Who do we offload?

[Seantice]

So in the end we may be able to spread the cap reduction over 4 years and Pascoe may be back in 9 months. And the $700k fine.

I don't think we've been that harshly treated.

I don’t think you get it none of it should have happened at all.
Is JT’s ambassadorial role included in the cowboys upcoming years salary caps?
It was mentioned as happening prior to him retiring but without actually having all the details figured out. To me that sounds like the cowboys may have been saving a hundred thousand or so on JT all these years only to include that money into an ongoing deal for him.
We have no backended contracts. Farah was paid in full when he left.
Does the nrl really think we would offer that on top of a full payout knowing it would be included on the cap. As he was leaving to go to another club it was essentially the same as the panthers signing I C in 2022\. The tigers had entered into an agreement for a former player to come back and work in club capacity. I get it looks suss, but as the deal hasn’t been accepted or any monies exchanged we shouldn’t be punished for it.
Also the appeal to have Farahs cap impact reduced due to be a destabilising influence was REJECTED, so in what capacity did we pull a swifty?
If we are getting punished for attempting something only for it to be unsuccessful why were we not issued with a show cause notice in 2016 at the time of Farahs release.
Although it’s happened and if the deal does go ahead I have no problem for it to be included in the following cap years after Farah retires. If it is legit offer of further employment then that’s fair. No way should our CEO been de-registered. A letter of intent with a please explain on the other hand would have been the fair course of action.

Good post mate. The NRL has gone about this the wrong way and I feel that if we contest this it will be thrown out.

Honestly we did some irregular things bit with Greenburg claiming we have cheated the cap has put him into a corner. This Farah deal was public knowledge in about 5 articles in the past. The NRL did nothing. We asked for an exemption due to Farah's disruptive ness. I agree its a stretch but you can argue for it. We didn't get an exemption. NRL did nothing.

This whole thing stinks to high hell. I'd take the NRL to the cleaners honestly.

 

[The-moP]

If we have to offload some players, we should go in the following order:

**Musgrove** .. we signed him ?? .. but the NRL never approved his contract
**McQueen** .. we have some young gun back rowers in the juniors/NSWCup who will need to step up
**Rochow** .. as above
**Farah** (if he elects to retire) .. Liddle will have to step up .. then who .. ??
**Marshall** .. we have Reynolds .. and Soni Luke (a half), and Gamble

By releasing these players we might be able to pick up 1 or 2 ESL players.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Farah - and also tell him he can shove his ambassador role as he walks out the door.

Harsh but fair. If the NRL are including all of this in Farahs contract, then by extension, Farah leaving should solve the problem.

Why is it Farah fault if our incompetent CEO doesn’t know the rules.
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Its probably not Farahs fault, but we probably also shouldnt have extended his contract. I think the NRL are wrong in this, my comment was more along the lines of "well if the NRL are lumping Farah's post footy role in the salary cap then if he leaves and doesnt get it, it never existed and solves the problem"
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And by the way Pascoe is clearly the most competent CEO we have had

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Harsh but fair. If the NRL are including all of this in Farahs contract, then by extension, Farah leaving should solve the problem.

Why is it Farah fault if our incompetent CEO doesn’t know the rules.
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Its probably not Farahs fault, but we probably also shouldnt have extended his contract. I think the NRL are wrong in this, my comment was more along the lines of "well if the NRL are lumping Farah's post footy role in the salary cap then if he leaves and doesnt get it, it never existed and solves the problem"
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And by the way Pascoe is clearly the most competent CEO we have had

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

 

[gallagher]

So in the end we may be able to spread the cap reduction over 4 years and Pascoe may be back in 9 months. And the $700k fine.

I don't think we've been that harshly treated.

I don’t think you get it none of it should have happened at all.
Is JT’s ambassadorial role included in the cowboys upcoming years salary caps?
It was mentioned as happening prior to him retiring but without actually having all the details figured out. To me that sounds like the cowboys may have been saving a hundred thousand or so on JT all these years only to include that money into an ongoing deal for him.
We have no backended contracts. Farah was paid in full when he left.
Does the nrl really think we would offer that on top of a full payout knowing it would be included on the cap. As he was leaving to go to another club it was essentially the same as the panthers signing I C in 2022\. The tigers had entered into an agreement for a former player to come back and work in club capacity. I get it looks suss, but as the deal hasn’t been accepted or any monies exchanged we shouldn’t be punished for it.
Also the appeal to have Farahs cap impact reduced due to be a destabilising influence was REJECTED, so in what capacity did we pull a swifty?
If we are getting punished for attempting something only for it to be unsuccessful why were we not issued with a show cause notice in 2016 at the time of Farahs release.
Although it’s happened and if the deal does go ahead I have no problem for it to be included in the following cap years after Farah retires. If it is legit offer of further employment then that’s fair. No way should our CEO been de-registered. A letter of intent with a please explain on the other hand would have been the fair course of action.

