Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[The Chad]

isn't he gone to the cowboys or dolphins next season

That's Averillo.

Alamoti is the bigger centre. Played U19 SOO last season. Not as fast as Averillo, but has very silky passing ability.

 

[king_sirro]

Who is this in relation to? I read back a few pages but couldn't figure it out.

In relation to Tony Sukkar, a young forward at the club. Think he has been injured a bit this year. Played in the NRL trial against the Warriors and played well.

If the info is correct that he isn't happy how the club is run, that's unusual for a youngster. Usually means they know others have taken over them in the pecking order. I'd say he knows Sam Fainu, Kit Laulilii and Faagatu are head of him and he wants out.

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

In relation to Tony Sukkar, a young forward at the club. Think he has been injured a bit this year. Played in the NRL trial against the Warriors and played well.

If the info is correct that he isn't happy how the club is run, that's unusual for a youngster. Usually means they know others have taken over them in the pecking order. I'd say he knows Sam Fainu, Kit Laulilii and Faagatu are head of him and he wants out.

Sounds like he has a heart the size of a pea…. He can go

 

[hank37w]

If that is the criteria for players that need to leave then there may not be all that many left.

 

[sparci]

Hes no loss.

 

[Vicious]

I think he definitely has talent, but his game isn’t as well rounded as it should be because he wasn’t developed properly.

he’s used to trampling over everyone and in first grade that doesn’t happen unless you’re a genetic freak. he has pedigree but he needs a Bellamy or a Bennett to get him to what is required.

definitely a project player, but not a project that should play out at WT.

I think Alamoti is good enough to be a long term NRL players and would not be a bad signing, but I really think we need pure speed across our backline, preferably players who can score length of the field tries to give our opponents something to worry about.

 

[balmain boy]

In relation to Tony Sukkar, a young forward at the club. Think he has been injured a bit this year. Played in the NRL trial against the Warriors and played well.

If the info is correct that he isn't happy how the club is run, that's unusual for a youngster. Usually means they know others have taken over them in the pecking order. I'd say he knows Sam Fainu, Kit Laulilii and Faagatu are head of him and he wants out.

Yeah Sukkar is no loss. He's a plodder, works hard but has no real impact on games. A younger, crappier version of twal, but kicks goals. We have a heap of props ahead of him: Pole, faagatu, Miller, Laulilii, Tofaenono, Fainu.
We can't keep them all.... We need players who can make a difference. The guys listed above have decent engines and impact too. Despite being a former rep player i don't see anything that would warrant him getting a run in development contracts or nrl squads. I'd be happy for him to stick around and work his way up through flegg and see how he goes, but if other clubs want to throw him a bone so be it....

 

[balmain boy]

Owned a few business if that qualifies! Haha
I think he'll be a good director of football 1 day!

Nope, it doesn't!
Owning means putting money in. CEO is managing the operation of all parts of the business on a daily basis, and needs to have strong communication and interpersonal skills. Robbie does not have this. And as another poster mentioned, his arrogance and abrasive style is quite polarising, the last thing the club needs is a manager who instantly polarises his team!

 

[Yanz 85]

Hell no.. he’s a poser, doesn’t like to tackle at all

As opposed to AD and Wakeham lol. He is lightning fast we got zero speed in our side

 

[Needaname]

Bulldogs sign Liam Knight.
Phil the liar insists that the only way to build a club is from within.
Nek minit......trying to buy everyone on the market.

I’ve also read that they’ve given Ryan Sutton the tap after less than 1 year.
So there is definitely an experimental approach to Gus’s recruiting.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Nope, it doesn't!
Owning means putting money in. CEO is managing the operation of all parts of the business on a daily basis, and needs to have strong communication and interpersonal skills. Robbie does not have this. And as another poster mentioned, his arrogance and abrasive style is quite polarising, the last thing the club needs is a manager who instantly polarises his team!

