What your team needs in 2017..WESTS TIGERS

Throw some calves blood in with CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 as well as a second contract cabinet and we are sweet…within 2 years we will go back to back..
 
@Flippedy said:
What this team really needs is someone (a sports psychologist? a shrink? a navy seal commander? a drill sargeant?) to get inside the players' heads, both individually and collectively, and eliminate once and for all the lazy, que sera sera attitude that has been holding this club back for so long.

The capitulation that occurred in round 26 this season, when they had everything to play for, was unforgivable really and this wasn't the first time a Wests Tigers team has looked so disinterested and performed so badly when everything is on the line. In fact, it's been a common theme around this club since they won the Premiership back in 2005!

The players are always talking a lot about the great atmosphere at the club, how they're all mates and love playing together and for one another etc blah blah, but talk is cheap - that camaraderie and willingness to go the extra mile for each other has rarely been shown on the field where it really counts. In just about every season you can count on one hand the number of times the team has gelled as a unit and gutsed out a win for each other and this season I can only really recall 2 times that they played like that - the 1 point win over the Broncos at Suncorp and the round 22 win over the Cowboys at Leichhardt. Other than those 2 games it was the same inconsistent and often lacklustre garbage that has been served up year in, year out.

Perhaps apart from the addition of a big centre and an impacting second rower, I think we have enough footballing talent in the team to go all the way, but we just do not cut it mentally and, until we do, we will never ever be in the mix. I don't know what is it, but like many of its supporters, this club and the subsequent teams mentally still seem to be living off the 1 Premiership win they achieved 11 years ago! And just about every player we have bought, over the years since, has fallen victim to the lackadaisical culture that has permeated this club.

Until we change the culture and the mental attitudes of the players & staff, no one we buy will make any real difference to our performances on the field, imo. So please WT, can you just get someone to step in and address this important area, otherwise I'm afraid it will just be Groundhog day again next season and the next, and the next….
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Agree if we don't have a mentality that says Leichhardt and Campbell town are our fortresses than we are a long ways off being a contender. Just once I would like to see the coach and captain sit in the after match press conference and say we played at 80% and that is why we got beaten by 50!
 
@Flippedy said:
What this team really needs is someone (a sports psychologist? a shrink? a navy seal commander? a drill sargeant?) to get inside the players' heads, both individually and collectively, and eliminate once and for all the lazy, que sera sera attitude that has been holding this club back for so long.

The capitulation that occurred in round 26 this season, when they had everything to play for, was unforgivable really and this wasn't the first time a Wests Tigers team has looked so disinterested and performed so badly when everything is on the line. In fact, it's been a common theme around this club since they won the Premiership back in 2005!

The players are always talking a lot about the great atmosphere at the club, how they're all mates and love playing together and for one another etc blah blah, but talk is cheap - that camaraderie and willingness to go the extra mile for each other has rarely been shown on the field where it really counts. In just about every season you can count on one hand the number of times the team has gelled as a unit and gutsed out a win for each other and this season I can only really recall 2 times that they played like that - the 1 point win over the Broncos at Suncorp and the round 22 win over the Cowboys at Leichhardt. Other than those 2 games it was the same inconsistent and often lacklustre garbage that has been served up year in, year out.

Perhaps apart from the addition of a big centre and an impacting second rower, I think we have enough footballing talent in the team to go all the way, but we just do not cut it mentally and, until we do, we will never ever be in the mix. I don't know what is it, but like many of its supporters, this club and the subsequent teams mentally still seem to be living off the 1 Premiership win they achieved 11 years ago! And just about every player we have bought, over the years since, has fallen victim to the lackadaisical culture that has permeated this club.

Until we change the culture and the mental attitudes of the players & staff, no one we buy will make any real difference to our performances on the field, imo. So please WT, can you just get someone to step in and address this important area, otherwise I'm afraid it will just be Groundhog day again next season and the next, and the next….
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True Dat !
 
@Tigrr said:
Everybody seems to like Lawrence but he is a suspect defender over 80mins. Maybe he should start off the bench for impact running late in the game. I think Aloai will improve. Naiqama and Rankin must go. So one great 2nd rower and one great winger will help. I would be coaching Felise to be the next Taumalolo type of player as well!
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Lawrence tires, I don't think he's an 80 minute defender. Take him off around the 60th minute.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Tigrr said:
Everybody seems to like Lawrence but he is a suspect defender over 80mins. Maybe he should start off the bench for impact running late in the game. I think Aloai will improve. Naiqama and Rankin must go. So one great 2nd rower and one great winger will help. I would be coaching Felise to be the next Taumalolo type of player as well!

