Who do we offload?

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Is it just me or did the NRL race their verdict through yet with other clubs it takes a very long time. Manly for example

They didn’t race any verdict through. We’d been under investigation for months.
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared **“to take a bullet”** for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

Literally? 😢
I dont think we need to go to such extremes
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..

Spot on
 
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I think the bottom line is Greenberg dont want us as part of NRL future plans

I think that the bottom line is that Greenburg fears Pascoe as a future threat to his position of NRL CEO.
 
Just the rest of the article…

Robbie Farah is a Wests Tigers man through and through.

And he’s ready to prove it with the ultimate act of selflessness.

The veteran hooker says he is ready to walk away from the club before any of his teammates are forced out in the wake of the huge salary cap fine imposed on the Tigers by the NRL.

The Tigers were fined $750,000 on Wednesday for failing to disclose to the NRL that Farah had been offered a post-career ambassador role at the club worth $639,000.

“I don’t want to cost somebody their contract or playing career,” Farah told The Daily Telegraph.

“It doesn’t mean as much to me as a young kid or something who is on a big contract. If it means I have to take a bullet I would rather do it then the guilt of someone being forced out leaving.

Sanctioned: Tigers breach cap

“Even though I know it’s not my fault I would still feel guilty. I’m struggling to deal with it. People will jump to conclusions and think I’m causing trouble. It was disappointing my name was mentioned. I didn’t think there was a need for it.”

Not only has Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe been deregistered by the NRL and hit with a huge fine but the total of the ambassador deal has been deducted from the club’s 2019 salary cap.

“It’s hurtful, mate,” Farah told the Sydney Morning Herald. “I don’t know why I’ve been dragged into it. I am at a point now where I am thinking about walking away. I don’t want to play. Things were going good. I was in a good headspace back at the club. But now it’s another drama. Robbie’s caused all the drama again …”
Farah hasn’t even opted to take up the deal (he has until 2020 to do so) and thus hasn’t received a cent from it, so he’s stunned that the Tigers have been plunged into crisis.

“I feel sorry for Justin,” Farah said. “He’s a good man and he’s turned the club around. Myself and him, we went through some tough times when the drama unfolded with the old coach [Jason Taylor]. But I’ve never questioned his integrity. For him to be deregistered through all this is just absurd. When this was first discussed, he just wanted to mend how I had been treated. It was a show of goodwill. He’d seen how I’d been disrespected and thought this was just the right thing to do for me post-footy.

Robbie Farah lives for the Wests Tigers.
Robbie Farah lives for the Wests Tigers.Source:AAP

“I don’t understand the enormity of the fines because it was public knowledge. You’d written about it [the ambassador role]. A million journos had written about it. I’d spoken about it in the media. It wasn’t something that we’d tried to hide.

“It had absolutely nothing to do with my old playing contract, or my current playing contract in coming back to the Tigers. I got my contract paid out in full when I left to go to the Rabbitohs. There were no deferred payments or anything like that. It’s not like they [the Tigers] tried to hide it.

“It’s something that I might not even take up. I haven’t been paid a cent. I have business interests outside of footy so it might not even come to fruition. What happens then? The club has been penalised for something that doesn’t even exist. I’m gobsmacked. And I’m hurt. I’m hurt by the perception of it. It doesn’t matter what I think, I know I’ve done nothing wrong. “But my name is being dragged through the mud for no reason.”

Pascoe and Farah’s manager Sam Ayoub agreed to the deal in 2015, a year before the hooker was released to join South Sydney. It was seen as a “sign of respect” for him after his bitter dispute with then Tigers coach Jason Taylor.

The NRL has said it will stand by the punishment meted out to the Tigers even if Farah opts to not take up the deal.

Farah was stunned when he received a call out of the blue from the integrity unit two weeks ago and he went into NRL headquarters to explain the deal. But he was left flummoxed when the Tigers’ punishment was handed down.

“I know Justin has done nothing wrong,” said Farah.

“He tried to do the right thing by me and the club. Even during the difficult period when I left the club and emotions were high, Justin always treated me with respect.

