Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Noggon]

Hastings played 16 games in 2022. We won 4 of them, two of them by one point in the last minute.

Robbed of one against a top 4 team too. Point is we looked like we were gaining momentum, getting a structure, developing belief and straight after his leg got broken, back to zero

 

[Yossarian]

It's amazing revisionism going on with the 2022 season. No matter how you dice it - whether you isolate the games with Hastings at halfback, or lock, it was one of the worst seasons ever and this guy was supposed to be one of our key leaders / ball handlers.

I'm not anti-Hastings and I would have been just fine keeping him on, but claims of him being our best player or compulsory to a turn-around in fortunes are an incredibly long stretch.

Certainly Hastings was one of our more vocal and earnest players in 2022, and I think that's what's convinced a portion of the fanbase that he was indispensable. But as you say - 4 wins from 16 is horrendous, no matter how one might try to analyse-out Hastings' culpability.

Anyway we'll have a very good litmus test 2022, because Knights aren't much better a side than Tigers and Hastings is being given the keys to that ship. If Knights have a red hot run 2022, or not, we'll have much more data for the discussion.

Agreed. I personally like Hastings but we were hardly a powerhouse when he played. Overall we nudged up from abysmal to woeful when he played.

 

[Telltails]

Hastings played 16 games in 2022. We won 4 of them, two of them by one point in the last minute.

None of our players who played this season were make or break players given our woeful position but some definitely offered more than others - Hastings probably fits into that category with most apart from a few who didnt/don't rate him.
It cant be ignored the decision makers who had a major bearing on our performance given the season was written off a little over halfway through the season. Can guarantee that decision will not be made next season regardless of how we are going.

 

[Yossarian]

Robbed of one against a top 4 team too. Point is we looked like we were gaining momentum, getting a structure, developing belief and straight after his leg got broken, back to zero

Sure but even that only takes him to 5 wins from 16 appearances. That’s not even 33%. He played halfback when we scored 12 points in three games against Manly, Canterbury and the Warriors.

 

[Yossarian]

None of our players who played this season were make or break players given our woeful position but some definitely offered more than others - Hastings probably fits into that category with most apart from a few who didnt/don't rate him.
It cant be ignored the decision makers who had a major bearing on our performance given the season was written off a little over halfway through the season. Can guarantee that decision will not be made next season regardless of how we are going.

I liked Hastings as a player - I’m just pointing out the facts.

 

[gallagher]

I think u are putting to much into this culture and structure thing , so let’s look at the most successful clubs over the last 5-10 years , I would say there’s 4 or 5
Melbourne
Rooters
South’s
Penrith
So let’s break it down on these 4
Well the 1st thing is they are all owned or backed by single owners , which means they are able to entice the best juniors or the best up and comers as well as keeping the best players on lower contracts , they have the best coaches and I am sure the best back room staff . So when u compare this to the English premier soccer , look who dominates there competition, Manchester city , Chelsea , Liverpool, these clubs owned by single or very rich groups, WELL can u see the same pattern to our league , so culture and structure I think comes down to MONEY, MONEY and more MONEY, because all clubs try there best for that same culture , so it all comes down to how much money u can put into it .

BuT Wer'E one oF ThE few ClubS tHaT mAkE a pRoFit

 

[happy_tiger]

Thank god we aren't arguing how wonderful Brooks ...Hastings ...AD are again

 

[Conbat07]

😴😴😴 signings and rumours thread

 

[Noggon]

Thank god we aren't arguing how wonderful Brooks ...Hastings ...AD are again

I wish we could, but sadly...

 

[leichhardtjunior]

I'm very confused by these comments. Were you not, in the previous post, saying that legal action would have set a tone of management supporting the players and we should have in fact "kicked stones"?

Nope.
I’m saying you’re a stone kicking ‘fan’ and management is having a crack.

 

[Noggon]

Sure but even that only takes him to 5 wins from 16 appearances. That’s not even 33%. He played halfback when we scored 12 points in three games against Manly, Canterbury and the Warriors.

They were combos getting to know each other, trying plays & it was beginning to gel. Beating top teams by a point is belief. Don't stop trying.

 

[leichhardtjunior]

Anyway I’m out v here.
Merry Xmas, cheer & positivity to one and all 😂
Go the Tiges 💪

 

[bptiger 0]

BuT Wer'E one oF ThE few ClubS tHaT mAkE a pRoFit

But we don’t spent , check that out

 

[teddy23]

How about you leave the Jackson Hastings talks in the Jackson Hastings thread?

 

[bptiger 0]

How about we forget all about HASTINGS, as he no longer plays for us , regardless of if he was pushed or he walked himself .
Let’s talk about those who will be there this year

 

[jadtiger]

I am sure there will be a plethora of Brooks threads over the next few months,some started by the bum kickers and the others by the bum kissers

 

[twentyforty]

I suppose it comes down to the interpretation of success. How many finals series Tiges in since 2005? And consecutive finals series? Maguire was there for 3 years and each year worse than the previous. I don't think anyone expects immediate success, but definitely improvement season upon season, and consistency

I guess what you’re saying is Maguire was the problem and regardless of what we do, victory/improvement is ours now that we’re rid of the problem?
I think there are more important elements to goal setting than simply removing impediments. Assuming Madge was the reason for our poor performance. It doesn’t make sense to me, because he always seemed more focussed on winning than anybody?

 

[Noggon]

Agreed. I personally like Hastings but we were hardly a powerhouse when he played. Overall we nudged up from abysmal to woeful when he played.

Even if here was a powerhouse, he couldn't do it by himself. There were limitations around him. There isn't any quality halfbacks on the market, at least none to replace him, and to swap him for an ageing forward just doesn't make sense

 

[Noggon]

I guess what you’re saying is Maguire was the problem and regardless of what we do, victory/improvement is ours now that we’re rid of the problem?
I think there are more important elements to goal setting than simply removing impediments. Assuming Madge was the reason for our poor performance. It doesn’t make sense to me, because he always seemed more focussed on winning than anybody?

You're making an assumption and it's incorrect. Victory/improvement will be expected from the next coach. Coaches live and die by the results sword. It was not entirely his fault but 3 increasingly bad season results aint gonna hold you in good stead. Focussed on winning he might have been but it did not translate to wins

 

[Spartan117]

The two big signings did not get over the line until Sheens was on board. Madge couldn't land anyone until Sheens arrived

This was in tandem. Give Madge the credit he deserves.

Both Api and Papi have strong relationships with Madge.


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