Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

He has run the second worst attack in the comp this year and the 7th worst attack in Wests Tigers history.
He gets lost in defence constantly, he is too weak to bring down proper men, therefore is targeted. He runs across field a lot cramping his outside men and he dies with the ball a lot as he hasnt the speed to run around most and gets caught.
His team has come last. Would things be different with someone else in 5/8? We made him sit out one game and we won it.....

I think a 18 year old rookie who’s skipped every level of pathway & jumped straight into the NRL is going to struggle a bit with the physicality of first grade haha. If it wasn’t for him getting suspended he’d easily be winning the NRL Rookie of the year.

 

[Tucker]

Every time a 5/8 gets the ball their fullback should be lurking.
This very rarely happens, so is it coaching instructions not to happen or if not why does it very rarely happen ?
Players in motion causes confusion in the opposing defence, if there is no players in motion the playmakers are sitting ducks.

Bula is a seperate headache.
One at a time please.

 

[Vicious]

I think a lot of Heamasi’s talents are wasted on a wing if I’m honest. he’s got a beautiful pair of hands and his ballplaying is top shelf. I’d have him at left centre no doubt.

Onitoni is the interesting one. he could easily unseat Bula, Galvin or Fainu in their respective positions given his talent, but if I had to make a prediction I think he’ll come into grade at right centre.

this is all dependent on them staying, of course. Masi I heard was likely to stay but Oni was leaning towards union. that said, things seem to have cooled of late. no doubt Richardson smoothed things over.

They are our 2 potential diamonds.
Makasini with size, athleticism, class and power, Large with blistering speed to go with his class and balanced ball running.
We cannot recruit players like this, so our only hope is to first hope they commit to playing for Wests Tigers and secondly hope they progress and fulfill their enormous potential.

 

[Tucker]

I think a 18 year old rookie who’s skipped every level of pathway & jumped straight into the NRL is going to struggle a bit with the physicality of first grade haha. If it wasn’t for him getting suspended he’d easily be winning the NRL Rookie of the year.

From last place? Cool.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

From last place? Cool.

Are you putting that all on Galvin?

 

[Tucker]

Are you putting that all on Galvin?

Have I said that?

 

[hank37w]

DCE missed finals more then he made finals over his 10 year deal

Based off your logic he hasn’t been effective either

We won't even mention Brooksy. 🤣

 

[The Chad]

When it does happen we worry the opposition, I don’t see it happen enough.

Could be argued we are not expansive enough, often enough..

 

[batboy]

Are they all really that awful? Or have they not been fed effectively?

Depends who the halves are and how much people like them.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Galvin does get turned around in circles but that is an easy fix over the off season. Plenty of young halves look like muppets in defence early in their careers. Cleary, Foran and Munster are the only current halves I can recall who had no holes in their defensive games. The rest of them - Moses, DCE, Hughes, Reynolds, Hynes, Hunt, Brooks, etc. all had embarrassing moments as young blokes. I remember Brooks being a turnstile, now one of the most reliable defenders in the game.

 

[The Chad]

Knights got a massive overlap
Doueihi jammed in and hoped they would hit the short ball and they didn’t so that’s his fault

Galvin probably should’ve done better then he did but it’s a tough situation to be in

This is from Fletcher Sharpes 4th try with 24 minutes to go in the second half if I am talking about the wrong one please let me know

I kind of agree. But you did point out- jamming in is what you do when facing an overlap- 5 on 3 on this occasion. Doueihi did just that, while Galvin was sliding. Alaimalo probably should have committed when Doueihi committed as well, but I didn't see Alaimalo commit once..

The try that came from Ponga's lucky kick- pretty sure I saw Galvin jam in, stop & then slide while Doueihi kept on going. Doueihi gets a lot of criticism, but that whole side doesn't work together. It looked like Doueihi was going to Gagai, Ponga came around from behind. Theoretically, had Alaimalo followed suit- he might have been in Ponga's grill instead of floundering between Ponga & Fletcher.

The only player that was sliding from inside to cover the break?

Alex Seyfarth.

 

[Tucker]

Galvin does get turned around in circles but that is an easy fix over the off season. Plenty of young halves look like muppets in defence early in their careers. Cleary, Foran and Munster are the only current halves I can recall who had no holes in their defensive games. The rest of them - Moses, DCE, Hughes, Reynolds, Hynes, Hunt, Brooks, etc. all had embarrassing moments as young blokes. I remember Brooks being a turnstile, now one of the most reliable defenders in the game.

Good post.
For some reason some posters assume you hate the player for finding fault with their games....
Lachlan is not a long term prospect in the 6 at this club. What is wrong with beginning the transition early? Fainu and Sezer can help Luai out whilst Galvin can assist out wider. I think he'll cause havoc as a centre running off Luai with Turuva outside him.

 

[Odessa]

Did anyone read today about Jack Bird and the Tigers is he worth a spot in the 30 ?

 

[Tucker]

Or or maybe just maybe you could show me since as you said yourself you are the one coming with the claim so it is on you to back it up

It seems we have hit an impass. Try and argue your points without the abuse in future and the discussions go smoother.

 

[Kelce68]

it has the potential to lock some players into longer contracts then desired.
I mean if you look at the maths of it.

Each team is required to spend 97.5% of their salary cap.
There is only 30 players to a salary cap.
So each year we decide to frontload; we are effectively making our squad weaker and weaker until we eventually land a bevy of Marquees that all that saved cap money is spent on. All the while hoping that the players that have been given long term contracts with the (front loaded bonus) continue to develop on course or better in an overall weaker side based on talent.

I’ll rephrase. It’s fantastic for a top club to do this to ensure they have a gun side when the time is right.
I’m sure you remember the Cronulla Salary cap scandal for 2015 and 2017 but the premiership winning 2016 season was compliant. Case in point.

So for a struggling club continuing to front load to build up a war chest that no one wants a part of. It’s the worst thing that can happen.

Obviously never being able to spend big dollars on big players isn't great.

It's still the only sensible option in a market devoid of genuine talent in key areas.

The real life alternative is Ivan's shopping list circa 2017.

 

[Tom Shines]

Did anyone read today about Jack Bird and the Tigers is he worth a spot in the 30 ?

read where ?

 

[Tucker]

Did anyone read today about Jack Bird and the Tigers is he worth a spot in the 30 ?

That bloke misses a lot of footy. H'll never be on the park if he comes here.
9 season for 154 games....

 

[The Chad]

Did anyone read today about Jack Bird and the Tigers is he worth a spot in the 30 ?

Not seen that..

 

[Red88_Tiger]

That bloke misses a lot of footy. H'll never be on the park if he comes here.
9 season for 154 games....

It’s actually quite sad the amount of time he’s spent on the park
Had the ability to play multiple positions well

 

[yeti]

Good post.
For some reason some posters assume you hate the player for finding fault with their games....
Lachlan is not a long term prospect in the 6 at this club. What is wrong with beginning the transition early? Fainu and Sezer can help Luai out whilst Galvin can assist out wider. I think he'll cause havoc as a centre running off Luai with Turuva outside him.

Let's hope young Fainu has a better run with injuries next year. If he can stay on the park, it gives the team so many more options.