Wests Tigers Coaches

[weststigerman]

He said he recommended punting Maguire because he couldn't see him at the club in 3 years. Then signs a 2 year deal potentially.

I think thats more to do with Plan A, B, and C knocking us back.

 

[Newtown]

Would he able to handle the media better than any coach yet lol

At least the club won't have to put up a Madge formula inspired self mockamentry

 

[tigerap]

I don’t think any club wants Flanagan

He is viewed as being no different to Madge.....

 

[WT2K]

Time to put this thread to bed and get onboard with the Sheenius that is about to unfold on our club....
At least now we can move in a direction....forward or backward time will tell.

As Sharon would say: it is what it is.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

A result or two that went against us would see us above where we are....Titans game rings a very unfortunate bell.
We could be like that disastrous Knights team that only won one game and got belted every week. Now that would be backwards

Reality is they didn’t, results aren’t built from what ifs they are based on what did.

We are last, media flurry all over us daily & No coach wants us.

We are at rock bottom right now.

 

[liltiger]

I think thats more to do with Plan A, B, and C knocking us back.

Your prob right, I didn't consider that, if he does take over I really hope he does well, iv a huge soft spot for sheens just really hope whoever works under him is the best man for the job not just best man for the positive press.

 

[finnzo]

Surley the club takes a good look at its self after this and asks itself why don’t any notable coaches want to come here?

 

[TillLindemann]

If Sheens gets a 2 year deal, then if we're lucky we have about 6 months before the instability and frenzied speculation over who replaces him kicks in. You need a coach lined up well before the 2 years is up. will it be back to Noddy? Ask Cameron again and hope he says yes this time? Surely we are not dumb enough to install Blues Bunny Benji in 2 years, there would be media leaks on an hourly basis.

 

[Newtown]

I think having Sheens as coach could work. I can remember Canberra winning the comp with Don Furner as co-coach with a young assistant named Wayne Bennett. Sheens with Benji, Robbie or whoever might just be the right move

Sheens as coach will work. He most likely has ready to be signed. Let's go and not waste any more time whilst these signings are available. for the sake of the club it cannot wait any longer.

 

[liltiger]

H

He couldn’t get the 5 year deal huh?

He refused to offer it to himself, he knew he would refuse to agree to it.

 

[weststigerman]

Surley the club takes a good look at its self after this and asks itself why don’t any notable coaches want to come here?

You can apply that to players too. People blamed Maguire for that.

Reality is the club is a mess, that's why no one wants to be here.

 

[Krammy]

Really, 95% of stuff-ups are Board and management decisions? Not the on-field performances and coaching strategies?

Tigers are financially in a pretty good position, so really the only thing that is failing right now is football operations, and it appears they have invested quite heavily in pathways recently, to arrest some issues with junior development.

Therefore if we park pathways to the side for a moment, the major ongoing issues are on-field performance (measured on a weekly basis) and overall recruitment ability (measured over years). But not just recruitment "decisions", I mean recruitment "ability", because many recruitment outcomes are based on the club's ability to compete in the market rather than specific poor decisions.

Honestly I fail to see how 95% of our problems/mistakes over 22 seasons are Board-related, because Tigers have significantly overturned the management and board over this period (a natural cycling of employees).

No, I think there's something baked into the Tigers DNA that prevents us from achieving sustained success, and we haven't hit upon the right combination of strategies and personnel to lift that curse for long enough to establish a foundation of success.

Personally however, I think the NRL has developed to a point where there is baked-in (unintentional) prejudice against struggling clubs. This is prejudice emerging from constant competition between clubs, not some kind of intentional bias. It's a survival-of-fittest scenario in 2022, because modern players will tend to accept lower pay for higher success, inclusive of all the other perks: (a) rep match payments, (b) personal brand and sponsorship, (c) likely existence of illegal side-payments or TPAs.

