OFFICIAL UFC & MMA Discussion

[The Fresh Oil]

Tap out eh?

And have a hard Mordelo cause it’s brewed for those with a fighting spirit. I then go enlist in the marines.

 

[Demps]

Doing Stan sport for PFL, think it’s got legs if Danna slips

PFL has some good stars on their roster.
Noticed Kayla Harrison will be fighting Holly at UFC 300 though.

I stand by UFC is the #1 competition though.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Says the bloke who doesnt know the history of the UFC

Nah man. No idea at all. I’m more pro slap expert.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

What’s the M in MMA stand for?

I’m guessing the U in UFC must be your first name cause you get so upset it dosnt do exactly what you want

Mixed.......and the U stands for Ultimate no? Are you saying that it wouldnt be MIXED martial arts if it didnt have timed rounds?

Who would be the ultimate fighter?

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Not sore at all lol, when someone says something like

Dude...no one is going to take your UFC away, you can still wear your TapOut t shirts to the pub on a Sunday.

I know im dealing with an uneducated casual an I tap out.

Sounds pretty sore....

 

[Demps]

Mixed.......and the U stands for Ultimate no? Are you saying that it wouldnt be MIXED martial arts if it didnt have timed rounds?

Who would be the ultimate fighter?

 

[Mistymuzzle]

PFL has some good stars on their roster.
Noticed Kayla Harrison will be fighting Holly at UFC 300 though.

I stand by UFC is the #1 competition though.

Without question.......

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Mixed.......and the U stands for Ultimate no? Are you saying that it wouldnt be MIXED martial arts if it didnt have timed rounds?

Who would be the ultimate fighter?

Ahh I see your confusion now lol. So listen, when they say mixed martial arts, they don’t mean two fighters of one but different discipline fight. It means a single fighter has a mixed ( meaning they trained in more than one discipline ) martial. Happy to clear that up for ya.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

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Filthy casual.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

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No way Cormier wins without rounds. Great fighter though.

if they did it now......

 

[Mistymuzzle]

Ahh I see your confusion now lol. So listen, when they say mixed martial arts, they don’t mean two fighters of one but different discipline fight. It means a single fighter has a mixed ( meaning they trained in more than one discipline ) martial. Happy to clear that up for ya.

Never said anything different.......your point? Surely if they didnt have rounds, we would determine the Ultimate fighter regardless of discipline? or do certain disciplines need a rest every 5mins?

 

[Demps]

No way Cormier wins without rounds. Great fighter though.

if they did it now......

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King Ryan.
What a guy....

Has had a few health issues of late.
And he loves PEDs.

Love to see him in an MMA fight.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

King Ryan.
What a guy....

Has had a few health issues of late.
And he loves PEDs.

Love to see him in an MMA fight.

Massive PED junkie ( would put him in good company in UFC) and GOAT of the trolls. Will never fight MMA in 5 minute rounds, which is kinda the whole point.

 

[Demps]

Massive PED junkie ( would put him in good company in UFC) and GOAT of the trolls. Will never fight MMA in 5 minute rounds, which is kinda the whole point.

He's good value, I like him.
Love to see him, against a top tier wrestler.

But yeah, we won't see him out of BJJ, I'd say.

The current best MMA fighter in the UFC is by far Jon Jones.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Never said anything different.......your point? Surely if they didnt have rounds, we would determine the Ultimate fighter regardless of discipline? or do certain disciplines need a rest every 5mins?

Agreed. Ban rounds and anyone from Dagestan.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

UFC is expanding and I believe in the right direction... hopefully the stars keep presenting themselves. We've got new guys about to break out like Bo Nickal, Jack Della Maddalena and we'll see how this guy who's fighting Volk goes.... and then the next generations coming through who have been legitimately training MMA, all aspects since young. I think the future is bright.

This is my problem with UFC and this part of the sport. When do we see the next Wonderboy or GSP, god forbid a Gracie, an elite at something. They are all becoming very samish. Great fighters, very tough but losing that element.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

No way Cormier wins without rounds. Great fighter though.

if they did it now......

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Gordo lucky he retired before my boy burst onto the scene, level to the game son

 

[Mistymuzzle]

He's good value, I like him.
Love to see him, against a top tier wrestler.

There isnt a wrestler in the world that could match it with Ryan or any top tier BJJ, it is the difference between wrestling and BJJ. Not saying BJJ is better, thye are just different sports and once it hits the ground the BJJ guy wins and no one gets close to Ryan.

you would need an elite striker to beat Ryan and it would need to be early because Ryan excels at managing distance. IMO Muay Thai is the premium striking art to counter BJJ because of the capacity to match or beat BJJ in managing distance.

But yeah, we won't see him out of BJJ, I'd say.

Agreed, but he is singlehandedly monetising BJJ. Bringing it into the marketplace and making it an event. I love, train and compete BJJ but the first to acknowledge that unless you fight, its a boring sport to watch. Ryan has managed to bring money into the sport with the UFC including his fights as PPV.

The current best MMA fighter in the UFC is by far Jon Jones.

Maybe....the Dagestanis are good, again IMO because they have stayed true to what they excel at. Gets back to the point I was making with oily. In the heavyweights, they are mostly strikers because as the weight/power increases in humans, the capacity to not get knocked out doesnt.

 

[Demps]

There isnt a wrestler in the world that could match it with Ryan or any top tier BJJ, it is the difference between wrestling and BJJ. Not saying BJJ is better, thye are just different sports and once it hits the ground the BJJ guy wins and no one gets close to Ryan.

you would need an elite striker to beat Ryan and it would need to be early because Ryan excels at managing distance. IMO Muay Thai is the premium striking art to counter BJJ because of the capacity to match or beat BJJ in managing distance.


Agreed, but he is singlehandedly monetising BJJ. Bringing it into the marketplace and making it an event. I love, train and compete BJJ but the first to acknowledge that unless you fight, its a boring sport to watch. Ryan has managed to bring money into the sport with the UFC including his fights as PPV.

Maybe....the Dagestanis are good, again IMO because they have stayed true to what they excel at. Gets back to the point I was making with oily. In the heavyweights, they are mostly strikers because as the weight/power increases in humans, the capacity to not get knocked out doesnt.

I think HW is probably the worst division currently.

The Dagestanis are great, indeed.
Love the pressure they can dish out with the wrestling.

The wrestling took out a legit BJJ threat when we saw Islam VS Oliveira.

 

[Mistymuzzle]

I think HW is probably the worst division currently.

The Dagestanis are great, indeed.
Love the pressure they can dish out with the wrestling.

The wrestling took out a legit BJJ threat when we saw Islam VS Oliveira.

HW is always the worst division unless you like watching massive blokes punching each other in the head. Too big to adequately excel in other disciplines with Fedor & Cro Cop and maybe Bones exceptions

Islam isnt a wrestler, he is Sambo which is basically Russian BJJ. RJJ if you will.