“I’ve always seen him as a man of integrity. I feel sorry for him in this situation. He doesn’t deserve to be going through this.”
 
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I think the bottom line is Greenberg dont want us as part of NRL future plans

I think that the bottom line is that Greenburg fears Pascoe as a future threat to his position of NRL CEO.

As well he should Greenburg has been an embarrasing disaster in his job.Since he took over leadership it has been constant hypocracy and inaction on the issues most supporters of nearly all the clubs want which is fairness and being treated equally.Certainly the "powerfull" clubs dont want that and will try to keep the status quo which allows the NRL heirachy to keep their snouts in the trough
 
There's something very fishey about this. Greenberg has really over-reacted and shown his bias towards our team.

If he was offered a job when his contract with the NRL is finished, should the money he earns from his new job be included in the salary package for his current job?

Farah said that he was paid his contract money in full by WT. So he was offered a job AFTER he finished playing. WTF.

Any different from Slater and Smith?

Or am I missing something?
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..

I did read the article - a number of times. Yep very supportive and honest. But he opens himself up for manipulation and attack by stating he doesn’t want to play any more; that he is hurt his name was mentioned. He should have left that stuff out. Just come out and state he is horrified by what has transpired.
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..

I did read the article - a number of times. Yep very supportive and honest. But he opens himself up for manipulation and attack by stating he doesn’t want to play any more; that he is hurt his name was mentioned. He should have left that stuff out. Just come out and state he is horrified by what has transpired.

Not time to attack our own over this - that's playing into NRLs hands. They would love this to destabilize us.
Keep the finger pointing at them.We were just about to celebrate our first profit making year in what seems forever and - bam they rip it right from under us.
Its an unjust ruling in terms of the breach and all anger should remain soley directed at them atm.
 
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Farah - and also tell him he can shove his ambassador role as he walks out the door.

Harsh but fair. If the NRL are including all of this in Farahs contract, then by extension, Farah leaving should solve the problem.

Why is it Farah fault if our incompetent CEO doesn’t know the rules.
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Its probably not Farahs fault, but we probably also shouldnt have extended his contract. I think the NRL are wrong in this, my comment was more along the lines of "well if the NRL are lumping Farah's post footy role in the salary cap then if he leaves and doesnt get it, it never existed and solves the problem"

And by the way Pascoe is clearly the most competent CEO we have had
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..

I did read the article - a number of times. Yep very supportive and honest. But he opens himself up for manipulation and attack by stating he doesn’t want to play any more; that he is hurt his name was mentioned. He should have left that stuff out. Just come out and state he is horrified by what has transpired.

Unfortunately for you he is a human being.

I wouldn't be hurt id be down right tired of it by now. I'd walk too.

His name is in the news again. Through absolutely no fault of his own in this case and guys like you are lining up to give it to him again

Human nature to be tired of that.
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

Dude, BRAVO FARAH!
Why are you criticising him when he says "hey ill leave to save the team". Like what you have said is right, but hey let him take a bullet, we see if Liddle can do hooker full time (and we need a backup there, unsure if our knights recruit can cut it).
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It will be one or two of the following.

Masters.
Liddle.
Twal.

Everyone else is on overs.

Unless we go down the path of paying half contracts to players as an incentive for the other club to take them.

Think about who Parramatta lost when it struck them, Melbourne as well.

It’s unfortunately going to be someone or a couple of players that can obtain a higher deal from moving clubs and are attractive to another club.

Yes we have money but you forget we need to recruit 2 more players to fill out our squad with a minimum of $140,000 ($80k each)

This means with the fine included we need at least $779,000 available.

OWCH.
Just Owch. Twal would be the one player I would want to keep under any circumstances, Marsters probably in the top 5.

I feel like screaming NOOOOOOooooooo.
If Robbie leaves, I wonder if that would be enough to keep the team. Just without Robbie, then everything falls on Liddle and he is not an 80 minute player. Unsure if he will play the entire season.

I guess us suffering like this may make it possible to offload Reynolds back to the Dogs, who will be willing to offload Foran back to Manly. This is going to generate a lot of movement.
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..