Lawrence tires, I don't think he's an 80 minute defender. Take him off around the 60th minute.
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As much as we all love Rowdy's tenacity , lets just get a better , bigger , more mobile player with better defence
 
I went to the reliable goal kicking winger and second rower shop today..All the shelves were empty…
 
@Geo. said:
I went to the reliable goal kicking winger and second rower shop today..All the shelves were empty…
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We will have to make do with Rankin continuing to play winger or take up a new career in the second row. Or, he could start the game as hooker.
 
@Newtown said:
@Geo. said:
I went to the reliable goal kicking winger and second rower shop today..All the shelves were empty…

We will have to make do with Rankin continuing to play winger or take up a new career in the second row. Or, he could start the game as hooker.
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No to Rankin playing anywhere, if we are serious about making the 8, he is not in the 17.
 
@happy tiger said:
A miracle or two won't go astray in 2017 , especially if we can't significantly add to our current roster
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Agree. We look underdone in the forwards, particularly defensively. We lack the ability to bash and bully other packs which will hurt us against big physical packs such as the Raiders, Roosters, Bulldogs etc. If we could somehow instill controlled aggression throughout the team, that would be a massive bonus.
 
@willow said:
@happy tiger said:
A miracle or two won't go astray in 2017 , especially if we can't significantly add to our current roster

Agree. We look underdone in the forwards, particularly defensively. We lack the ability to bash and bully other packs which will hurt us against big physical packs such as the Raiders, Roosters, Bulldogs etc. If we could somehow instill controlled aggression throughout the team, that would be a massive bonus.
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Unless we earn respect from opposition forward packs I don't think controlled aggression is much use to be honest Willow

I wonder what is going through JWH's , James Graham , Jesse Bromwich , Matt Scott or Shannon Boyd's mind when they face up against WT's

The Fear of God factor wouldn't be one of them , imagine their mindset would be good completion rates , roll up the middle and attack the edges when they tire and the points will come

And if the WT's are having one of those days , just roll up the middle and they will just roll over and play dead and you'll score at will

That what annoys me the most about this club , yeah occasionally top clubs get flogged but not three or four times a season and not when their season is on the line like the Penrith and Raiders games
 
I think we have one of the better packs in the comp when it comes to our middle forwards.

We hardly got rolled last year at all. I think Canberra and Canterbury were the only teams that rolled us. Canberra did it with but they have big fast wingers and backrowers. Canterbury had Williams and Kasiano coming off the bench.
 
@stevetiger said:
I think we have one of the better packs in the comp when it comes to our middle forwards.

We hardly got rolled last year at all. I think Canberra and Canterbury were the only teams that rolled us. Canberra did it with but they have big fast wingers and backrowers. Canterbury had Williams and Kasiano coming off the bench.
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Penrith rolled us up the guts 2nd game ,Roosters rolled us up the guts , Titans rolled us up the guts 1st time

Must be fun in your world Steve
 
@stevetiger said:
I think we have one of the better packs in the comp when it comes to our middle forwards.

We hardly got rolled last year at all. I think Canberra and Canterbury were the only teams that rolled us. Canberra did it with but they have big fast wingers and backrowers. Canterbury had Williams and Kasiano coming off the bench.
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That's a bit of rubbish there steve..in nearly all the games we lost bar Melbourne we lost the middle of the ruck….resulting in our edge defenders being sucked in which lead to space out wide leaking the points...

It amazes me how many people don't actually see this they see where the points are scored which is generrally out wide late in the tackle count as they suck yet forget the preceding tackles that lead to the creation of that space....
 
I think one thing we need in 2017 and beyond is a better approach to the tail end of the top 25\. We're going to have quite a bit of money tied up in players like Naiqama, Rankin, Sironen, Edwards and Hunt who ideally won't be playing first grade. I don't imagine any of them are on bottom dollar contracts and at least one of them is on a contract substantially above minimum. We've been producing quality juniors for a while now and we should be more prepared to rely on them as first grade depth on bottom dollar top 25 contracts (like Paseka, Marsters, Tatola, Mapesone, Heleta etc). Saving a couple of hundred k at the bottom end frees up a couple of hundred k to spend at the top end.

Interesting above that we were linked to T-Rex. If we have any money to throw around I think it would be better spent on a winger like Taufua who would probably command similar money.
 
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