Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

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hammertime said:
I think that's the different mentality between some of us. I was a balmain supporter, but I would have let them die there. They made some very dumb decisions. It's all about wests tigers moving forward. I'd be more than happy if balmain were completely removed from WT board. Just have a seat for HBG and veto power to wipe the board.

... and when we talk about funding. It's community money. The directors facilitate its distribution. Like all the leagues clubs in Australia. It's not shareholder or private money, with the exception of the debenture funding which should be ring-fenced.
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Trouble is HBG channelled much money to BRLFC to get rhe recent treachery.

Would you like to distribute funds to an entity that undermines it's benevolent umbrella owner?
 
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Magpie_Magic said:
Reality is all so called Balmain/Wests friction is emanating from official Balmain circles and their fans.

BRLFC recently threatened revolt.and previously the wiggles publicialy talked about the return of Balmain.


Let's just say that some people aren't happy with the recent treachery from the Balmain RLFC, where after having received millions from HBG which is meant to be a unifying structure came out talking that they wanted to go it alone., after they associated themselves with the review. Some may be concerned whether the whole process was a proxy for their interests especially since Shane was at pains to shut it down and there was a leak from the board which didn't receive censure.
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See you just pointed to exactly why I think the review was important, I'm not interested in playing a blame game here.

The comments from the Balmain directors, along with Benny and
Field were incredibly out of line.

So is the current behaviour from the HBG.

These types of things are the exact reason why I think we need seperation between the boards of the ownership groups and the Wests Tigers.

I am sick of these guys dragging out club through the mud and both Balmain and Wests magpies are the problem.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Trouble is HBG channelled much money to BRLFC to get rhe recent treachery.

Would you like to distribute funds to an entity that undermines it's benevolent umbrella owner?
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Let's be honest here, the HBG does get something out of the merger of Balmain leagues and the HBG.

I think the HBG support of Balmain junior leagues is a great thing, but ownership of the new Balmain leagues club is nothing to be sneezed at.

That is of course if the thing ever gets built lol
 
Magpie_Magic said:
You should've mentioned that to BRLFC.

By the way do you still want that Wiggle guy on the board?
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Not sure why you keep making this a wests balmain thing. How about we just put a blanket "no idiot" policy on anything related to WT. Yes, that includes BRLFC.

I'll tell you what, Anthony at least has run a very successful business. Already better qualifications than most.

We need to kill this balmain wests thing once and for all. Can't believe people still talk like this. It's been 25 God damn years.
 
hammertime said:
Not sure why you keep making this a wests balmain thing. How about we just put a blanket "no idiot" policy on anything related to WT. Yes, that includes BRLFC.

I'll tell you what, Anthony at least has run a very successful business. Already better qualifications than most.

We need to kill this balmain wests thing once and for all. Can't believe people still talk like this. It's been 25 God damn years.
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Can’t believe I read this.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Reality is all so called Balmain/Wests friction is emanating from official Balmain circles and their fans.

BRLFC recently threatened revolt.and previously the wiggles publicialy talked about the return of Balmain.


Let's just say that some people aren't happy with the recent treachery from the Balmain RLFC, where after having received millions from HBG which is meant to be a unifying structure came out talking that they wanted to go it alone., after they associated themselves with the review. Some may be concerned whether the whole process was a proxy for their interests especially since Shane was at pains to shut it down and there was a leak from the board which didn't receive censure.
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They think HBG directors are useless on the WestsTigers boards …pretty sure they’re not wrong there..
 
cochise said:
See you just pointed to exactly why I think the review was important, I'm not interested in playing a blame game here.

The comments from the Balmain directors, along with Benny and
Field were incredibly out of line.

So is the current behaviour from the HBG.

These types of things are the exact reason why I think we need seperation between the boards of the ownership groups and the Wests Tigers.

I am sick of these guys dragging out club through the mud and both Balmain and Wests magpies are the problem.
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But remember the Balmain directors and Shane levered off the review and the HBG spat is because of the results of it. There was no real Balmain/Wests instability at board level prior.

Some separation of powers can be useful especially in order to procure from a larger pool of candidates but Shane not shutting down runctions early and seemingly having influence over Barry and Danny mean some people are now worried that rather than an independent board we will have one dependent on other factions disloyal to and undermining unity and the owners interests.

The owners must appoint the independent directors from short-list.
 
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cktiger said:
They think HBG directors are useless on the WestsTigers boards …pretty sure they’re not wrong there..
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Really,

But they threatened to apply for an independent licence usurping the WT.

Funny way to go about things.

You have no idea how serious that matter was.
 
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cochise said:
Let's be honest here, the HBG does get something out of the merger of Balmain leagues and the HBG.

I think the HBG support of Balmain junior leagues is a great thing, but ownership of the new Balmain leagues club is nothing to be sneezed at.

