Who will be coach in 2022?

[JC99]

Again watch Bennetts presser ....was he angling for a job at the WT's .........

Make it happen Pascoe

He almost did before I have faith

 

[WT2K]

Anyone know if the management group Hastings and Gillart are part of have any decent players off contract or looking for a new club?

Sam Ayoub company

https://ultramanagement.com.au/players/

 

[TillLindemann]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

 

[WT2K]

Whilst I want him gone (voted Flanno) I don't think they'll sack Madge

Not sure they have a choice anymore.

Yea probably right avo

 

[JC99]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

We've missed every target and there's not really anyone decent left. It's not all Madge's fault players won't come here but we aren't signing any current stars for 2022

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

I disagree. He's failed and the money available should be used by the new coach.

 

[Yossarian]

Again watch Bennetts presser ....was he angling for a job at the WT's .........

I saw it as having a dig at the Tigers.

'How some players are treated...' IE How Benji was treated by us?

Lol. Wayne used to move on players close to retirement all the time at the Broncos.

 

[851]

Maguire will be coach next year. Guy has been successful everywhere else. We’ve got to stop sacking every coach half way through a squad rebuild/assembly. Strap yourself in and get ready for the long haul.

That is no true, we have only ever sacked Taylor and Sheens, the rest run their contract out and were not renewed, Madge has had his chance, and failed miserably

Add in Cleary leaving and you’re basically saying Mick Potter is the only coach to see out his contract since the early 2010s. And you can hardly say Potter had time to build a roster.

A 6th coach in under 10 years would be a disaster.

No, Potter got a 2 year deal, he coached 2 years, Cleary went behind our back and agreed to coach Penrith even though he had 2 years left on his contract, don't feed the crap journo's with the mantra of us continually sacking coaches

 

[BalmainJnr]

Pangai spin-fest highlights why Wests Tigers can’t get out of the hole

Michael Chammas
Sports reporter
July 4, 2021 — 7.30pm
So apparently the Wests Tigers did a background check on Tevita Pangai jnr and, despite courting him since February, suddenly just realised on Thursday night that he wasn’t a good fit for the club.

LOL. You couldn’t get better spin out of a day-five deck in Mumbai. Was the background check done before or after they verbally offered his manager a two-and-a-half year deal worth $600,000 last week?

Was it before or after whispers began circulating late on Thursday that Pangai was more interested in joining Trent Barrett and the Bulldogs?

No one would begrudge the Wests Tigers, especially given their recent history in over-paying recruits, for making a business decision not to spend a certain amount of money on a player renowned for his inconsistency.

But to have a senior member of the organisation actively reach out to the media late Thursday night in a bid to save face speaks volumes of the club’s paranoia around a perception in rugby league circles that no one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.

At 10.02pm on Thursday night, after the Melbourne Storm had put the cleaners through the Sydney Roosters, Herald league reporter Christian Nicolussi took to Twitter following a conversation with someone at the club to reveal the Tigers had pulled out of the pursuit.

“Take it as fact,” Nicolussi posted. “Wests Tigers not in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them.”

Had Pangai agreed to the $600,000-a-season deal, one finds it hard to believe this ‘homework’ the Tigers did would have prevented him from joining the club immediately.

Whether Pangai ends up at Canterbury or stays at Brisbane is irrelevant. Wests Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe and coach Michael Maguire have now been left at the altar too many times and are desperate to avoid looking out of their depth.

How many more times can they convince fans that smart business, not a shortcoming in the club's recruitment ability, is the reason for not landing a player?

Perception is reality, and as a result established players at rival teams aren’t in a hurry to jump into bed with the club unless there is no other option.

They’ve recruited well when it comes to young talent - with Daine Laurie, Stefano Utoikamanu and Shawn Blore impressing - but it’s a strategy that has been forced upon them due to the reluctance of the game’s bigger names to link with Maguire at the Tigers.

The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.

Maguire has been at the helm of the Tigers for three years. Some would argue the club has gone backwards during that time.

Sunday’s loss to the Rabbitohs only adds to the pressure on Maguire to keep his job. No doubt someone will use the second-half performance as justification as to why they still believe in the coach and that it’s the players’ fault.

