WOULD YOU VACCINATE TO BE ABLE TO WATCH SPORTS

[Trevros]

I wonder if I will even be allowed to go to the shops later in the year because I will never allow untested drugs into my body? So much for a free country hey?

 

[cochise]

I wonder if I will even be allowed to go to the shops later in the year because I will never allow untested drugs into my body? So much for a free country hey?

Untested?

 

[Trevros]

Untested?

Well what are the long term effects of an untested drug that changes your own DNA?

 

[cochise]

Untested?

Well what are the long term effects of an untested drug that changes your own DNA?

Mate you really shouldn't post stuff like this, there is not one part of this post that is factual.

I'll will state this very clearly, the covid 19 vaccines do not alter your DNA and anyone claiming it does should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[innsaneink]

Why discriminate against people if your vaccinated you have your shield wrapped around you

And why would Business discriminate against making a dollar ? 40 percent won't get vaccinated

In basic terms there are groups of people that are unable to be vaccinated for valid reasons including their age, alergies, being immunocompromised etc. who are at high risk if they get ill.

That is what shits me about people who refuse vaccination talking about their right to personal freedom and their right to choose. I absolutely agree with those rights, as long as they live somewhere where they are completely self sufficient and have no interaction with other humans that do not share their beliefs.

Most kids that die from whooping cough are too young to be vaccinated and have picked it up from someone wandering around in the community with it who has chosen not to be vaccinated because they consider the risk to themselves low.

If you vaccinated it does not stop you from getting Covid or passing it on so you will still hurt the people you mentioned

It does not stop 100% but greatly improves your chances of catching it (80% less likely to catch it) and if you have it the viral load is much lower which reduces your chances of passing it on.

Forget going to the movies & sports, if you were living with someone undergoing chemo would you get vaccinated against those illnesses you could to reduce the chances of you getting one of them and passing it on to someone that was unable to fight it off?

Iam living with someone going through chemo and yes I have had two jabs and so has my wife who is going through chemo.

Best of luck SC to you and your better half in these trying times

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Untested?

Well what are the long term effects of an untested drug that changes your own DNA?

well no shops or restaurants cinemas or footy or concerts for you then mate, enjoy life

 

[Tiger Beach]

Otherwise you’ll need to stay out of the debate about vaccine passports, because it’s coming and it’s ugly

Yep. This is the big issue and it's coming. People are railing against the facts right now. The facts are what they are. It's the policy implications in relation to the facts that are the big deal.

Atm it's pretty clear that the majority will get vaccinated and the unvaccinated will be legally discriminated against all over the place.

“Legal discrimination” never ends well for any society

 

[TheDaBoss]

Just talk to your local gp 😑😑 not some wannabe doctor hobob online from SA...

Your GP would give u all the correct info how U SHOULD proceed

 

[happy_tiger]

Will the club medicate me if I agree to vaccinate

Only fair ...isn't it

 

[avocadoontoast]

WestsTigers Forum proudly sponsered by The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation..

Might be time to change your user name because Bill and Melinda also have a pretty massive shareholding in Coca Cola

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Footy no
Concerts yes

 

[earl]

Otherwise you’ll need to stay out of the debate about vaccine passports, because it’s coming and it’s ugly

Yep. This is the big issue and it's coming. People are railing against the facts right now. The facts are what they are. It's the policy implications in relation to the facts that are the big deal.

Atm it's pretty clear that the majority will get vaccinated and the unvaccinated will be legally discriminated against all over the place.

“Legal discrimination” never ends well for any society

Nonsense. It is part of all sorts of policies now. Aboriginals receive positive discrimination. Women do as well. The thing is these types of discrimination are much less obvious and extreme as what is now being implemented across the world in relation to the unvaccinated.

Personally I don't like it but I don't see any other option.

As a fully vaccinated individual why should I have to suffer through lockdowns and restrictions when I'm not the problem. Why not just discriminate against the people who have chosen to do the wrong thing. It's like telling me I can't drive because other people drink and drive. That is their choice not mine and I shouldn't be discriminated for their bad choices.

Anyway this is happening now. I suggest you get on the smart train rather than choose the dumb option.

This is what the French President stated:-

“I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.”

 

[DJG]

No, I wont get it until I have to get it.