We'll win the appeal then.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Why is it Farah fault if our incompetent CEO doesn’t know the rules.
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Its probably not Farahs fault, but we probably also shouldnt have extended his contract. I think the NRL are wrong in this, my comment was more along the lines of "well if the NRL are lumping Farah's post footy role in the salary cap then if he leaves and doesnt get it, it never existed and solves the problem"
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And by the way Pascoe is clearly the most competent CEO we have had

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

They should have been well and truly in it in most of their early days, without a doubt.
Anything that they do these days would be much smarter , but probably legal under NRL rules,
No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Pascoe, if he had broken the rules then it’s his fault , and has cost us a pile of moneys and stuffed our cap.
As CEO, he should have been aware of what he was doing
I have no problem if it means that all clubs will come under the same microscope( and they probably will)

 

[Russell]

Its probably not Farahs fault, but we probably also shouldnt have extended his contract. I think the NRL are wrong in this, my comment was more along the lines of "well if the NRL are lumping Farah's post footy role in the salary cap then if he leaves and doesnt get it, it never existed and solves the problem"
\
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And by the way Pascoe is clearly the most competent CEO we have had

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

They should have been well and truly in it in most of their early days, without a doubt.
Anything that they do these days would be much smarter , but probably legal under NRL rules,
No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Pascoe, if he had broken the rules then it’s his fault , and has cost us a pile of moneys and stuffed our cap.
As CEO, he should have been aware of what he was doing
I have no problem if it means that all clubs will come under the same microscope( and they probably will)

If you think all clubs will come under the microscope - you are having yourself on Mate!

The NRL is not a level playing field and never will be.

 

[diedpretty]

We need to buy 2 players with $60k.
Which means we will need to sell another player to free up money.
We need to offload a mid range player at least in order to buy 3 minimum salary squad players of 80k each.
The maths says we will need to make a call on at least one player.

Thats if the cap penalty stands as is - also we don't need to fill the roster until June. I wouldn't be doing anything at this stage.

 

[diedpretty]

Its probably not Farahs fault, but we probably also shouldnt have extended his contract. I think the NRL are wrong in this, my comment was more along the lines of "well if the NRL are lumping Farah's post footy role in the salary cap then if he leaves and doesnt get it, it never existed and solves the problem"
\
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And by the way Pascoe is clearly the most competent CEO we have had

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

They should have been well and truly in it in most of their early days, without a doubt.
Anything that they do these days would be much smarter , but probably legal under NRL rules,
No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Pascoe, if he had broken the rules then it’s his fault , and has cost us a pile of moneys and stuffed our cap.
As CEO, he should have been aware of what he was doing
I have no problem if it means that all clubs will come under the same microscope( and they probably will)

You were going ok until the last sentence - you can't really be serious about that sentence - made me laugh.

 

[851]

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

They should have been well and truly in it in most of their early days, without a doubt.
Anything that they do these days would be much smarter , but probably legal under NRL rules,
No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Pascoe, if he had broken the rules then it’s his fault , and has cost us a pile of moneys and stuffed our cap.
As CEO, he should have been aware of what he was doing
I have no problem if it means that all clubs will come under the same microscope( and they probably will)

You were going ok until the last sentence - you can't really be serious about that sentence - made me laugh.

Yeh they are going to go through the chooks and donkeys books with a fine tooth comb, that would be one helluva Christmas present

 

[joelw2002]

Great there goes our hopes of getting Robert Jennings, off to Parramatta he goes even though Parra are meant to be under cap pressure but they still can get him. They don't deserve him, we've worked hard, never cheated the cap but yet our CEO gets deregistered and we have $600k taken out of our salary cap. When teams like Cronulla have been under salary cap investigation for almost a year and still get all the players they want but we get severely punished within 2 to 3 days of this surfacing. I'm sick of weaker teams being bullied and pushed around while the stronger teams get away more easily. This is something Pascoe despised and we finally had a good CEO, but he gets deregistered for something as little as offering Robbie Farah to be an ambassador 2 years ago and kept it from the NRL. Like that has got anything to do with our salary cap yet we get punished and are now at a disadvantage to other teams for something so little.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Great there goes our hopes of getting Robert Jennings, off to Parramatta he goes even though Parra are meant to be under cap pressure but they still can get him. **They don't deserve him**, we've worked hard, never cheated the cap but yet our CEO gets deregistered and we have $600k taken out of our salary cap. When teams like Cronulla have been under salary cap investigation for almost a year and still get all the players they want but we get severely punished within 2 to 3 days of this surfacing. I'm sick of weaker teams being bullied and pushed around while the stronger teams get away more easily. This is something Pascoe despised and we finally had a good CEO, but he gets deregistered for something as little as offering Robbie Farah to be an ambassador 2 years ago and kept it from the NRL. Like that has got anything to do with our salary cap yet we get punished and are now at a disadvantage to other teams for something so little.

