Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon shot, bystander dead - assassination attempt

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jirskyr said:
Woke no longer exists, it's a hysterical concept radicalised by conservatives who want a catch-all to point fingers at and be upset about. It's the equivalent of "back in the day", when everything that used to be "wholesome and tough" needs to come back, and everything that isn't "wholesome and tough" is "woke".

Nobody self-identifies as "woke" any longer, not since it was originally used by the black community to identify as being aware of social justice issues. The purple-haired Lezzos are not necessarily on board with the Black Lives Matter folks, nor are the Trans activists in league with the rest of the LQBTQINFOIF people. The Furries aren't necessarily Leftists and the "Me Too" movement more or less included half the population as a backlash against common sexual harassment. Some Lefties are quite radical and militant.

So anyone who says "ah they are all woke" honestly doesn't know what they are specifically talking or complaining about. It's a generalised complaint at a group of people who don't actually exist.

Conservatives are a little bit different because they self-identify as being conservative. Not always conservative about the same thing, but they generally pitch themselves as preferring the same kinds of things: small government, personal development vs govt handouts, "traditional" or "family", values, often but not always religious.

So to say "mainstream media has gone woke" has no real meaning. For any left-leaning article on MSNBC there is some right-wing piece in Murdoch press. Mainstream media is roughly as divided into Left and Right leaning as politics is; they almost always mirror each other. So for example when a country goes very Right wing, like Russia, so does the media. When it goes Left-wing Communist, the media goes with it and ends up the same propaganda-based state as the Far Right.

However I do agree with you about Social Media, in terms of it being quite toxic and I look forward to what I believe is a slow general trend away from consideration of social media as having any particular importance for politics or news (as opposed to kids using it to dance like idiots or take photos of their avocado toast).
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I’ll go a step further and say the whole Left/Right dichotomy is a complete furphy invented by the elite few in an effort to divide people and violently turn them against each other and haven’t they done a bang up job of doing just that! Exhibit A being the media in all its forms, even on this footy forum.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
If my company put pronouns on my header, or signature, I would not give a toss. And I think the whole thing is BS. But I have more important things to worry about.
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You’ll care if these stupid laws get introduced and you mislabel someone a few times resulting in a complaint to HR. Some activists are pushing for this to be a hate crime…you could be a criminal.
You are correct. It is all BS. So why are we even considering this garbage?
 
Tucker said:
I am merely pointing out one side has called for civil unrest and violence and that has led to police being attacked in the streets, buildings looted and torched and now an assassination attempt of a political rival.
It has come from highly influential people on television who spew this incorrect narrative daily and have done so for years.…it is not just the dark corners of the inter webs.
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If you are talking about links to this specific event, I understand what you are saying. Im pointing out that violent rhetoric is not limited to one side of the political spectrum. Elected officals, prominant right wing media personalities are just as culpable. Seem to remember a certain insurrection attempt not all that long ago. I dont think the intensity has been dialed down at all since then.
 
Tucker said:
You’ll care if these stupid laws get introduced and you mislabel someone a few times resulting in a complaint to HR. Some activists are pushing for this to be a hate crime…you could be a criminal.
You are correct. It is all BS. So why are we even considering this garbage?
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You can cower in fear about losing your job for calling someone the wrong pronoun if you like. I’m sure I’ll be fine.
 
Tucker said:
I am merely pointing out one side has called for civil unrest and violence and that has led to police being attacked in the streets, buildings looted and torched and now an assassination attempt of a political rival.
It has come from highly influential people on television who spew this incorrect narrative daily and have done so for years.…it is not just the dark corners of the inter webs.
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Both sides do it. The Project 2025 dude saying it will be “bloodless if the left allows it to be”. Still waiting to see Winston post that one.

After the Pelosi thing, Don Jr posted a photo of a hammer and a pair of underwear saying he had his Halloween costume sorted.
 
My answer to the question in the headline is a simple one. Not everyone on the right is MAGA

https://www.thedailybeast.com/Trump...ign=owned_social&utm_source=twitter_owned_tdb
 
Mistymuzzle said:
You have and continue to miss the point. You hate Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, fair enough. You might be right or wrong, its irrelevant.

What is relevant is that not only the media but also the actual White House have repeatedly and continually said that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is an existential threat to democracy and the US republic and repeated Hitler references. Biden and the White House and all the Democratic have come out condeming the shooting.....but....serious question, if you (White House, left media) actually believe that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is an existential threat to the US republic, to Democracy, if you actually believe that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will be a "dictator from day one", wouldnt that make Thomas Crook a hero?
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No it would not make him a hero. You don‘t shoot people in cold blood. It’s why you have laws, judges and juries.
 
Wearyfan22 said:
If you are talking about links to this specific event, I understand what you are saying. Im pointing out that violent rhetoric is not limited to one side of the political spectrum. Elected officals, prominant right wing media personalities are just as culpable. Seem to remember a certain insurrection attempt not all that long ago. I dont think the intensity has been dialed down at all since then.
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Of course I’m talking about this specific event. I’ve stated as much a number of times and couldn’t be any clearer.
 
weststigers said:
Please stop using words like Fascist, Hitler and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in the same sentence. One was a left wing (yes...Hitler was a socialist and nationalised much of the countries production)
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Do you honestly believe Hitler was left wing?? Such a bizzare rewriting of history. Better go let Nazis know that they are actually lefties. Bet the communists he purged would be surprised too.
 
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GNR4LIFE said:
My answer to the question in the headline is a simple one. Not everyone on the right is MAGA

https://www.thedailybeast.com/Trump...ign=owned_social&utm_source=twitter_owned_tdb
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Agreed.
The kid has clearly bought into the crap that has warped @hammertime’s mind.
When it is constantly spoken, it doesn’t matter who the audience is.
 
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