glenn

I cannot believe that board members of the HBG are so self centered that they put their own selfish interests before the Wests Tigers and their fans. All decisions on how the Wests Tigers are run should be based only on how the Wests Tigers can finally provide some success in the NRL. Us long suffering fans have had a gutful. - Michael

I'm sick of the negative impacts the board have on our club. We are finally turning this club around with good recruitment and we need the issues at the board to be sorted once and for all. - Craig

As a long-time Wests Tigers fan I want a united management with the best interests of our team as its focus, not this squabbling mob. - Les

There also seems to be some confusion around the current HBG governance/board makeup, so I thought I would share this info:

There are a maximum of 20 debenture holders at the HBG.

At present, there are 17 active debenture holders.

A debenture costs a token amount of $100.

Debenture positions are for life and become available only if another holder passes away or surrenders their debenture.

There are currently two available debenture positions.

The HBG will call for Expressions of Interest to fill these positions.

The board then votes on debenture nominations.

The board is permanently composed of five debenture holders and two member-elected directors (these directors gain three-year terms).

There are approximately 27,000 members of HBG-controlled clubs.

The debenture holders currently on the HBG board are:
    • Julie Romero
    • Dennis Burgess (HBG appointment to the Wests Tigers board which currently has only four board members)
    • Stephen Montgomery (HBG appointment to the Wests Tigers board which currently has only four board members)
    • Vince Tropiano
    • Dave Gilbert (suspended, pending expulsion)
The member-elected board members are:
    • Rick Wayde (suspended, pending expulsion)
    • Tony Andreacchio (suspended, pending expulsion)
HBG debentures date back to the Western Suburbs Leagues Club formation in 1955.

No other licensed club in NSW (as far as we can find) uses or offers debentures to members.
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So the HBG power base is maintained by keeping out not believers with the
‘Romero supporter Block’.

“The HBG will call for Expressions of Interest to fill these positions.

The board then votes on debenture nominations.”
 
Magpie_Magic said:
I don't like debenture system either...........

However it's been in place for a long time and the group is growing........possibly 100 million plus in assets.

In life and in business I've learnt often when things exist for a long time and they are working (for HBG) it's probably better not to disturb that. It has created stability for the group.

But look thanks for your courteous reply.
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I’m not quite understanding this consist line you push about something being in place for a long time, so why change, it’s working. Do you think it’s possible that something could be working, in spite of obstacles in its way (ie: the debenture system) ?
Or maybe things could be 10, 20, 30 times better if the said obstacle was removed ?
 
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