It's unlikely anything will happen in regards to Maguire's future before Tim Sheens arrives later this month to run his eye over the club.

Maguire was brought to the Tigers to instil a resilience and toughness that has been lacking at the club for some years, yet after 16 weeks he has presided over the worst defensive team in the club’s history, conceding more points per game than ever before. Five wins from 16 games is also one of the club's worst starts to a season.

Things are equally grim at the Bulldogs, however the difference between the two clubs is that within a few months of taking the job, Barrett has been able to offer fans some light at the end of the tunnel through his recruitment. Matt Burton, Josh Addo-Carr, Brent Naden and now perhaps Pangai jnr are all heading to Belmore.

All the Tigers have been able to offer is the nostalgia of Sheens' return. It's hard to see the light if you're a Tigers fan. There’s only so long club officials can keep blaming Ivan Cleary.

It really irks me when a journalist quotes another journalist to present a story as fact.
No quotes from anyone representing TPJ or the Wests Tigers.
Given the story we have heard this week about the salary negotiations, it’s not likely that either side will comment at all let alone factually.
It is true that our club is in a hole but this article strips out facts to present a biased perception.
What the bulldogs are doing is a sugar hit that is going to buckle them down the line with a lop sided cap and inflated contracts that isn’t building an engine room or giving them any talent in 3/4 of the spine.

 

[Yossarian]

Maguire will be coach next year. Guy has been successful everywhere else. We’ve got to stop sacking every coach half way through a squad rebuild/assembly. Strap yourself in and get ready for the long haul.

That is no true, we have only ever sacked Taylor and Sheens, the rest run their contract out and were not renewed, Madge has had his chance, and failed miserably

Add in Cleary leaving and you’re basically saying Mick Potter is the only coach to see out his contract since the early 2010s. And you can hardly say Potter had time to build a roster.

A 6th coach in under 10 years would be a disaster.

No, Potter got a 2 year deal, he coached 2 years, Cleary went behind our back and agreed to coach Penrith even though he had 2 years left on his contract, don't feed the crap journo's with the mantra of us continually sacking coaches

Okay well if you’re not going to bother reading my posts don’t bother replying.

 

[Tiger5150]

An exclusive. Wayne Bennett ?

Bennett wont come here

Actually has a soft spot for the Tigers. I think he was a Balmain fan.

Ive seen him twice at Leichhardt on days his team wasnt playing.

 

[JD Tiger]

Pangai spin-fest highlights why Wests Tigers can’t get out of the hole

Michael Chammas
Sports reporter
July 4, 2021 — 7.30pm
So apparently the Wests Tigers did a background check on Tevita Pangai jnr and, despite courting him since February, suddenly just realised on Thursday night that he wasn’t a good fit for the club.

LOL. You couldn’t get better spin out of a day-five deck in Mumbai. Was the background check done before or after they verbally offered his manager a two-and-a-half year deal worth $600,000 last week?

Was it before or after whispers began circulating late on Thursday that Pangai was more interested in joining Trent Barrett and the Bulldogs?

No one would begrudge the Wests Tigers, especially given their recent history in over-paying recruits, for making a business decision not to spend a certain amount of money on a player renowned for his inconsistency.

But to have a senior member of the organisation actively reach out to the media late Thursday night in a bid to save face speaks volumes of the club’s paranoia around a perception in rugby league circles that no one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.

At 10.02pm on Thursday night, after the Melbourne Storm had put the cleaners through the Sydney Roosters, Herald league reporter Christian Nicolussi took to Twitter following a conversation with someone at the club to reveal the Tigers had pulled out of the pursuit.

“Take it as fact,” Nicolussi posted. “Wests Tigers not in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them.”

Had Pangai agreed to the $600,000-a-season deal, one finds it hard to believe this ‘homework’ the Tigers did would have prevented him from joining the club immediately.

Whether Pangai ends up at Canterbury or stays at Brisbane is irrelevant. Wests Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe and coach Michael Maguire have now been left at the altar too many times and are desperate to avoid looking out of their depth.

