Luke Brooks #167

[Tim Sheens]

Really?

Sheens was appointed Football Manager effective immediately on 5 June 2021.

Tim Sheens appointed Wests Tigers new head of football to seal stunning return to Concord | Sporting News Australia

Tim Sheens is coming back to Concord with the Tigers confirming the coaching great as the club's new football performance boss with immediate effect.

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Isaah Papali'i announced as a WTs signing on 18 Nov 2021

Api Koroiseau announced as a WTs signing on 3 Dec 2021.

Don't bring facts into a discussion where "the vibe" is paramount for opinion, just as some of the attacks on Brooks are tantamount to bullying. Words commonly mixed up when Sheens answered a question on the issue.

You must stop pretending that the guy in charge of football operations actually held sway over recruitment and signings, and just go with the vibe of how others feel is correct.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Not taking the p1ss but you're also speculating on Madge's input. Because the data shows that for 3 years prior to Sheens coming on board Madge couldn't sign any top shelf players

The years when poor upper management with insane deals to *insert long list here* tied Madge’s hands?


Not saying Madge was the answer but he definitely was not the problem like some on here make him out to be.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

I recall Sheens saying Papali’i was Maguire’s idea. And he also stated that Maguire’s credentials as coach were never in question, he can coach. He was just a round peg trying to fill a square hole. Or words to that affect.

Nah. Sheens been pulling the strings all along. Didn’t you hear? Sure he was punted by the club, never coached nrl again but now he’s back he’s a wizard.

 

[Buttface]

Like you said "love thy neighbor,different times,different attitudes" bullying is unacceptable nowadays and rightfully so. Shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged at any age. Don't know what someone is going through both personally and mentally.

@Merlot
Agree with you Kaito.
There is a difference between taking the piss, picking on, or hacking on someone, and relentless bullying, and those that can’t see that are just part of the problem too.
One difference is when in primary school I probably did not know the term “taking the piss” and intentionally used the term “picking on” in my original post so people would know that we were not bullying. But obviously some people don’t get the fine points of human communication or banter or whatever. Anyway I’m over this bs.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

are you mate ?? you death ride a player constantly

Absolutely I am. I wish Brooks was a half decent player. I wish I could trust that sheens now has all the answers. I wish I could believe a rookie coach in Benji is the smart move and not a PR stunt cause they missed out on the actual coach they wanted. Wishing won’t get ya far champ.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

It's 10.00 pm, 1957 in Adelaide. You Brooks bashers are pathetic. I predict that he will be Dally M halfback of the year in 2018. So leave it off for another 61 years! Absolute waste of alien technology posting this crap!

 

[Kaito]

Exactly and those of us who aren’t try to be Principal PC all the time get it.

It's not about being PC. I hate that
word to be honest haha. I think
King Sirros intentions were pure,
just a misunderstanding though,
doesn't matter let it go either way

 

[Tim Sheens]

Then report the posts that you deem bullying. Do it. Let’s see if they are in fact bullying or you are just trying to deflect valid criticism of a footy player on a footy forum.

It’s pathetic that a few here are now using that term so loosely and minimizing its actual effect on actual people in day to day lives. If anyone here was hitting up his socials and abusing him or if they were yelling things at him in the street, 100% name a shame. This is not that and it’s a low act to try to shoehorn an actual social issue into this.

I addressed that earlier and was only disappointed in one of the people that liked the latest ad nauseam "imp" attack on Brooks that it related to.

You were one of the others, so am unsurprised that you haven't worked out that it was part of exactly that our coach was addressing with his bullying analysis.

This is the Wests Tigers Forum, which I expect is close to, if not, the largest and longest dedicated fan base social media site of this club. In this day and age, decades on since we had internet at our fingertips and providing by far the most common form of communication, if what is said on here is not a social issue, what is?

 

[Buttface]

It's not about being PC. I hate that
word to be honest haha. I think
King Sirros intentions were pure,
just a misunderstanding though,
doesn't matter let it go either way

I am with you hated the term PC, but South Park had a Principal PC, and any time the kids would pick on each other principal PC would come down on them for bullying.
And yeah king sorro may have had good intentions but he kept going and going after I tried to explain and let it go but he kept at me so isn’t that just bullying or trolling in it’s own right? Anyway, it was kids being kids 40years ago. I’ll give it one last crack, let’s just let it go.

 

[Kaito]

All good boys, seasons just around
the corner, we'll have plenty of things
to argue about & agree upon soon ...

 

[Alltheway]

you are purely speculating on sheens input. What we do know is Madge was head coach and got two world class players. Did sheens have a big part to play? Dunno, neither do you. Fact is Madge was at the helm and got it done. All sheens has done lately is derail 2022. Again, facts. First spoon.


insults? If questioning your information and how legitimate it is hurts your feelings you probably take your hand off the keyboard, shut it down and go find a safe place.

