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I agree, so let's stop dicking around and get it done so we can concentrate on recruiting.
Wests Tigers Coaches
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You've added two of the top 5-10 players in the game.
I reckon JT would have that team in finals contention.
If only it were that easy.
Telltails I love your input but have to disagree on the last part,Benji and Farah were part of Sheens getting the axe,they both left the club to do better elsewhere,Farah got Potter not renewed because he couldnt coach...Benji and Farah have always been about themselves and thought they were the club...Ellis,Tuiaki.Hodgeson and others I can name contributed to the team and club as well over the years but because they werent juniors then Marshal and Farah are the greatest because they were...
I suspect this may always have been his plan
BAGNF05
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Clearly not easy but Sheens has recruited game changers for us long ago. Maybe there’s still some magic dust there.
A more identifiable scenario is
More relatable was when the club was considering signing Willie Mason.
The leaks to the public ended up drawing a line in the sand in for that potential acquisition
The speed of the game,a more defensive structured game,a lot more focus on the kicking game,HIA rules,line speed...the game has changed as has the rules bangf05..
Marshall and Farah could make it as coaches in about 3/4 years with plenty of learning.Sheens will have to adapt to the new NRL compared to when he coached...
This is why I said we need fresh ideas ...Some one on here said that teams work players out,Sheens has to do all the work on the teams we are going to play and has to get players that can play to gameplans and structures as well as have the smarts to know what goes on around them...if you notice in some of our games Hastings called the play and was looking for players running off him but they werent there,so in my opinion they have to learn to support the ball carrier its part of the game and a priority in making ground..Im sure Sheens could coach that,but why have some of our guys not got that in their heads most of this year...my point is we need a quality roster that Sheens can coach and not have to teach the basics to for 2 years...
Just think TT we need the perception of the club to change, and having arguably the two most high profile players we have produced involved, is a positive in changing the narrative that WTs is not a club for players to build a future at. Players starting their career need to see that there is a "pathway" to success and Farah and Benji are proof of it. I can see value in it moving forward especially when very few other influential figures in the game want a bar of us. Just my view and well aware of your reservations in relation to their involvement.
TSP
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This.
And a greater need to be in command of the things we can control such as reduced errors, discipline, and getting through our sets.
All the top sides are very sharp in this respect but apart from odd phases, we haven’t been able to resolve this.
Very frustrating too when we kick for no result or threat, straight to their fullback and our fifth tackle options close to their line are sleepy.
Our attack is in shreds at the moment, we can seem to defend for 65 minutes, but what for?
Never enough bodies in motion, switches or decoys, like we are playing 20th century footy in a game that’s moved on.
And the mind set and resilience is still absent. If we could build that into our heads, we’d be playing a lot better.
I think as troubled as our current roster is, they can be playing a lot better. We see it in patches.
The kids were wonderful last weekend, so a glimmer with the right coaching.
Do we have 2 years?
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TurnStyle
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Lol at the Fitzy reference - I'd forgotten about that! He must have played every position in the backs one year! 🤣
Also, can't wait for the old "split the pack in half after a scrum feed and have the lock run straight into the opposition front row still standing there" play!
Catchy huh...
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Batmans Parents
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This could work if Sheens was bringing Morris in as an assistant to take over in 2024-25.
Which is very unlikely. Instead we are likely getting the boys club part 2 and we have the dumb seals on here clapping for it. Unbelievable.
Which is very unlikely. Instead we are likely getting the boys club part 2 and we have the dumb seals on here clapping for it. Unbelievable.
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TurnStyle
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That's what forums are for, and I respect your opinion and how you disagreed. 😊
If they have tried to emulate the Storm (unsuccessfully), at least they were trying to follow a winning formula.
I can't see how having Sheens, Farah and Marshall running things is in any way progressive. Rather, it seems the antithesis to me.
I also think those are three pretty big egos there with a fair amount of not so rosy history.
It would have to create a competitive environment within the coaching ranks and I can't see that helping the club. There's enough going on as it is!
The whole concept to me feels desperate and like getting back together with an ex from 10 years ago. Not long after you remember there was good reason you broke up. It never works.
I think Cronk is a complete change of tack from the norm (let's poach the best assistant around) and a prospect with a lot of potential.
He was also undisputedly a far better player than Farah and Marshall and his knowledge of the game is just crazy.
The club has shown it has very promising young players coming along very nicely and I think after a couple of years both they and Cronk would see the team in a way better position than they are now or would be with the '05 Three.
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liltiger
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My favourite thing is when they laugh about how bad the club is because of all the leaks coming out of it, yet the scumbags never reveal who at the club is leaking the info to them.
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liltiger
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If sheens does come back I hope he does well but at his age I hope this joint doesn't kill him.
Look, as stated previously I’d be happy with Flano, he’s exactly what this club needs. But for what ever reason it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen, either sheens ego or the lawyer firm won’t allow it. Out of what’s left sheens is the right move, only in a semi custodial role to pass the torch.
Funny isn’t it that there is no media attention at the dogs about their coaching issues. Secretly there working there way to sign Ciraldo behind closed doors with no media pressure!! Good luck Ziraldo they looked after your mate Trent real well didn’t they..,
Funny isn’t it that there is no media attention at the dogs about their coaching issues. Secretly there working there way to sign Ciraldo behind closed doors with no media pressure!! Good luck Ziraldo they looked after your mate Trent real well didn’t they..,
innsaneink
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I guess plan C is better than plan D & E... But reactionary measure like we always do rarely work out
liltiger
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Ciraldo might sign at the Dogs thinking he will benefit from Gould's hard work in developing their pathways and recruitment, just like Cleary has. Although Barrett didn't work out, the writing was on the wall as soon as Gould got there he said he would assess the situation 3 months in, which pretty much sums up he wanted a different coach from the get go, or there would be nothing to consider imo.
finnzo
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I think we are all forgetting this wasn’t the clubs first second or third option the first 3 options must have knocked us back for us to be in this position ciraldo Morris and Wolfe so options at the moment are probably sheens flano green and out of the left over I’m choosing sheens every day of the week
pawsandclaws1
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Have offers been made to Morris or Woolf? There is no information out of the club other than the press speculation that Sheens may coach if asked to do so. But again, that is purely speculation at this time.