Oh please

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Great there goes our hopes of getting Robert Jennings, off to Parramatta he goes even though Parra are meant to be under cap pressure but they still can get him. **They don't deserve him**, we've worked hard, never cheated the cap but yet our CEO gets deregistered and we have $600k taken out of our salary cap. When teams like Cronulla have been under salary cap investigation for almost a year and still get all the players they want but we get severely punished within 2 to 3 days of this surfacing. I'm sick of weaker teams being bullied and pushed around while the stronger teams get away more easily. This is something Pascoe despised and we finally had a good CEO, but he gets deregistered for something as little as offering Robbie Farah to be an ambassador 2 years ago and kept it from the NRL. Like that has got anything to do with our salary cap yet we get punished and are now at a disadvantage to other teams for something so little.

Oh please

Maybe you should set up a forum where it’s just you. You could spend all day agreeing with yourself. Still might find competing egos would cause infighting

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Great there goes our hopes of getting Robert Jennings, off to Parramatta he goes even though Parra are meant to be under cap pressure but they still can get him. **They don't deserve him**, we've worked hard, never cheated the cap but yet our CEO gets deregistered and we have $600k taken out of our salary cap. When teams like Cronulla have been under salary cap investigation for almost a year and still get all the players they want but we get severely punished within 2 to 3 days of this surfacing. I'm sick of weaker teams being bullied and pushed around while the stronger teams get away more easily. This is something Pascoe despised and we finally had a good CEO, but he gets deregistered for something as little as offering Robbie Farah to be an ambassador 2 years ago and kept it from the NRL. Like that has got anything to do with our salary cap yet we get punished and are now at a disadvantage to other teams for something so little.

Oh please

Maybe you should set up a forum where it’s just you. You could spend all day agreeing with yourself. Still might find competing egos would cause infighting

What, and leave all my many fans like you on this forum? Never.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Great there goes our hopes of getting Robert Jennings, off to Parramatta he goes even though Parra are meant to be under cap pressure but they still can get him. **They don't deserve him**, we've worked hard, never cheated the cap but yet our CEO gets deregistered and we have $600k taken out of our salary cap. When teams like Cronulla have been under salary cap investigation for almost a year and still get all the players they want but we get severely punished within 2 to 3 days of this surfacing. I'm sick of weaker teams being bullied and pushed around while the stronger teams get away more easily. This is something Pascoe despised and we finally had a good CEO, but he gets deregistered for something as little as offering Robbie Farah to be an ambassador 2 years ago and kept it from the NRL. Like that has got anything to do with our salary cap yet we get punished and are now at a disadvantage to other teams for something so little.

Oh please

Maybe you should set up a forum where it’s just you. You could spend all day agreeing with yourself. Still might find competing egos would cause infighting

What, and leave all my many fans like you on this forum? Never.

To quote someone who thinks he’s famous: Oh please!!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

You’d think then, that he’d be across whatever rules apply to payments that he was proposing to make to anyone, he’s the CEO, the buck stops with him.
I’m just surprised how we jump up and down whenever another club gets into the poo, but so many look for excuses when we’re the ones who’ve stuff up.

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

They should have been well and truly in it in most of their early days, without a doubt.
Anything that they do these days would be much smarter , but probably legal under NRL rules,
No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Pascoe, if he had broken the rules then it’s his fault , and has cost us a pile of moneys and stuffed our cap.
As CEO, he should have been aware of what he was doing
I have no problem if it means that all clubs will come under the same microscope( and they probably will)

You were going ok until the last sentence - you can't really be serious about that sentence - made me laugh.

Im not not into some of the conspiracy theories tha float around in just about all clubs in the NFL
Most clubs think that they get shafted and are always hard done by-

It’s simple really, don’t break the rules and they can’t be in trouble.
The NRL must be in possession of a lot more facts than we are, or else they wouldn’t be going so hard..
There could be more coming.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

When’s the last time Broncos or roosters were in the poo?

They should have been well and truly in it in most of their early days, without a doubt.
Anything that they do these days would be much smarter , but probably legal under NRL rules,
No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Pascoe, if he had broken the rules then it’s his fault , and has cost us a pile of moneys and stuffed our cap.
As CEO, he should have been aware of what he was doing
I have no problem if it means that all clubs will come under the same microscope( and they probably will)

You were going ok until the last sentence - you can't really be serious about that sentence - made me laugh.

I’m not not into some of the conspiracy theories tha float around in just about all clubs in the NFL
**Most clubs think that they get shafted and are always hard done by-**

It’s simple really, don’t break the rules and they can’t be in trouble.
The NRL must be in possession of a lot more facts than we are, or else they wouldn’t be going so hard..
There could be more coming.

This is the truth. I was reading the Roosters forum during the finals series, and they were convinced the NRL is against them. All supporters feel that way about their team, regardless how successful they are.

 

[simonthetiger]

Two points…one if the NRL is all about transparency, and supposedly there is more ON us.....well what is this information then?? Clearly they aren't being transparent or what they have said is all they have and is WAY over the top.

And....I work nowhere near tiger territory.....and meet a lot of peeps into the footy and I dead set cant recall one person who thinks that what has happened to us is fair in any way,

 

[TYGA]

It’s clear we breached the rules. The penalty is over the top and will likely be reduced on appeal.

 

[happy_tiger]

I know it is early days still , but the fact we have no sponsors wanting to jump ship says a lot about this charge from the NRL