They both joined a team that had been dropping two spots a season since Fadge started on the way to the spoon the following season. He was lucky to have kept his job that season and everyone knew it! As stated before it didn’t take a rocket scientist to realise that Fadge didn’t have long to go, and the only reason that paps was trying to pull out was because para came back with more money.

 

[Buttface]

@Tim Sheens
@king_sirro
I get the feeling you two are now peed off coz I did not elaborate more in my initial post. Well it was just supposed to be a a post like any other, didn’t for one second think I would get attacked and accused of bullying a kid from 40 years ago, hence the lack of detail. Maybe I could have been more descriptive in my initial post, but maybe you two could have been a little less jumpy and less ready to accuse? And just so you know I got relentlessly bullied through out high school, and I am not looking for any sympathy there, just pointing out I know the difference. I am not apologising here and not looking for one just trying to see from all sides. If you can’t move on positively from this then I can’t help you.
Anyway my olive branch to you two fellow Tiger supporters is in the what are you listening two now thread. Check it out.

 

[tigertuff]

Absolutely top shelf recruiting. Big ones secured before Sheens though right? Try and be honest when you’re presenting a point.

Top shelf recruiting by Madge = Bj, Jimmy the jet, Musgrove, Tamou, Gildart, the list goes on. I'll take Sheens' recruits any day. Fancy thinking these were the players to set the tone in your club whilst your talented juniors come through. If anything he was setting it up for further failure.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

It is that repeated pattern of negative behaviour directed towards an individual that constitutes bullying behaviour. Even though Sheens highlighted the issue, some on this forum doubled down with a display that was known in the ADF as dumb insolence. It suits those involved well.

Dumb insolence is exactly right. Have seen @Alltheway refer to Madge as Fadge several times. Not sure what he means by that but it’s likely a slur. Have not seen you, or any of the other white knights come to Madge’s aid against bullying. Why’s that? Cause it doesn’t suit your argument? Dumb insolence. I like it.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Top shelf recruiting by Madge = Bj, Jimmy the jet, Musgrove, Tamou, Gildart, the list goes on. I'll take Sheens' recruits any day. Fancy thinking these were the players to set the tone in your club whilst your talented juniors come through. If anything he was setting it up for further failure.

Don’t expect you to read all the dribble in this thread but that’s been addressed ad nauseam.

Madge may not have been the answer but he’s not the magic bullet of all the issues wests have had over the last decade that some make him out to be.

Anyways. Done with Brooks chat, I’m sure there’s plenty to come over the next few months.

 

[TCL]

Don’t expect you to read all the dribble in this thread but that’s been addressed ad nauseam.

Madge may not have been the answer but he’s not the magic bullet of all the issues wests have had over the last decade that some make him out to be.

Anyways. Done with Brooks chat, I’m sure there’s plenty to come over the next few months.

Neither is brooks, just saying.

 

[Tucker]

@Tim Sheens
@king_sirro
I get the feeling you two are now peed off coz I did not elaborate more in my initial post. Well it was just supposed to be a a post like any other, didn’t for one second think I would get attacked and accused of bullying a kid from 40 years ago, hence the lack of detail. Maybe I could have been more descriptive in my initial post, but maybe you two could have been a little less jumpy and less ready to accuse? And just so you know I got relentlessly bullied through out high school, and I am not looking for any sympathy there, just pointing out I know the difference. I am not apologising here and not looking for one just trying to see from all sides. If you can’t move on positively from this then I can’t help you.
Anyway my olive branch to you two fellow Tiger supporters is in the what are you listening two now thread. Check it out.

Don’t waste energy on them.
They will only push their own narrative so they can continue making out what a bad guy you are.
We don’t have to get along to follow a sporting team. If we did it would be fake and boring.

 

[Buttface]

Don’t waste energy on them.
They will only push their own narrative so they can continue making out what a bad guy you are.
We don’t have to get along to follow a sporting team. If we did it would be fake and boring.

Thanks Tucker.
I am not apologising for what I said or believe and not asking that of them.
I am trying to be less rigid and a more understanding person in my life.
Let’s see how the response goes.

 

[king_sirro]

@Tim Sheens
@king_sirro
I get the feeling you two are now peed off coz I did not elaborate more in my initial post. Well it was just supposed to be a a post like any other, didn’t for one second think I would get attacked and accused of bullying a kid from 40 years ago, hence the lack of detail. Maybe I could have been more descriptive in my initial post, but maybe you two could have been a little less jumpy and less ready to accuse? And just so you know I got relentlessly bullied through out high school, and I am not looking for any sympathy there, just pointing out I know the difference. I am not apologising here and not looking for one just trying to see from all sides. If you can’t move on positively from this then I can’t help you.
Anyway my olive branch to you two fellow Tiger supporters is in the what are you listening two now thread. Check it out.

Didn't think I attacked you mate, was just pointing out how the wording of your post did seem like you were bullying, that's all. You have since said it was more mates gigging each other so all good.

 

[king_sirro]

get ya head out of the sand pit

That's a strange reply