Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers

Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion
 
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

Flanagan will bring Kyle and Xerri 2k23...

Xerri is looking shredded and has been sprint training with that sprint expert with the Italian name. Looks fast.
 
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit. He also has a reputation for being a good man manager.
 
Ciraldo may be WT first choice - I highly doubt he comes here. We'd have more chance of getting Flanagan. WT problems from the outside looking in are quite clear - a rookie coach who has any notion of maintaining a career in the NRL will give us a wide berth.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476318) said:
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit.

He's the best available.
Unless a rookie is the thoughts...

Our team for the most part acts like rookies.
Bet Ciraldo will love being one of the boys.
Remind him of his playing days.

But there's a job to do.
We need some one that is ready to do the job.

No nonsense flanno please.
 
@willow said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476319) said:
Ciraldo may be WT first choice - I highly doubt he comes here. We'd have more chance of getting Flanagan. WT problems from the outside looking in are quite clear - a rookie coach who has any notion of maintaining a career in the NRL will give us a wide berth.

It could go either way.
Read my comment after yours.

I think we need an old head to be fair.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476323) said:
@willow said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476319) said:
Ciraldo may be WT first choice - I highly doubt he comes here. We'd have more chance of getting Flanagan. WT problems from the outside looking in are quite clear - a rookie coach who has any notion of maintaining a career in the NRL will give us a wide berth.

Elaborate for us please, @willow, on what problems are clear to you?

The roster for starters. We've got a bunch of players who are about as reliable as a 1980 Alfa Romeo. Then you've got the Chairman who loves the Tigers but has been about as effective as the players since he came in. And finally the infamous WT board, who second guess coaches more than any other NRL club in the comp - to be quite frank a nutless monkey could do a better job than that lot.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476327) said:
@willow said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476325) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476323) said:
@willow said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476319) said:
Ciraldo may be WT first choice - I highly doubt he comes here. We'd have more chance of getting Flanagan. WT problems from the outside looking in are quite clear - a rookie coach who has any notion of maintaining a career in the NRL will give us a wide berth.

Elaborate for us please, @willow, on what problems are clear to you?

The roster for starters. We've got a bunch of players who are about as reliable as a 1980 Alfa Romeo. Then you've got the Chairman who loves the Tigers but has been about as effective as the players since he came in. And finally the infamous WT board, who second guess coaches more than any other NRL club in the comp - to be quite frank a nutless monkey could do a better job than that lot.

I pretty much agree. But, why remove the current coach, who would also know those things, and replace him with someone else who will take a year or two to work out the failings of the Club?

Therein lies the problem with the board - they keep second guessing the coaches and we keep going around in the same old cycle. I don't think Madge can stay, there's no way our mob are playing for the bloke. What's the easier option? Wipe out 5-6 players who are under contract and would need to be paid out, costing the club a couple of million or a bit more and likely take legal action - or punt the coach?

They've always taken the easy way out.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476338) said:
Riccio saying on SEN Madge could be sacked as early as today

Yeah, heard that too...Dead man walking, apparently.
 
@demps said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476320) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476318) said:
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit.

He's the best available.
Unless a rookie is the thoughts...

Our team for the most part acts like rookies.
Bet Ciraldo will love being one of the boys.
Remind him of his playing days.

But there's a job to do.
We need some one that is ready to do the job.

No nonsense flanno please.

Gallen Lewis Ennis Fifita Graham Maloney Barba Holmes in career best form - that's what brought Flannagan and the Sharks success and attracted other players to the club. There is no one in our squad even close to the quality of those players. The quick fix is not going to happen and he will face the same challenges as Maguire. Rosters make and break coaches.
 
@telltails said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476342) said:
@demps said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476320) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476318) said:
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit.

He's the best available.
Unless a rookie is the thoughts...

Our team for the most part acts like rookies.
Bet Ciraldo will love being one of the boys.
Remind him of his playing days.

But there's a job to do.
We need some one that is ready to do the job.

No nonsense flanno please.

Gallen Lewis Ennis Fifita Graham Maloney Barba Holmes in career best form - that's what brought Flannagan and the Sharks success and attracted other players to the club. There is no one in our squad even close to the quality of those players. The quick fix is not going to happen and he will face the same challenges as Maguire. Rosters make and break coaches.

So the fact they were in career best form has nothing to do with Flanagan? There are quite a few egos in that group which seems to confirm Flanagan is a very good person manager, something we need at WTs.
 
@tiger_heart said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476340) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476338) said:
Riccio saying on SEN Madge could be sacked as early as today

Yeah, heard that too...Dead man walking, apparently.

In light of that, I guess the plan is to have Sheens fulfil his original job as floater and caretake until a replacement is found?
Can anyone remain in doubt about how we have become a bottom of the ladder side?
I think the question in my mind is..why didn’t we pick up the spoon in 21? Were the Bulldogs that much better than us at board incompetence?
 