Yeah most CEOs have done an MBA in studies to set them up for such roles and usually some experience in the legal or finance aspects of a sporting organisation or clubland.

An outlier to that is Dave Donaghy (ex AAP journo) who I worked with in sport's comms about 20 years ago who did an MBA, gained business experience and then became CEO of Storm & now Broncos.

 

[Kaito]

Nope, it doesn't!
Owning means putting money in. CEO is managing the operation of all parts of the business on a daily basis, and needs to have strong communication and interpersonal skills. Robbie does not have this. And as another poster mentioned, his arrogance and abrasive style is quite polarising, the last thing the club needs is a manager who instantly polarises his team!

BB I was just trying to be funny by saying that
he qualifies to be CEO because he owned a few
businesses haha, I wasn't being serious. I think he has good business traits but will
be suited to a managerial football role, a
good link between the juniors, reggies & 1sts.
You won't find a better man to relay all this
information to coach Benji than him TBH

 

[2041]

They did the same thing with the start of their rebuild, a real repeat of Tigers 2017. They are also giving Ryan Sutton permission to leave, who is one a large deal from Canberra, and not re-signing Luke Thompson (who they have not been able to offload).

Basically signing everyone with a heart-beat, mostly ignoring junior development and not able to get results from the handful of juniors they do have (e.g. Alamoti, Averillo).

Their fans also keep referring to the number of players they have coming off contract as if that means they're automatically freeing up a lot of cap room. More or less all those players will be on minimum or close to it, though: they won't be saving any significant coin by shedding Braidon Burns, Brandon Clarke, Corey Waddell, Declan Casey, Nu Brown, Jayden Okunbor, Paul Alamoti or Samuel Hughes. All it means is they have a lot of roster slots to fill and no extra money to do it with. If anything it makes their problems worse.

Basically, they are getting Luke Thompson and Kyle Flanagan's cap room back, and whatever they're paying Averillo (quite possibly not much). That money plus however much the cap goes up has to cover Xerri (presumably not much), Crichton and any upgrades they've given out - assuming they replace the other eight departures with minimum salary guys.

 

[Tired Tiger]

From SMH

Farah eyes GM role​

There has been talk within the game about Wests Tigers assistant Robbie Farah potentially moving out of the coaching staff and into a role in administration.
Farah has previously indicated to the club that he sees his future as a general manager. His ambition hasn’t changed but the club is yet to decide on the structure of its football department.
There is a vacancy at Concord, with Tim Sheens stepping away from his GM duties to focus on coaching, and it remains unclear what role, if any, Sheens will have with the Tigers once his two-year tenure comes to an end.

This masthead contacted Farah on Sunday to see if he intended to move away from coaching as early as 2024.
The club legend admitted the administration side of the business appealed to him, but he planned to remain Benji Marshall’s offsider again next year.

Robbie Farah has been an assistant coach this year.CREDIT:GETTY
If an administration role was to become available, expect Farah to be front and centre of discussions. A move upstairs could open the door for the Tigers to bring in another assistant coach.
Several player agents have told the club that their clients are concerned with the standard of coaching and the attention to detail, especially defensively, on offer at the Tigers at the moment. The Tigers intend to address those issues.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

I wonder whether Lachlan Lam is being considered by WT for next season. Surely Fulton has done his due diligence on him.

He would be great as 5/8 if Sezer is half. Has good speed, agility, ok kicking game from what I understand, solid defence and has really improved his organisational play in SL.

Would bring experience & leadership too.

Would be an interesting one to weigh up - Lachlan Lam or Jayden Sullivan.

 

[Bula]

Sounds like he has a heart the size of a pea…. He can go

So long Sukkar.