Why? And what would make you 'have to get it'?

I'd like to see what happens with it all in 5-10 years..

Who knows what the side effects will be..

If its all 100% proven without any problems, I will take it.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Will not be getting the experimental jab. As Harvey alluded to, it does not work the way a normal safe vaccine works. A vaccine normally offers 2 things:
1. Immunity
2. Stop transmission

This jab does neither.

There is alao NO data on long term effects of the jab. Some experts are saying it may cause auto immune disorders, alzheimers in the elderly and blood clots leading to death (this we already know).

Unfortunately alot of this information (while available), is being heavily censored.

Please don't misquote me. No vaccination offers complete immunity to catching an illness, they stimulate your immune system so that you are able to fight the virus off before it can do serious damage.

Thats what immunity is. Teaching your antibodies to attack the antigen. This jab does not do this in that way. It causes RNA to create the spike protein. **There has never been a vaccine that works in this way**

Wrong.

mRNA vaccine technology has been used in cancer vaccines since 2011. So there's ten years of data on what the longer term effects of mRNA vaccines are, if any.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Otherwise you’ll need to stay out of the debate about vaccine passports, because it’s coming and it’s ugly

Yep. This is the big issue and it's coming. People are railing against the facts right now. The facts are what they are. It's the policy implications in relation to the facts that are the big deal.

Atm it's pretty clear that the majority will get vaccinated and the unvaccinated will be legally discriminated against all over the place.

“Legal discrimination” never ends well for any society

Nonsense. It is part of all sorts of policies now. Aboriginals receive positive discrimination. Women do as well. The thing is these types of discrimination are much less obvious and extreme as what is now being implemented across the world in relation to the unvaccinated.

Personally I don't like it but I don't see any other option.

As a fully vaccinated individual why should I have to suffer through lockdowns and restrictions when I'm not the problem. Why not just discriminate against the people who have chosen to do the wrong thing. It's like telling me I can't drive because other people drink and drive. That is their choice not mine and I shouldn't be discriminated for their bad choices.

Anyway this is happening now. I suggest you get on the smart train rather than choose the dumb option.

This is what the French President stated:-

“I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.”

Lockdowns won't end regardless now they have them well established as a control tool. Take a look at Iceland which endured 15 months of restrictions and then had all restrictions lifted after they got their vaccination rate to 90%. Four weeks later the restrictions returned

They promise "freedoms" to encourage take up of the vaxx, nothing more

Whilst that "quote" does sound like something Macron might say with it's focus on the effect on him and his family over the interests of the French people he is supposed to lead, it is not something he said. I'll leave it for you to investigate but trusting Fitzy as a reliable source of quotes isn't always the best method

 

[philgood]

Will not be getting the experimental jab. As Harvey alluded to, it does not work the way a normal safe vaccine works. A vaccine normally offers 2 things:
1. Immunity
2. Stop transmission

This jab does neither.

There is alao NO data on long term effects of the jab. Some experts are saying it may cause auto immune disorders, alzheimers in the elderly and blood clots leading to death (this we already know).

Unfortunately alot of this information (while available), is being heavily censored.

Please don't misquote me. No vaccination offers complete immunity to catching an illness, they stimulate your immune system so that you are able to fight the virus off before it can do serious damage.

Thats what immunity is. Teaching your antibodies to attack the antigen. This jab does not do this in that way. It causes RNA to create the spike protein. **There has never been a vaccine that works in this way**

Wrong.

mRNA vaccine technology has been used in cancer vaccines since 2011. So there's ten years of data on what the longer term effects of mRNA vaccines are, if any.

Incorrect. The Covid vaccine is the first vaccine where the spike protein has been produced to induce an immune response. There is NO long term data on this.
Wonder why this has been taken off youtube? Oh yeah 'misinformation ' because it doesn't fit it with the multi billion dollar pharmaceutical narrative

https://www.facebook.com/107999601094256/posts/265110438716504/

 

[cochise]

Otherwise you’ll need to stay out of the debate about vaccine passports, because it’s coming and it’s ugly

Yep. This is the big issue and it's coming. People are railing against the facts right now. The facts are what they are. It's the policy implications in relation to the facts that are the big deal.

Atm it's pretty clear that the majority will get vaccinated and the unvaccinated will be legally discriminated against all over the place.

