BrendonWT
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let them have one good game in a preseason trial like brandon wakeham did then our fans will claim theyre the saviour of the club lol
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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weststigers
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Don't change the goalposts. You said when we aim high, we shoot blanks. I gave you 4 examples of aiming high, yet you're still arguing?
I'm starting ti think you're one of those blokes that has to be right all the time, even in the face of evidence. I believe the psychological term is belief persistence.
Kaito
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What bothers me with watching some ex- players
like Tuilagi, Pauga, Mikaele, McIntyre etc. They either
up their game when they leave or you don't see the
Stand-out glaring errors in their game like at our
club. We need a football mastermind as director
of football. Nobody biz related, just a real footy head!
like Tuilagi, Pauga, Mikaele, McIntyre etc. They either
up their game when they leave or you don't see the
Stand-out glaring errors in their game like at our
club. We need a football mastermind as director
of football. Nobody biz related, just a real footy head!
Lebanese_Coach_aspiration
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From what i have read, JT has a degenerative knee condition, and his numbers over the last two seasons are way down, and he is having reduced minutes.
It made me think why doesnt he medically retire then?
i looked up that his million dollar contract expires end of 2027.
As far as i understand, a medical retirement only pays out two years in advance.
It is my belief he is just hanging in there till end of 2025, then he retires and takes the medical retirement.
We should only consider him if he wants to come and cowboys pay half, otherwise he will be very much that stereotypical Tigerpie has been signing, I believe.
GNR4LIFE
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He’d be absolutely terrible. He’s a shadow of what he was.
Lebanese_Coach_aspiration
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I personally believe we have too many pacific islanders.
I know that comes across badly to read, but i hope peop;e dont see it that way, i'll explain.
The reason I say that as a negative is because they play the 'power' game and i think that only works in smaller amounts.
Notice that when england played tonga they thumped them 3-0, when tonga had an NRL studded lineup, and england had injuries and a couple of nrl players only. Their team were more the hard headed worker type.
Also, when Bennet built the dolphins, a top 4 team, I noticed he targeted the exact same type of player as a nucleus. he did similar at Saints and newcastle.
A third example is dogs team last year and this year. I truly believe that if you look who exited and who came in, CC made a conscious decision to limit the power poly game, and replace with high IQ versatile footy players that are the opposite of the poly power game.
Fourth, I know one player who we targeted that i wont name who said he did not sign with the tigers because of this.
I swear you don’t actually watch NRL - all you bang on about is kids and washed up reserve graders….
Doorey went to Parra on the back of them being runners up - they didn’t make the 8…
If he’s not improving the runners up, how’s he improving the wooden spooners?
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Lebanese_Coach_aspiration
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I'm not sure i understand this logic?
Kaito
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That's crazy talk, we're just disjointed at the moment
but still united most importantly despite the loses...
WesternSuburbsBoy
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Did people forget @Lebanese_Coach_aspiration was banned on here for being a troll from the Dogs forum hahaha his ban must have expired
Tito Santana
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The Rebels have folded. Did someone say Curtis Rona?
Wildcat777
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Mate be careful….that pairing I reckon would be in the top 10 in the Ron Massey Cup.
Kaito
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Bro I think he's tigers supporter but was trolling smh
Lebanese_Coach_aspiration
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i proved that it was an inaccurate claim and someone here just mouthing off.
Lebanese_Coach_aspiration
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I dont think it is crazy, for the reasons I said.
We missed out on a big target who said the same thing about us.
Lebanese_Coach_aspiration
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Too old cuz.
he will be 33.
Wingers dont make it past 30 in our game ever unless they play the power game.
Ryan Hall, Morris, Dan Tupou, Wendell Sailor etc
The Alex Johnston and charlie staines types dont.
It is why AJ will not break the try scoring record, unless he gets it spoon fed, like a player certain to score passes it to him and stuff like that, and why we wont see JAC in the NRL in 2027.
It is called depth, something we don’t have.
It’s one thing having a sub standard NRL team, but it just makes a bad situation worse when you lack depth and lack players in reserve grade at least keeping the NRL players on their toes.
It would be nice to only sign superstars, but something called a Salary Cap doesn’t allow that, therefore depth signings are very important to the success of any NRL club.
Melbourne have made an art form of it over the years, Wests Tigers always get it terribly wrong and compound that by never recruiting halfway through a season when results are clearly terrible.
We talk about developing our young up and comers, well that don’t work by playing them in a team that gets belted every week, you need a strong team with a few experienced players who are highly successful in this grade to ably assist our young players development.
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balmain boy
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Probably because he's like 60kgs
The Chad
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Whoever the club brings in- unless that player is the difference between success & failure at the club over the next year or so (ie Luai type signings)- the Tigers just should not over spend.
You overspend on guys you develop yourselves, to a degree. You know what they offer, how they fit in etc. But paying an equal amount, or more, for external help- you're just as likely to get a Papali'i- a good player that just hasn't fit the system the way he fit someone else's.
I would pay a little more for Utoikamanu. Because, for whatever he lacks, he's been developed by us, is a player on the rise & can't be improved on from outside.
But you add guys like Willison (do not overpay) & get value, instead of signing a guy away from a club like Hunt at the Sharks, who is under contract & unlikely to move for less than he is already on.
Some people have suggested bring back Garner & some people have scoffed at the idea. I quite like it. Because, despite being incomplete as a player- he has shown he can fit into this club, as well as having displayed the ability to play with Luai. Most importantly- he's not going to be Papali'i value against the cap while additionally not giving a SIGNIFICANT downgrade in production.
For me- that is a smart purchase & allows younger players behind him time to develop, challenge & then overtake him without slugging the club with a large contract on top.
Euan Aitken in the centres is the same.
Guys like Jack Williams at the Sharks- young, developing players- I'd be tempted to spend more on. But again, within reason.
If a guy like Nick Cotric is actually available/interested & can be had for Charlie Staines like value- he's not a bad option either. You just don't sign him for 5 years. And eventually Luke Lualili'i takes his spot.
You overspend on guys you develop yourselves, to a degree. You know what they offer, how they fit in etc. But paying an equal amount, or more, for external help- you're just as likely to get a Papali'i- a good player that just hasn't fit the system the way he fit someone else's.
I would pay a little more for Utoikamanu. Because, for whatever he lacks, he's been developed by us, is a player on the rise & can't be improved on from outside.
But you add guys like Willison (do not overpay) & get value, instead of signing a guy away from a club like Hunt at the Sharks, who is under contract & unlikely to move for less than he is already on.
Some people have suggested bring back Garner & some people have scoffed at the idea. I quite like it. Because, despite being incomplete as a player- he has shown he can fit into this club, as well as having displayed the ability to play with Luai. Most importantly- he's not going to be Papali'i value against the cap while additionally not giving a SIGNIFICANT downgrade in production.
For me- that is a smart purchase & allows younger players behind him time to develop, challenge & then overtake him without slugging the club with a large contract on top.
Euan Aitken in the centres is the same.
Guys like Jack Williams at the Sharks- young, developing players- I'd be tempted to spend more on. But again, within reason.
If a guy like Nick Cotric is actually available/interested & can be had for Charlie Staines like value- he's not a bad option either. You just don't sign him for 5 years. And eventually Luke Lualili'i takes his spot.
weststigers
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I think you're judging things as if this is the end result.
We are 5 months into the board approved strategy after the review.
We have many more moves to make yet.
