AmericanHistoryX
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To be fair. The ball didn't just come magically to the wingers. How many did Sivo score in the games he played?
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To be fair. The ball didn't just come magically to the wingers. How many did Sivo score in the games he played?
BlackWhiteGold
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haha his quote was "god willing, hopefully I can stay for a little bit more time."
The word 'hopefully' provides some ambiguity & 'little bit more time' could mean a couple more weeks only lol
I'm not suggesting that the rumours are true, but this wouldn't be the first time a player lied about a situation like this. See what happens after the grand final I guess.
Great post! I think wingers are worth a lot more than people give them credit for, for all the reasons you posted above. I’d pay a million bucks for To’o. How long has it been since we had a winger of his class? It was the short lived career of Tuiaki, since then we have floundered with defensively inept mediocre wingers.
I don’t know if there is any truth to him actually coming here, but geez what a coup if we could land him and Luai in the same season. We would definitely be a changed team if this were to happen.
Canadian Club
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I personally don’t think he will leave. But what do you expect him to say in the middle of a finals run? “Yeah I’m leaving” and create a media frenzy and distraction for the team…
InBenjiWeTrust
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These could be the most cited, beaten only by the "warm fuzzy feeliing", and "I think" 🤔
WesternSuburbsBoy
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All I'm saying is Brian To'o has twice now shut down any speculation of him wanting to leave & the Penrith CEO has come out & shut down any talk of him leaving either. He's contracted to Penrith till 2027 & there is no chance in hell they'll be letting him go early. Just saying so we don't have to see 5 pages of imaginary backlines with Brian To'o in them.
weststigerman
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I think you answered your own question there. Defence wins comps and they play an important role in controlling the ruck. Panthers control of the middle is a big reason why they're so successful.
If a team is consistently losing the ruck in defence, the wingers can't do a thing about that.
Kelce68
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He probably is worth half that.
500k for Selwyn would be difficult to turn down, as incomplete a player as he is.
Kelce68
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850-900 would be my guess.
Over 3-5 years itd be enough to warrant heavy consideration from him in terms of financial incentive.
1 million dollars for a winger would be insanity, even if your name is Brian To'o.
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Kelce68
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This just shows me the form Kiraz has been in to oust both To'o and Marzhew for the top spot.
Canadian Club
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Kiraz only finished above To’o because he played more games. To’o has more metres per game, but does show how good Kiraz is.
Roar_Power
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He's not about to cause speculation and destabilise Penrith midway through the finals.
Tiger_Yoshi
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At least he is generating posts on here......
RonDingo
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Better than reading about Luke Brooks !!!
A couple of things
If the To'o info is accurate ( thanks for the info anyway Odessa) he wont be saying anything until the finals are done.
Added to that I actually am starting to believe forwards arent as important as they used to be. The good teams generate most of their yardage from their back 5. the main purpose of the forwards is defence and compressing defensive lines to create space.
The top 30ish in runs per game and meters per game are mainly backs.
I personally think that's where your money needs to be heavily invested. A back 5 of bula, turuva, skelton too and other centre is pretty dynamic.
If the To'o info is accurate ( thanks for the info anyway Odessa) he wont be saying anything until the finals are done.
Added to that I actually am starting to believe forwards arent as important as they used to be. The good teams generate most of their yardage from their back 5. the main purpose of the forwards is defence and compressing defensive lines to create space.
The top 30ish in runs per game and meters per game are mainly backs.
I personally think that's where your money needs to be heavily invested. A back 5 of bula, turuva, skelton too and other centre is pretty dynamic.
Tiger Stripes
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We don't need another expensive winger!
We need a quality bookend and backend before we talk wingers again.
I don't understand this whole rule of certain positions being worth certain dollars.... Each player is different, you pay them what they are worth, not for what position they play in... Hell, wingers are the ones that score majority of tries, and take the dirty hit ups, they should be on some of the biggest salaries....
supercoach
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Comparing wingers and props, or should I say stats is silly. They play different roles. These days the only defensive hit up a prop makes is off a kick off. Now wingers and centres take the first three defensive hit ups if not four. Props have their petrol saved for defence. Also they usually still trying to get back on side by play three.
Dont get me wrong, the modern day winger is a very important player
Dont get me wrong, the modern day winger is a very important player
jrtiger
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good post.
while the club has been slow to do the same, the recruitment of Skelton, Turuva and potentially Montoya or To'o speaks to the fact that they're trying to fix it. a fit Olam will help considerably as well.
the role of the middle forward has evolved considerably of late. in attack the lock is a third half, while the front rowers' jobs are to play off the lock and generate quick play the balls for the spine to play off. in Hunt, Pole and Sione Fainu we have those, but Klemmer and Twal are going to have to work tirelessly to give us that thru preseason.
defensively is where the middles are most important these days. it's why Hetherington has apparently been approached. Pole has some work to do on that part of his game, as does Sione.
big preseason ahead for our middles.