How many more times can they convince fans that smart business, not a shortcoming in the club's recruitment ability, is the reason for not landing a player?

Perception is reality, and as a result established players at rival teams aren’t in a hurry to jump into bed with the club unless there is no other option.

They’ve recruited well when it comes to young talent - with Daine Laurie, Stefano Utoikamanu and Shawn Blore impressing - but it’s a strategy that has been forced upon them due to the reluctance of the game’s bigger names to link with Maguire at the Tigers.

The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.

Maguire has been at the helm of the Tigers for three years. Some would argue the club has gone backwards during that time.

Sunday’s loss to the Rabbitohs only adds to the pressure on Maguire to keep his job. No doubt someone will use the second-half performance as justification as to why they still believe in the coach and that it’s the players’ fault.

It's unlikely anything will happen in regards to Maguire's future before Tim Sheens arrives later this month to run his eye over the club.

Maguire was brought to the Tigers to instil a resilience and toughness that has been lacking at the club for some years, yet after 16 weeks he has presided over the worst defensive team in the club’s history, conceding more points per game than ever before. Five wins from 16 games is also one of the club's worst starts to a season.

Things are equally grim at the Bulldogs, however the difference between the two clubs is that within a few months of taking the job, Barrett has been able to offer fans some light at the end of the tunnel through his recruitment. Matt Burton, Josh Addo-Carr, Brent Naden and now perhaps Pangai jnr are all heading to Belmore.

All the Tigers have been able to offer is the nostalgia of Sheens' return. It's hard to see the light if you're a Tigers fan. There’s only so long club officials can keep blaming Ivan Cleary.

Just a quick check, some other players who share the same agent as Hastings and Gildart are To'o, Ferguson, Junior Paulo, Connor Tracey, Clint Gutherson, Tupou, Harley Smith Shields, Hudons Young, Koroibete, Stephen Crichton...

https://ultramanagement.com.au/players/

Getting in good with this guy could be advantageous.

 

[happy_tiger]

Again watch Bennetts presser ....was he angling for a job at the WT's .........

I saw it as having a dig at the Tigers.

'How some players are treated...' IE How Benji was treated by us?

Lol. Wayne used to move on players close to retirement all the time at the Broncos.

Lewis ,Langer ,Kerrod Walters , Miles , Gilly etc etc etc .....

Bennys favourite comment ....." I hire them ...I fire them"

 

[Snake]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

I disagree. He's failed and the money available should be used by the new coach.

The club has no option but to sign a new coach for next season ..after 3 seasons of failure a club that takes any due diligence seriously has no option .
Does anyone that supports this club honestly think next season will be any different with a couple of additions only ..there is only one option and that is to replace Maguire !

 

[TillLindemann]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

We've missed every target and there's not really anyone decent left. It's not all Madge's fault players won't come here but we aren't signing any current stars for 2022

Fair point, but that applies to whoever has this dreadful job of coaching us in 2022.

 

[Sabre]

Wonder if Bennett would come as an assistant coach. Wouldn’t have the same pressure as being a head coach.
If we still suck he won’t get blamed. But if we go alright, people will attribute it to him pulling the strings.

 

[cochise]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

And if there is no improvement this time next year the next coach has the same excuse

 

[cochise]

An exclusive. Wayne Bennett ?

Bennett wont come here


Actually has a soft spot for the Tigers. I think he was a Balmain fan.

Ive seen him twice at Leichhardt on days his team wasnt playing.

This is a long term project, I don't think he is up for a long term project.

 

[TillLindemann]

If we get rid of yet another coach, and start the merry go round all over again, and this time try a cheat, that will do me.

We have money available now though, not a terrible time to make a change.

I think it's an unfair time to change - Madge walked into a salary cap screwed by Reynolds, Packer, Mbye, and not helped by the Farah penalty - but is punted right when there's money to spend.

And if there is no improvement this time next year the next coach has the same excuse

They won't really though, because now we are being disciplined in what we're offering - to the extent people are complaing we should offer more to get deals over the line. We can't compare current signings to the cap negligence of the Cleary period.

 

[hobbo1]

Madge will be coach in 2022