Flanagan coached the best out of them , attracting new players to his team / Club , Big Stef clearly said he come back from origin with a better outlook and played some very good games after his Very short time in that camp , Madge couldn’t get players up like that , I believe Flanagan will get players to our club and also lift us up to be competing for the 8 in his first year , I know it’s a big call but he just has that look about him and runs on the board and a very good overview of games he commentates on , Ciraldo would get crushed coming to us , We need to chop Madge today , hire Flanagan tomorrow and move on , he needs to be able to have a chance to buy players before they are all gone , Players will come under him I believe
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476343) said:
@telltails said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476342) said:
@demps said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476320) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476318) said:
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit.

He's the best available.
Unless a rookie is the thoughts...

Our team for the most part acts like rookies.
Bet Ciraldo will love being one of the boys.
Remind him of his playing days.

But there's a job to do.
We need some one that is ready to do the job.

No nonsense flanno please.

Gallen Lewis Ennis Fifita Graham Maloney Barba Holmes in career best form - that's what brought Flannagan and the Sharks success and attracted other players to the club. There is no one in our squad even close to the quality of those players. The quick fix is not going to happen and he will face the same challenges as Maguire. Rosters make and break coaches.

So the fact they were in career best form has nothing to do with Flanagan? There are quite a few egos in that group which seems to confirm Flanagan is a very good person manager, something we need at WTs.

It demonstrates the huge difference in the ability of the squad he would be taking on, much like the situation for Maguire.
Every argument you make for Flannagan could be matched to Maguire however the big problem that you wont address and is a barrier for both - is the lack of quality in the current playing squad, and a club that historically can't attract quality players.
Two problems that neither of those coaches faced at their previous clubs when they achieved success.
 
@telltails said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476350) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476343) said:
@telltails said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476342) said:
@demps said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476320) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476318) said:
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit.

He's the best available.
Unless a rookie is the thoughts...

Our team for the most part acts like rookies.
Bet Ciraldo will love being one of the boys.
Remind him of his playing days.

But there's a job to do.
We need some one that is ready to do the job.

No nonsense flanno please.

Gallen Lewis Ennis Fifita Graham Maloney Barba Holmes in career best form - that's what brought Flannagan and the Sharks success and attracted other players to the club. There is no one in our squad even close to the quality of those players. The quick fix is not going to happen and he will face the same challenges as Maguire. Rosters make and break coaches.

So the fact they were in career best form has nothing to do with Flanagan? There are quite a few egos in that group which seems to confirm Flanagan is a very good person manager, something we need at WTs.

It demonstrates the huge difference in the ability of the squad he would be taking on, much like the situation for Maguire.
Every argument you make for Flannagan could be matched to Maguire however the big problem that you wont address and is a barrier for both - is the lack of quality in the current playing squad, and a club that historically can't attract quality players.
Two problems that neither of those coaches faced at their previous clubs when they achieved success.



Read the Hooper article and he writes words to the effect that the Club has been informed in no uncertain terms why it has difficulty recruiting players.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476352) said:
@telltails said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476350) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476343) said:
@telltails said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476342) said:
@demps said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476320) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476318) said:
@426tlgerland said in [Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers](/post/1476309) said:
Shane Flanagan for me , he is first grade NRL level coach , was very well liked by his players at sharks, won a comp , had them competitive year on year , , he’s still around the game , knows plenty of nrl level players , and is very smart operator , also comes over well in his view of games alongside Cronk who I think both have very good footy brains , smarts will always out perform muscle , just my opinion

He had the Sharks playing a tough and smart style of footy when he coached. I know he is still well thought of in the Shire. If you read about him, he reviewed the strengths of his players and devised a game plan to suit.

He's the best available.
Unless a rookie is the thoughts...

Our team for the most part acts like rookies.
Bet Ciraldo will love being one of the boys.
Remind him of his playing days.

But there's a job to do.
We need some one that is ready to do the job.

No nonsense flanno please.

Gallen Lewis Ennis Fifita Graham Maloney Barba Holmes in career best form - that's what brought Flannagan and the Sharks success and attracted other players to the club. There is no one in our squad even close to the quality of those players. The quick fix is not going to happen and he will face the same challenges as Maguire. Rosters make and break coaches.

So the fact they were in career best form has nothing to do with Flanagan? There are quite a few egos in that group which seems to confirm Flanagan is a very good person manager, something we need at WTs.

It demonstrates the huge difference in the ability of the squad he would be taking on, much like the situation for Maguire.
Every argument you make for Flannagan could be matched to Maguire however the big problem that you wont address and is a barrier for both - is the lack of quality in the current playing squad, and a club that historically can't attract quality players.
Two problems that neither of those coaches faced at their previous clubs when they achieved success.



Read the Hooper article and he writes words to the effect that the Club has been informed in no uncertain terms why it has difficulty recruiting players.

I don't have to read anything Hooper writes to know that we as a club have not been able to recruit players for years.
 

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