Of course a successful club is going to find it easier to get benefactors to agree to part with their cash, in the wide variety of ways that a player can be enticed, so players are consistently incentivised to play for successful teams, which tends to keep those teams successful.

It all becomes rather obvious when you look at the finals records of clubs since ~2010, where Tigers, Warriors, Dragons, Titans, Bulldogs, Knights all have approx the same level of non-success. That's 6 clubs you can usually bank on finishing Bottom 8 every year, and that "bankability" tells you that the system has become lopsided.

Again I don't believe the NRL has done this intentionally, because it is in the NRL's best interest for every club to have a successful period near the top of the game - it's the best outcome for every metric the NRL cares about (sponsorship, ticket sales, memberships, TV viewership, junior participation etc.) The reason for this is teams who often fail will never maximise their financial support potential, whereas teams who often win will experience a financial plateau as their fans get used to winning. So it's best for there to be fluctuating fortunes, to keep all fans highly engaged and hungry for a short-term return to success.

Great points Jirskyr,
Totally agree that the 6 clubs you mentioned have almost become bankable Bottom 8 teams. Now that we are not a mess financially, we need a circuit breaker to lift from this unintended prejudice. Again, what happens with the coaching choice over the next couple of years is critical.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He is viewed as being no different to Madge.....

Sounds about right. I‘ve said a few times, he’s no better of an option than Madge was when he was appointed.

 

[hsvjones]

I clarified who the 4 were.

Im not having a go at Tigerap, I have no beef with him, but I come here to share this information and a handful of people come here including Tigerap & Pom to say I was lying. Others said I was FOS. As you can all see, I wasnt lying nor am I FOS.

I have no problem with the Pom saying I was wrong, like I said I know who he is and he is legit but he didnt have all the info, I did. I dont know who Tigerap is.

I expect people to say Im wrong or full of it, thats the nature of forums, but to try to take credit for my information when you previously said it was not true is a bit rich.

Do you know when this will be announced?
I am all for this Sheen thing now and I bet if a coach pops up in the 2 years he might step back and hand the reigns over.. He is the best option now considering how we are looking but I have a feeling in 2 years CC might regret not coming on board.

 

[Newtown]

If Sheens gets a 2 year deal, then if we're lucky we have about 6 months before the instability and frenzied speculation over who replaces him kicks in. You need a coach lined up well before the 2 years is up. will it be back to Noddy? Ask Cameron again and hope he says yes this time? Surely we are not dumb enough to install Blues Bunny Benji in 2 years, there would be media leaks on an hourly basis.

Let the club take one step at a time, whenever and if ever needed. The decision has been made and we didn't end up with another Jason Taylor.

 

[TillLindemann]

He is viewed as being no different to Madge.....

Yes they have both won a premiership, we don't want that kind of riff raff here. Only geriatrics or L Platers may apply.

 

[TillLindemann]

Let the club take one step at a time, whenever and if ever needed. The decision has been made and we didn't end up with another Jason Taylor.

As Confucius said, can't take one step at a time if you're legless.

 

[OzLuke]

Reality is they didn’t, results aren’t built from what ifs they are based on what did.

We are last, media flurry all over us daily & No coach wants us.

We are at rock bottom right now.

Whilst the game is majority skill etc, a good chunk comes down to luck and we haven't had any.

Let the club take one step at a time, whenever and if ever needed. The decision has been made and we didn't end up with another Jason Taylor.

Or another Trent Barrett...

 

[earl]

You need a coach lined up well before the 2 years is up. will it be back to Noddy?

They need a succession plan with a couple of options. We have Cayless, Benji, Robbie, Lambkin and probably more waiting in the wings. It shouldn't be that hard to not have to recruit a coach into the role after Sheens goes assuming he gets the job.

I still think the coach is not that important assuming we also have a recruitment and retention team/committee and a good system of bringing junior players into the top grade.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

That's a reflection on you.

Says the person who believes Bronson Xerri isn't personally repsonsible for PED usage... 🙄