Who is our worst

[earl]

The funny thing is they are also claiming the coaches to be bad judges, hard to be objective after such a loss but the bias both by supporters and coaches is chocking the club And the forum

It's just dumb. The coaching staff have been incompetent. I think some of this came back to Sheens really talking TT and Blore up for who knows why.

As for the supporters a bunch of them are going full moron style because we've been terrible for years on end but it's not really an excuse.

So much for turning the club around this season. Hopefully the coaching team watch that game and make changes but they also need to look at themselves.

 

[Telltails]

Brooks nearly always does something in a game that is an effort play - he has skills - but he doesn't fulfill his role as a halfback. Indivually often does great things. Kicked a great 40/20 then should been the first one up there calling the shots and setting up the play to take advantage of it. A squad needs direction in a attack and all he does is cause confusion be cause no one can back him to take control.

 

[earl]

Brooks nearly always does something in a game that is an effort play - he has skills - but he doesn't fulfill his role as a halfback. Indivually often does great things.

The good old halfback argument. So what we need is for Brooks to do everything and if he doesn't he isn't a halfback.

AD can completely stuff up so many chances and let in tries like that is part of his job and play the exact same role mostly on the other side of the field but Brooks is the problem.

It makes no sense and it's stupid and it's dumb but people keep saying it.

Api makes heaps of mistakes when he is meant to lead the team around but that is okay ?

The halfback argument is basically the most stupid argument of all time.

 

[Harvey]

People call out Brooks continually. I do not think he is a superstar, but would look more than competent in most other teams.

You show me any other team where the half could run 40m across the field looking for either an inside runner or someone running at a gap and can't offload because no one is making the effort.

Show me another coach that would stand for that? That should be front and centre of this weeks video session, it was an absolute embarrassment and those players should hang their heads.

 

[TCL]

Brooks nearly always does something in a game that is an effort play - he has skills - but he doesn't fulfill his role as a halfback. Indivually often does great things. Kicked a great 40/20 then should been the first one up there calling the shots and setting up the play to take advantage of it. A squad needs direction in a attack and all he does is cause confusion be cause no one can back him to take control.

A squad needs a backline that can Finish a play. There was plenty of direction yesterday and plenty of opportunities. we only made there line breaks yesterday, our backline made zero against a team that had 12 players.

 

[Telltails]

The good old halfback argument. So what we need is for Brooks to do everything and if he doesn't he isn't a halfback.

AD can completely stuff up so many chances and let in tries like that is part of his job and play the exact same role mostly on the other side of the field but Brooks is the problem.

It makes no sense and it's stupid and it's dumb but people keep saying it.

Api makes heaps of mistakes when he is meant to lead the team around but that is okay ?

The halfback argument is basically the most stupid argument of all time.

AD is just as inept - this is not competition between these two they both failed. They both often have good individual plays and if they come off people will justify their positions.
Both our first two games were there for the taking and neither of our halves looked like they had a clue what to do when we were in the attacking zones - it was embarrassing.
When we have no ball no field position and are out muscled never can blame halves but the last two weeks they have got no excuses.

 

[Twodogs]

I'd vote for coaching. Coaching is the worse of the lot.
There is no structure at all, no straight runners, halves standing still. A naturally talented player like Marshall can't coach attack. Everything came natural to him, so what could he possibly offer? All the best coaches had to work super hard at there game to even play NRL. There has never in the history of Rugby League been a successful coach that was an incredibly gifted player.

I think you're right. The best coaches weren't dominant players at the top level. Bellamy was pretty good, but imagine someone like Brett Kenny being a coach. He was uncoachable, much like Benji.

 

[Twodogs]

AD is just as inept - this is not competition between these two they both failed. They both often have good individual plays and if they come off people will justify their positions.
Both our first two games were there for the taking and neither of our halves looked like they had a clue what to do when we were in the attacking zones - it was embarrassing.
When we have no ball no field position and are out muscled never can blame halves but the last two weeks they have got no excuses.

Hastings could control the game, but Sheens didn't like him soooo.....

 

[earl]

AD is just as inept - this is not competition between these two they both failed. They both often have good individual plays and if they come off people will justify their positions.
Both our first two games were there for the taking and neither of our halves looked like they had a clue what to do when we were in the attacking zones - it was embarrassing.
When we have no ball no field position and are out muscled never can blame halves but the last two weeks they have got no excuses.

I've said at the start of the season we have the worst spine in the comp. Someone posted other spines and maybe we aren't the worst but we are pretty bad.

Brooks isn't a great player. I'm not saying that. He is actually fine apart from executing in the opposition attacking zone. You can't have Brooks though as your dominant play maker or stupid comments like "it's his team". It's not his go and it's been clear for a while now. Maguire didn't give him that role and neither did Noddy and even Sheens etc are clearly going to AD as much if not more than Brooks.

The problem is AD isn't that guy either. In fact he has been considerably worse than Brooks in the past 2 games.