“Legal discrimination” never ends well for any society

Nonsense. It is part of all sorts of policies now. Aboriginals receive positive discrimination. Women do as well. The thing is these types of discrimination are much less obvious and extreme as what is now being implemented across the world in relation to the unvaccinated.

Personally I don't like it but I don't see any other option.

As a fully vaccinated individual why should I have to suffer through lockdowns and restrictions when I'm not the problem. Why not just discriminate against the people who have chosen to do the wrong thing. It's like telling me I can't drive because other people drink and drive. That is their choice not mine and I shouldn't be discriminated for their bad choices.

Anyway this is happening now. I suggest you get on the smart train rather than choose the dumb option.

This is what the French President stated:-

“I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.”

Lockdowns won't end regardless now they have them well established as a control tool. Take a look at Iceland which endured 15 months of restrictions and then had all restrictions lifted after they got their vaccination rate to 90%. Four weeks later the restrictions returned

They promise "freedoms" to encourage take up of the vaxx, nothing more

Whilst that "quote" does sound like something Macron might say with it's focus on the effect on him and his family over the interests of the French people he is supposed to lead, it is not something he said. I'll leave it for you to investigate but trusting Fitzy as a reliable source of quotes isn't always the best method

So your belief is that governments all over the world are going to drive their economies into the ground to "control" the populous? Also if the vaccination doesn't protect the people why do you feel they are trying to encourage people to take up the vaxx with this promise of freedoms?

 

[Masterton]

So your belief is that governments all over the world are going to drive their economies into the ground to “control” the populous?

I don't much comment on these threads because no one changes their minds BUT this hits the nail on the head. Governments' main goals are money and getting voted in at the next election. They don't give a damn about keeping people at home to "control" them. It's a paranoid fantasy.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Otherwise you’ll need to stay out of the debate about vaccine passports, because it’s coming and it’s ugly

Yep. This is the big issue and it's coming. People are railing against the facts right now. The facts are what they are. It's the policy implications in relation to the facts that are the big deal.

Atm it's pretty clear that the majority will get vaccinated and the unvaccinated will be legally discriminated against all over the place.

“Legal discrimination” never ends well for any society

Nonsense. It is part of all sorts of policies now. Aboriginals receive positive discrimination. Women do as well. The thing is these types of discrimination are much less obvious and extreme as what is now being implemented across the world in relation to the unvaccinated.

Personally I don't like it but I don't see any other option.

As a fully vaccinated individual why should I have to suffer through lockdowns and restrictions when I'm not the problem. Why not just discriminate against the people who have chosen to do the wrong thing. It's like telling me I can't drive because other people drink and drive. That is their choice not mine and I shouldn't be discriminated for their bad choices.

Anyway this is happening now. I suggest you get on the smart train rather than choose the dumb option.

This is what the French President stated:-

“I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.”

Lockdowns won't end regardless now they have them well established as a control tool. Take a look at Iceland which endured 15 months of restrictions and then had all restrictions lifted after they got their vaccination rate to 90%. Four weeks later the restrictions returned

They promise "freedoms" to encourage take up of the vaxx, nothing more

Whilst that "quote" does sound like something Macron might say with it's focus on the effect on him and his family over the interests of the French people he is supposed to lead, it is not something he said. I'll leave it for you to investigate but trusting Fitzy as a reliable source of quotes isn't always the best method

So your belief is that governments all over the world are going to drive their economies into the ground to "control" the populous? Also if the vaccination doesn't protect the people why do you feel they are trying to encourage people to take up the vaxx with this promise of freedoms?

Your first sentence is not anything I said, it is your interpretation. But I do believe this is very much about control and a crashed economy, which you raised, does enhance the ability for greater centralised control

I have seen no clear evidence whether the vaccine protects peole or not, but the second part of your question is the one everyone should be asking and thinking about

**"..... why do you feel they are trying to encourage people to take up the vaxx with this promise of freedoms?"**

 

[avocadoontoast]

No, I wont get it until I have to get it.


Why? And what would make you 'have to get it'?

I'd like to see what happens with it all in 5-10 years..

Who knows what the side effects will be..

If its all 100% proven without any problems, I will take it.

No offence but if everyone had your attitude we’d be absolutely screwed forever.