That is of course if the thing ever gets built lol
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It may be but Sydney has changed for the worse and it may not be viable.

But primarily there was no ulterior motive from Wests group or HBG other than to keep everyone on the bus.

Zero attempt to exploit the situation.
 
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Magpie_Magic said:
But remember the Balmain directors and Shane levered off the review and the HBG spat is because of the results of it. There was no real Balmain/Wests instability at board level prior.

Some separation of powers can be useful especially in order to procure from a larger pool of candidates but Shane not shutting down runctions early and seemingly having influence over Barry and Danny mean some people are now worried that rather than an independent board we will have one dependent on other factions disloyal to and undermining unity and the owners interests.

The owners must appoint the independent directors from short-list.
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Again you just keep proving my point, Balmain were concerned about the speed of the recommendations being implemented.

I will say it one last time, both sides are the problem here, not just Balmain and not just HBG. I want people involved with the club striving for the best interests of the Wests Tigers, not for their long since NRL irrelevant former clubs and definitely not their personal best interests.

Give this club a professional, modern day administration or rack off out the club.
 
cochise said:
Again you just keep proving my point, Balmain were concerned about the speed of the recommendations being implemented.

I will say it one last time, both sides are the problem here, not just Balmain and not just HBG. I want people involved with the club striving for the best interests of the Wests Tigers, not for their long since NRL irrelevant former clubs and definitely not their personal best interests.

Give this club a professional, modern day administration or rack off out the club.
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Associating themselves with the review can be construed that perhaps Balmain RLFC was a party to the petition process or had an ulterior motive, especially considering their threats.

Many good things came out of the review process however you don't understand how serious that threat was. And any culmination of the so called governance changes you seek don't necessarily remove the type of threat that occurred.

The owners have an interest in the good of the whole HBG, not their personal interests. What you or I or anyone else see as best for the club is ultimately subjective.

In any case it seems that Barry's appointment wasn't exactly as recommended for example.

The owners must ultimately appoint directors from short-list.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Really,

But they threatened to apply for an independent licence usurping the WT.

Funny way to go about things.

You have no idea how serious that matter was.
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And usurping is a great description of what dinosaurs like Benny Elias and a few others that are aligned to the Balmain Tigers attempted to do Imo Magpie_Magic.
I feel another description could be coup de tat. And an action such as this Imo would have to cause unrest and distrust among the more reasonable board members.
And we are left to wonder why Wests Tigers don't function as a united body.
Fair Dinkum.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Associating themselves with the review can be construed that perhaps Balmain RLFC was a party to the petition process or had an ulterior motive, especially considering their threats.

Many good things came out of the review process however you don't understand how serious that threat was. And any culmination of the so called governance changes you seek don't necessarily remove the type of threat that occurred.

The owners have an interest in the good of the whole HBG, not their personal interests. What you or I or anyone else see as best for the club is ultimately subjective.

In any case it seems that Barry's appointment wasn't exactly as recommended for example.

The owners must ultimately appoint directors from short-list.
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Rubbish, Balmain had nothing to do with the petition.

Again proving my point, I don't want a board having an interest in the whole HBG, I want a board that is sole operating in the best interests of the Wests Tigers.

I do understand how serious the threat was, that is why we need this seperation, not just from the HBG but from Balmain and the Magpies as well because these groups do not have the best interests of the Wests Tigers as their primary focus and you admitted that yourself, even went to the effort to highlight it.
 
BZN said:
And usurping is a great description of what dinosaurs like Benny Elias and a few others that are aligned to the Balmain Tigers attempted to do Imo Magpie_Magic.
I feel another description could be coup de tat. And an action such as this Imo would have to cause unrest and distrust among the more reasonable board members.
And we are left to wonder why Wests Tigers don't function as a united body.
Fair Dinkum.
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Again this is not a Balmain v Wests issue, they are as bad as each other.
 
cochise said:
Rubbish, Balmain had nothing to do with the petition.
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Didn’t say they did. But they levered off it. Created alot of disappointment.
cochise said:
Again proving my point, I don't want a board having an interest in the whole HBG, I want a board that is sole operating in the best interests of the Wests Tigers.
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The WT board can be separate However naturally HBG wouldn't be happy an entity within the family threatened to take over the licence.
cochise said:
I do understand how serious the threat was, that is why we need this seperation, not just from the HBG but from Balmain and the Magpies as well because these groups do not have the best interests of the Wests Tigers as their primary focus and you admitted that yourself, even went to the effort to highlight it.
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HBG do have the best interests of WT in mind, despite their inability to execute in certain areas that's why they proceeded with the review. Having acceded with the recommendations they now find new factions developing.

The board must be truly independent without moving towards new factional control.

Those were the reviews recommendations anyway weren't they?
 
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