Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jirskyr]

Not an argument

Well actually it is an argument, because the guy is literally a professional, firstly, because he's officially employed as a professional football coach.

Secondly he played over 150 first grade games and coached over 700 FG matches in Australia, plus another 58 in UK. So I've never heard of an amateur who has managed a 40-year professional career and literally coached more first grade matches than anyone except Wayne Bennett.

Again, if you disagree with the man that's fine, but he knows what he is doing and he runs a tight ship. It doesn't mean he is right or will be vindicated with performances in 2023, but it does mean he knows how to professionally coach a football club.

 

[jirskyr]

Jumped on and had a read of the last 20 pages tonight. Imagine being a potential club player or new wests staff member that jumps on here to see what the tigers fan base is like prior to signing. I’m embarrassed to even think about it. We won’t be building a winning culture with you all death riding your own club. Maybe I’ll check out that other forum.

Oh word of warning that 99% of clubs have fan bases that death-ride the club.

Probably only Penrith and Storm get away with long-term preening.

 

[TonyTiger]

Luke Brooks is the most unsuccessful player in Rugby league history. Fact

And one of the best remunerated - go figure!

 

[twentyforty]

Luke Brooks is the most unsuccessful player in Rugby league history. Fact

And he’s been arguably our best player, having won the player of the year award 3 of the last 5 years.
Does anyone see that as an issue?

 

[twentyforty]

Just a few thoughts.

• If it's actually true about Doueihi managing himself and really asking for $900k per season then he needs to go for a career HIA. Did his acl at the worst possible time contract wise and needs to win the Dally M next year for that to be anywhere near realistic. I think he seriously needs help from a grown up.
• Is there something I've missed re Hastings? He has been great for the tigers and to me has seemed to be nothing less than a great player and leader, plus he's only 26?! Is he a negative influence on the squad? Divisive personality? Just seems like a good guy to me as well and I'm pretty bemused by how the club seems to be treating him.
• Does anyone think the tigers are going to get anything more out of Klemmer than the Knights? Apart from cap space I don't see much else to be excited about by swapping Hastings for him and I doubt this would free up much in any case.

It’s difficult to know what’s going on with the Hastings situation? It seems really odd to me that the club “publicly” make all the moves indicating they are trying to develop on field leadership, but have a history of moving on those players who display this type of behaviour?
Could this be the reason Brooks’ love for playing with the club makes him not too keen on a leadership role? Is that the job which inches you closer to the exit door? 🤣

 

[Roar_Power]

It’s difficult to know what’s going on with the Hastings situation? It seems really odd to me that the club “publicly” make all the moves indicating they are trying to develop on field leadership, but have a history of moving on those players who display this type of behaviour?
Could this be the reason Brooks’ love for playing with the club makes him not too keen on a leadership role? Is that the job which inches you closer to the exit door? 🤣

I think its purely positional. Hastings is too slow for halfback. He is a great organiser and has the attributes for lock where he can use his skills to link the forwards to the backs - he can be a bit slower in this position too. There is just a divide between where Hastings thinks he should play and where WT see his best fit. Similar a little too Doueihi who many feel is a talented centre but yet to prove himself in the halves.

 

[Cobarcats]

I think its purely positional. Hastings is too slow for halfback. He is a great organiser and has the attributes for lock where he can use his skills to link the forwards to the backs - he can be a bit slower in this position too. There is just a divide between where Hastings thinks he should play and where WT see his best fit. Similar a little too Doueihi who many feel is a talented centre but yet to prove himself in the halves.

I think we'll see JH and AD gone if not this year it might be next year.
I'd like to see a quicker ½'s pairing in Brooks Brown, Moses Brown.

 

[Tigerwould]

I think we'll see JH and AD gone if not this year it might be next year.
I'd like to see a quicker ½'s pairing in Brooks Brown, Moses Brown.

I’m a fan of AD & Hastings an don’t want to see either leave unless they are upgraded / replaced by a top shelf halfBack.

 

[Cobarcats]

Sleeve we don't want a repeat of yesterday where the thread got hijacked and members warned. In future off topic slinging matches must go to PM and sort it out in there.

 

[gregjm87]

Try not playing any finals footy. If you looked up failure in the NRL, his picture would be the first one to come up. Pearce actually played finals and represented Australia and NSW in Origin. Brooks has been nothing but a failure.

Which year in Brooks' career do you believe the Tigers would have played finals with a different halfback?

 

[Cobarcats]

I’m a fan of AD & Hastings an don’t want to see either leave unless they are upgraded / replaced by a top shelf halfBack.

I dont either mate, AD is not worth 800-900k and Brooks is clearly on Sheens Radar for his ½

 

[sleeve]

Sleeve we don't want a repeat of yesterday where the thread got hijacked and members warned. In future off topic slinging matches must go to PM and sort it out in there.

I apologise, and regret my attempt at humour.

 

[Cobarcats]

Hastings has played well at 13 for WTs and that is where Sheens wants him to play. Hastings believes he is a 7. There is a shortage of halves in the NRL. The Knights appeared to have missed Brooks. The media report the Knights have now approached Hastings.

Generally speaking, if a lock was paid more money than a halfback, Hastings probably would want to play lock.
It more about the money and prestige than anything else imo.

 

[Balmainian]

I haven't notice any clubs apart from the dolphins doing much in the player market.

Every club has been active.
Dragons have signed a few, roosters and Parra have been busy.

Why, because he hasn't won a comp?

Neither did Wayne Pearce.

I’d say the win loss ratio is a touch different between the two.

 

[innsaneink]

Generally speaking, if a lock was paid more money than a halfback, Hastings probably would want to play lock.
It more about the money and prestige than anything else imo.

According to Pascoe he doesn't like putting his body on the line

 

[Odessa]

The only club AD will make 900K at is the Dolphins no one else and I think the contract would have to start in 23

 

[Cobarcats]

According to Pascoe he doesn't like putting his body on the line

Pascoe, too small 🤣

 

[Cobarcats]

The only club AD will make 900K at is the Dolphins no one else and I think the contract would have to start in 23

I thought it was 800k, 900k is unbelievable imo.
I wonder if AD is wanting to be a manager full time.
If he pulls off the 900k over 3yrs then a lot of players might want his services 🤣

 

[sleeve]

I thought it was 800k, 900k is unbelievable imo.
I wonder if AD is wanting to be a manager full time.
If he pulls off the 900k over 3yrs then a lot of players might want his services 🤣

Could be the best direction for him, and maybe little alternative after 2023.

 

[Odessa]

Which year in Brooks' career do you believe the Tigers would have played finals with a different halfback?

Andrew John's could have done it but rettired or the two years of Taylor ball with Teddy still there but I think the best year would have been under Potter with Robbie Gate if that did not happen or left behind closed doors the team was heading to the semis

Taylor had a talented team but did very little with them it's a shame we did not get Clearly 1 year earlier to work with the group