This is the crux of it. I'm not fussed about a random holiday - it's the remainder of his tenure that should have people asking questions.
The Farah/salary cap saga should have been a sackable offence in itself.
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The Farah/salary cap saga should have been a sackable offence in itself.
Do we have a CFO? Pretty sure he/she is responsible for the financial strategic direction and profit of the organisation. Justin overseas everything however and although financially we might be ok, performance wise on the field is where we all know it is. The CEO takes the heat for everything in my book.
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They could offer him more than we could...
better environment and coach to nurture his talent.
I also don't think he ends up the same player if he stays.
(I feel Sydney isn't the best place for JAC - Time will tell)
I also saw his last game in our colours - He was woeful....
Ok, Sorry, my misunderstanding. You're possibly right there. But no one, not even the Storm would have realised where JAC was going in his career to be fair.
I think he's very much doing that - They all are - We all are....
But they've obviously got a plan.... We can't be any worse off seeing it through.
We can't turn around and go back, Only way out is through...
I guess that's a matter of perception...
3 of the 6 years he's had the job - We've finished higher on the ladder than the 4 years before he came.... And all 6 years better than 2/4 before he came...
There's no mathematical equation that amounts to that to being worse...
(Wooden spoon this year could well change that)
I see massive progression in other areas - And much of the same / same on field.
I also see juniors looking better than they have for a very long time, I also see 2 top tier players recruited (Which hasn't happened in forever).
I just don't think it's as bad as it's made out to be....
If we win the 2 games we should have won... All these forum rants are very, very different.
BAGNF05
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Talent identification not under his umbrella either? Does he just open the mail?
BAGNF05
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You seem to have the same low standards as him. You only need to win 50% of your games to be considered a success in the NRL. Even a bad club should fluke that every so often.
We are currently playing no better than a park football side, and no marquee player is going to touch us. Don’t be surprised if the two good players we have somehow managed to jag are currently having a rethink.
But carry on being the eternal optimist. I understand change is hard for some people.
hank37w
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Pretty much agree with what you are saying.
I know I put up a post about Pascoe and his 6 month ban and the cap hit we got for 2 seasons, but that's just me having a bit of a stir and a laugh.
The club was treated very harshly over that matter when everyone knew what was said and what was offered, after all it was all over the media.
Shit management and persecution by the NRL when all that was needed to be done was make a phone call and ask to have that put in writing and submitted to the NRL just for the record. Its not like it was some secret underhanded deal being done on the quiet.
I was really surprised that Pascoe kept his position after that and it showed a lack of experience and naivety on his part, but he kept his job and I would assume the reason being that he is generally good at what he does even if he looks like an unmade bed.
I agree that he should look after the financial side of things and have a very limited, if anything to do with the football side of things. One thing that irritated me was the amount of meddling and messing around the recruitment area that Pascoe and Gadget were getting involved with when it came to previous potential signings.
Sheens is here now to take on that kind of responsibility and just leave him to do it and my personal view is that he is the best person at the moment to handle the recruitment, pathway side of things as well as being the best to handle the media circus.
It wouldn't matter when Pascoe took a break, someone would find some sort of a problem with it. The kind of stuff that Pascoe is responsible for can be done from anywhere if need be as long as there is an internet connection or phone service available.
I personally don't have a problem with Pascoe's Northern Territory Croc tour, sure we have had probably our worst start to a season and no one knows where our first win (if any) is coming from which has the media in a frenzy, but it's not Pascoe's job to catch the ball, make a tackle or score a try.
The biggest croc is some of the comments being generated on this thread.
Not at all.... You're wrong. I hate losing and where we are probably more than anyone....
I just don't see anything any worse right now - Than it's ever been for Wests Tigers (Bar 3 years) in it's entire existence. (We seem to be arguing about a position or 2 either way at the bottom of the ladder...)
In fact - I see many things that have been a problem since 2000 have been rectified under the current administration, With some more positives on the horizon.
The way you all carry on - It's like we've been the Melbourne Storm for the last 20 years and have suddenly fell off a cliff into oblivion when Pascoe and Madge got here.
Everything about this place has been ordinary for the majority of ALL our lives!!
Our recruitment has always been ordinary - Even after being premiers.
Things have been way worse previously than they are now.
There's a lot of short memories here...
No, I'm not satisfied to be here - ever....
But I see changes in the Administration, The Club Structure, The Facilities, The Pathways, the Recruitment...
And that has to translate to on field results... Maybe not this year, Maybe not next....
But I believe it will bring results - Sustainable results. How can it not?
And that's what we're currently working towards...
I also believe, That in the off chance it doesn't, we "may" be marginally worse off than we've always bloody been.... Or the same as we've always been.
I don't see how that's going backwards.
I saw a quote recently that I liked.... Do you want it done properly, Or do you want it Monday.
I want it done properly..... We've never been done properly.
Fade.To.Black
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At least the flagpole would be straight👍. He's all over the important things such as that.
Snidest 0
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Eternal Tiger
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Core focus is supposed to be winning games. He's never overseen that. Had 7 cracks at it.
Snidest 0
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We'll forget the 2 years of cap penalties + 6 figure fine + 6 months paid holiday this fraud of a CEO incurred on the club through his own basic incompetence!!
Or the fact that the one year we made a profit this all went to front office staff as a bonus (despite our crap season on the field) - leaving us in the red for that FY after paying the aforementioned fine??
Great corporate governance & fiscal management my sphincter!
gallagher
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There's been a few Mondays since this clown come on board but we'll wait a few more for him to do it right.
gallagher
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It's getting fixed Monday.
Tiger_Fanatic3
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LeichhardtTiger
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So, that's where Pascoe gets his hair done! 🤪
Viking Warrior
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It's incompetent and unprofessional that his leave was even granted in the first place, the only reason imo we should accept such a request would be if it was from stress or illness.
The fish rots from the head we bang on about the players not caring or putting in but why should they give a crap look at the example management is setting.
Reeks of patting themselves on the head on and not prepared to roll there sleeves up and accept there roll in all this.
I am actually starting to sympathise for Madge he is the one wearing the brunt when one of our main leader and decision maker is sipping pina coladas on a beach somewhere.