 

[Oldman]

How are you convinced he’s a long term fullback when he does not have any playmaking skills or any idea how to create overlaps like the elite NRL fullbacks do ?
I am aware he’s young and apparently very coachable, so could very well develop these skills given time, but we are running last two years straight, we have the worst attack in the NRL we don’t have time to wait, we need players who fit the description of the position they are playing now.
As Tucker stated Bula could become a rep centre/winger very fast, he’s nowhere near a rep standard fullback just yet.
As for Miller, he’s no project player, I repeat he was leading the entire NRL for tackle busts before Ponga took his spot. He has the necessary playmaking and passing game to regularly create tries and try scoring opportunities and it’s clear we struggle in this area.

If I remember correctly Miller does struggle stopping the opposition from scoring try’s.
Reminds me he’s a bit like Matt Dufty (all out attack not his job to tackle)
There’s an old saying that if you can’t tackle you shouldn’t be in first grade.
IMG for someone in their first year in the top grade Bula is progressing nicely.

 

[Curaeus]

From SMH

Farah eyes GM role​

There has been talk within the game about Wests Tigers assistant Robbie Farah potentially moving out of the coaching staff and into a role in administration.
Farah has previously indicated to the club that he sees his future as a general manager. His ambition hasn’t changed but the club is yet to decide on the structure of its football department.
There is a vacancy at Concord, with Tim Sheens stepping away from his GM duties to focus on coaching, and it remains unclear what role, if any, Sheens will have with the Tigers once his two-year tenure comes to an end.

This masthead contacted Farah on Sunday to see if he intended to move away from coaching as early as 2024.
The club legend admitted the administration side of the business appealed to him, but he planned to remain Benji Marshall’s offsider again next year.

Robbie Farah has been an assistant coach this year.CREDIT:GETTY
If an administration role was to become available, expect Farah to be front and centre of discussions. A move upstairs could open the door for the Tigers to bring in another assistant coach.
Several player agents have told the club that their clients are concerned with the standard of coaching and the attention to detail, especially defensively, on offer at the Tigers at the moment. The Tigers intend to address those issues.

There's already a good senior executive role in the club he'd arguably be ideal for (and a lot better suited to than its current occupant).

 

[AdelaideTiger]

I wonder whether Lachlan Lam is being considered by WT for next season. Surely Fulton has done his due diligence on him.

He would be great as 5/8 if Sezer is half. Has good speed, agility, ok kicking game from what I understand, solid defence and has really improved his organisational play in SL.

Would bring experience & leadership too.

Would be an interesting one to weigh up - Lachlan Lam or Jayden Sullivan.

Sullivan is a rocks or Diamonds kind of player, but we desperately need some spark and creation from our halves.
If Sezer is our 7 next year I think Sullivan makes more sense as the 6 to pair with him.
Lam I think is a very solid player, but lacks the dynamic attributes that we need.

 

[jirskyr]

Their fans also keep referring to the number of players they have coming off contract as if that means they're automatically freeing up a lot of cap room. More or less all those players will be on minimum or close to it, though: they won't be saving any significant coin by shedding Braidon Burns, Brandon Clarke, Corey Waddell, Declan Casey, Nu Brown, Jayden Okunbor, Paul Alamoti or Samuel Hughes. All it means is they have a lot of roster slots to fill and no extra money to do it with. If anything it makes their problems worse.

Basically, they are getting Luke Thompson and Kyle Flanagan's cap room back, and whatever they're paying Averillo (quite possibly not much). That money plus however much the cap goes up has to cover Xerri (presumably not much), Crichton and any upgrades they've given out - assuming they replace the other eight departures with minimum salary guys.

Isn't that the way Roosters manage the salary cap?

You sign Pearce, Aiden Guerra and SKD on modest contracts, but when they leave, there's double the salary cap space left than when they signed.

You sign Cronk for a million and when he retires, there's suddenly $1.5M to spend in the cap.

It's like that optical illusion with the chocolate bar, where you cut it up into multiple pieces, and when you try and put it back together, somehow you end up with more chocolate than when you started.

I wonder if the NRL Salary Cap Auditor likes Cadbury's?