I did read the article - a number of times. Yep very supportive and honest. But he opens himself up for manipulation and attack by stating he doesn’t want to play any more; that he is hurt his name was mentioned. He should have left that stuff out. Just come out and state he is horrified by what has transpired.

For you to reach that conclusion is simply amazing. As prejudiced and biased as is humanly possible, but amazing all the same.
So if I tell you that I'm going to donate $5mill to charity, you will just say " You, you, you. it's always about you."
 
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I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

And this is the trouble with Robbie Farah stories. The myth often leads the fact.

Read the article, he shows nothing but support for Pascoe and great leadership. He doesnt want to be the reason some young kid loses their Wests Tigers contract..

I did read the article - a number of times. Yep very supportive and honest. But he opens himself up for manipulation and attack by stating he doesn’t want to play any more; that he is hurt his name was mentioned. He should have left that stuff out. Just come out and state he is horrified by what has transpired.

For you to reach that conclusion is simply amazing. As prejudiced and biased as is humanly possible, but amazing all the same.
So if I tell you that I'm going to donate $5mill to charity, you will just say " You, you, you. it's always about you."

Actually yes - I think the true givers are those who donate in anonymity
 
Well I’ve caused a stir!! Wasn’t bagging Farah at all - just saying he brings unwanted pressure on himself.
Also Patriot:”people like me” - really? I’m just stating an opinion mate, that’s all. Thought you were above making it personal.
 
I'll say two things here:

1\. Farah cannot move on. Outside of him we have a young hooker whom has not.proven himself yet and it will kill us on the paddock.

2\. The papers will ask him for comment it is about his contract. I admire that he said what he did as he could have just said I signed the contract and I didn't want to move on it was the clubs fault. He spoke of JP's character and that he recognises the contribution he made to the club.

I've been super critical of Farah in the past but this is not a reason to toe into him.
 
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"Robbie Farah says he is prepared “to take a bullet” for his Wests Tigers team and retire immediately after being unwittingly embroiled in the club’s salary cap fiasco."- Daily Telegraph

I’m not overtly a Robbie fan, nor am I a detractor. He’s been a champion player for us but has also overplayed his hand on occasion. I believe his biggest problem is he makes it about himself and he’s done it again. A man has had his livelihood and reputation destroyed and Robbie is quoted as saying he’s upset and now doesn’t feel like playing. Cmon Robbie, think mate. It’s not about you.

Dude, BRAVO FARAH!
Why are you criticising him when he says "hey ill leave to save the team". Like what you have said is right, but hey let him take a bullet, we see if Liddle can do hooker full time (and we need a backup there, unsure if our knights recruit can cut it).
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It will be one or two of the following.

Masters.
Liddle.
Twal.

Everyone else is on overs.

Unless we go down the path of paying half contracts to players as an incentive for the other club to take them.

Think about who Parramatta lost when it struck them, Melbourne as well.

It’s unfortunately going to be someone or a couple of players that can obtain a higher deal from moving clubs and are attractive to another club.

Yes we have money but you forget we need to recruit 2 more players to fill out our squad with a minimum of $140,000 ($80k each)

This means with the fine included we need at least $779,000 available.

OWCH.
Just Owch. Twal would be the one player I would want to keep under any circumstances, Marsters probably in the top 5.

I feel like screaming NOOOOOOooooooo.
If Robbie leaves, I wonder if that would be enough to keep the team. Just without Robbie, then everything falls on Liddle and he is not an 80 minute player. Unsure if he will play the entire season.

I guess us suffering like this may make it possible to offload Reynolds back to the Dogs, who will be willing to offload Foran back to Manly. This is going to generate a lot of movement.

twal is our next million dollar man, he has so much potential that is wasted on the bench, i wouldn't be getting rid of him any time soon
 
I understand Farah thinking he has contributed to this, and though I have been critical of him in the past, I don't blame this on him at all. I think there's more behind the scenes as to why this has come up now, but I don't think Robbie himself had anything to do with that.

My question is, if Robbie retires now, and we are being strung over the coals for offering him a job post-footy, do we give him that job now? If he retires and we don't give him the job, how then can we get into trouble?? Won't that clear it up?
 

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