--> I'm not an AD hater or a Brooks lover either. I'm just watching the game and giving objective not biased feedback. Brooks was our best player yesterday and crucifying him for our performance is a lesson in abject stupidity.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Hastings could control the game, but Sheens didn't like him soooo.....

Stuff Hastings wish we had of folded him and Gamble yesterday. All I want next week Is for our fowards to whack blokes set after set attack with our defence 😤 we think we are the Harlem globe trotters all flash push passes no direction. Lay the platform save the flashy stuff for when the opposition is wrecked. We have the fowards to do it but this sideways crap with no pace is hard to watch.

 

[TillLindemann]

People need to stop talking out of their backsides. He got the 3 from me and anyone who has any idea about rugby league.

Clearly our best player and it wasn't close.

Kepaoa was our best yesterday.

 

[TillLindemann]

Like Hastings does when he points his finger or AD does when he overplays his hand and stuffs up an easy scoring opportunity. You mean like that ?

I don't think that helps us.

It clearly does help us, as we were a better team when Brooks was not available last year. The kind of performance we put in against the Cowboys last year is not something we can do with Brooks at halfback.

 

[twentyforty]

I'd vote for coaching. Coaching is the worse of the lot.
There is no structure at all, no straight runners, halves standing still. A naturally talented player like Marshall can't coach attack. Everything came natural to him, so what could he possibly offer? All the best coaches had to work super hard at there game to even play NRL. There has never in the history of Rugby League been a successful coach that was an incredibly gifted player.

Slater?

 

[earl]

It clearly does help us, as we were a better team when Brooks was not available last year. The kind of performance we put in against the Cowboys last year is not something we can do with Brooks at halfback.

I love this. Since you've been proven wrong based on yesterday you change the argument to a random game last year.

I'll give you a little hint - we can't win games consistently with the squad we have. To be really clear and focused our spine and outside backs aren't good enough.

Brooks is not the problem. AD and Stef are our big problems in the roster today. Longer term we need to upgrade our spine and backs.

 

[earl]

Kepaoa was our best yesterday.

I think it was clearly Brooks however this is not a stupid argument. He was pretty good. I don't think I picked him in my top 3 but he was good and he should have been in my top 3.

 

[twentyforty]

People need to stop talking out of their backsides. He got the 3 from me and anyone who has any idea about rugby league.

Clearly our best player and it wasn't close.

Brooks looked a class above any other player we had out there yesterday. He needs to keep it up and with Batemans help drag the rest of the team up.

 

[earl]

Brooks looked a class above any other player we had out there yesterday. He needs to keep it up and with Batemans help drag the rest of the team up.

I think Api and IP are guys we can build around. Brooks was good but I don't want him talked about as a leader or controlling halfback or whatever because that makes it way too hard for him.

I actually think Stef and AD should be dropped until they find some form in reserves.

 

[Telltails]

I've said at the start of the season we have the worst spine in the comp. Someone posted other spines and maybe we aren't the worst but we are pretty bad.

Brooks isn't a great player. I'm not saying that. He is actually fine apart from executing in the opposition attacking zone. You can't have Brooks though as your dominant play maker or stupid comments like "it's his team". It's not his go and it's been clear for a while now. Maguire didn't give him that role and neither did Noddy and even Sheens etc are clearly going to AD as much if not more than Brooks.

The problem is AD isn't that guy either. In fact he has been considerably worse than Brooks in the past 2 games.

--> I'm not an AD hater or a Brooks lover either. I'm just watching the game and giving objective not biased feedback. Brooks was our best player yesterday and crucifying him for our performance is a lesson in abject stupidity.

We can't function as team with those two who appear to have zero ability to communicate with each other or their players. I feel sorry for the players outside them because it was plain as day that no one had a clue what they were doing. There is no trust - they all looked like strangers.

 

[Demps]

I think Api and IP are guys we can build around. Brooks was good but I don't want him talked about as a leader or controlling halfback or whatever because that makes it way too hard for him.

I actually think Stef and AD should be dropped until they find some form in reserves.

AD just got a contract extension, albeit one year...

Brooks is off contract.
Grant him an early exit and plan for the future.

A future without Brooks.

AD can play centre for the rest of the year - we have only one capable option (Naden - since they wanna make AJ a utility)

1 Staines
2 Tupou
3 Naden
4 AD
5 Starford
6 Will Smith
7 Wakeham

Desperate times.

 

[sparci]

AD just got a contract extension, albeit one year...

Brooks is off contract.
Grant him an early exit and plan for the future.

A future without Brooks.

AD can play centre for the rest of the year - we have only one capable option (Naden - since they wanna make AJ a utility)

1 Staines
2 Tupou
3 Naden
4 AD
5 Starford
6 Will Smith
7 Wakeham

Desperate times.

I'd actually go with those halves if we could select will smith, unfortunately i dont think we can pick him in fg