Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

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Richo agreed on the proviso that the board was changed. So yeah, you're reading it wrong.

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT BALMAIN. TAKE YOUR DIVISIVE RUBBISH ELSEWHERE.

Any bad sentiment is brought on by these divisive posts.
OK, thanks 👍 for letting me know ht.
 
This is an NRL forum … I think the Wests Magpies get discussed in a different sub forum
Do they really? 🙁 I darn well wasn't aware of that.
I'll have to search for that different sub forum.
No, you're just kidding me 😂, you really want me to look at submarines.
Yuh know, the older I get the more I kick myself 🥲for not joining the R.A.N.🚣‍♂️🚤🏂🚢when I was a youngster.
 
The purpose of the petition has been stated many times. It is not about supporting Andreacchio and Wayde.

They're all as culpable as each other for the performance of both Wests Magpies and subsequently WT. Wayde has been around since the 80s in various positions of influence for Wests Ashfield, Wests Magpies and Wests Tigers, which says something about the system Wests Magpies operates within generally.
When did I mention the purpose of the petition? I've already signed it.

I was talking about the lack of information around whatever happened with the 3 directors. It could be about keeping power for the other directors, but I doubt anyone here has both sides of the story.
 
you are just stirring shit now …

haven’t you got something better to do ?

I think you should follow your life dream and go and start up the West Sydney Bushrangers team
Sounds like a very good idea TS 👍, thank you and have a great day.
 
You're making things up. So is he, the facts are you're
going into bat 4 the same people that brought you
the Pascoe & Hagipantelis years. This isn't a balmain
or magpies thing, only so many different ways
different people can highlight that to you. This is
all driven by WT's failure. We want 2 win on & off
the field with legit partners/ premierships that's it...
Good post Kaito. I totally agree with you.
 
When did I mention the purpose of the petition? I've already signed it.

I was talking about the lack of information around whatever happened with the 3 directors. It could be about keeping power for the other directors, but I doubt anyone here has both sides of the story.
To be fair to that process , all the information that was released by that has been by the 3 directors themselves , outside of the initial email from Julie Romero regarding thier being banned from entering the premises .
Which was vague in detail , but by the very nature of the email insinuating wrong doing / revealing some kind of behaviour in breach of the code of conduct .
To be fair the fact they are talking about it , could be the reason the suspensions are 6 years and 9 years respectively.
None of the above to say it wasn’t a kangaroo court though . As I’ve said before , Andreccchio presided over the worst period in wests tigers history, maybe even Balmain tigers and wests magpies history as well .
He’s hardly a reliable narrator .
IMO they all need to go , and a fresh board appointed , even with Nominated HBG delegates to the Wests tigers board .
This is most morally and ethically responsible solution , and at least portrays a semblance of transparency and accountability.
It won’t happen though . Because no one on that HBG board seems to have the class and dignity to see the forest through the trees it seems .
Romero and Burgess are 💯 looking after thier spot in the corporate box , and looking over thier shoulder in regard to the review and the changing of the wests tigers constitution .
Andrecchio appears to be a survivalist to me , and is using the obvious about Romero and co , to gloss over that he’s just as accountable for the ineptitude at HBG and wests tigers level as well . He was very smart to publicly back the review , as it’s automatically positioned him positively in the eyes of us fans .
Like I said they call go and get stuffed . I reckon there’s probably 10 club presidents in the WSJRL and BTJRL who would do a million times better than these people . Let alone people from external corporates and other fields
 
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We just have to hope the playing structure of WT remains shielded from the board machinations- so far they have been. Yes, the crapshow gets media attention and is of concern but as long as the players themselves get no knock on effects Benji and Richardson should be able to separate the 2 things in discussions with players and managers. If the side then starts to get off the bottom of the table and shows progress, it must put pressure on the Board to get itself sorted,
Agree totally though only issue it does cause, it may stop potential players wanting to sign. We still need to go to market to finish rounding our squad out and the noise might make the Tigers look unstable.
 
To be fair to that process , all the information that was released by that has been by the 3 directors themselves , outside of the initial email from Julie Romero regarding thier being banned from entering the premises .
Which was vague in detail , but by the very nature of the email insinuating wrong doing / revealing some kind of behaviour in breach of the code of conduct .
To be fair the fact they are talking about it , could be the reason the suspensions are 6 years and 9 years respectively.
None of the above to say it wasn’t a kangaroo court though . As I’ve said before , Andreccchio presided over the worst period in wests tigers history, maybe even Balmain tigers and wests magpies history as well .
He’s hardly a reliable narrator .
IMO they all need to go , and a fresh board appointed , even with Nominated HBG delegates to the Wests tigers board .
This is most morally and ethically responsible solution , and at least portrays a semblance of transparency and accountability.
It won’t happen though . Because no one on that HBG board seems to have the class and dignity to see the forest through the trees it seems .
Main thing is we get our 4 independent directors, once that's done we're autonomous and if the rats from both sides of that useless HBG boardroom want to eat each other, they can go crazy. They're all as useless as eachother. I just back the 3 kicked because they agreed we should have the independants.
 
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If we only we could trade you for your brother, Dennis.

He was an actual musician with talent (and far more integrity I’d bet).

Your only talent is leeching off the hard work of others for so long, whether that be in music or rugby league.
Yes, Dennis would knock your socks off if he was on here.
And yes again, he definitely was an actual musician with talent.
And blimey, I'm agreeing with you AGAIN, that's 3 times, what's going on here?
Maybe I've been got at by the dark side sending special rays thru my computer, but I don't feel any different, how weird is that?
Oops, nearly forgot...Dennis has "far more integrity".
 
This is pretty strong talk.

Yuh wanna "make it personal". Sounds like threatening language to me.
Then you claim Burgess has been anti Wests Tigers for as long as we have existed.
To say this, you must have inside knowledge, and you actually know that for a fact.
Then you hope the other 3 get thrown under the bus.
This is equivalent to the great Alan Jones saying Julia Gillard should be put in a chaff bag and dumped at sea...just disgusting talk coming from a bat.
G'day @KevB...I don't know who you are or where you have sprung from, but a big, friendly 😀and warm 🌞 welcome to the latest round of...???....???....I'll leave you to fill in the missing words👍.
 
Yes, Dennis would knock your socks off if he was on here.
And yes again, he definitely was an actual musician with talent.
And blimey, I'm agreeing with you AGAIN, that's 3 times, what's going on here?
Maybe I've been got at by the dark side sending special rays thru my computer, but I don't feel any different, how weird is that?
Oops, nearly forgot...Dennis has "far more integrity".
Brian May is a musician with talent, Mark Knopfler is a musician with talent, could list more but not every musician has talent, as with any job/career there are some who have the talent to excel at what they do however most are adequate enough to get by and get their job done without being anything special.

Dennis Burgess is adequate at the job he did within the music industry to make a career from it but is nothing more.
 
probably because Leo is irrelevant to the Wests Tigers ….Why do you think people need to comment on those that are irrelevant ? Also he is like 80 years old and I’ve heard has some health issues …RL Administration is a younger mans game these days…

But you tell me your reasons?
I really do hope that Leo's health improves 🙏TS as 80 is not old these days.

No, I don't feel a need to atpit. Aren't these abbreviations like atpit wonderful as they save you so much time 😛.
You can torture me by forcing me to watch old Balmain matches continuously for 3 hours, but I still won't tell my reasons.
 
Out of interest. Do you think the board, which included Burgess and Romero, did a good job while they held those positions?

Factually speaking, they were part of 3 wooden spoons in a row. Do we need any more facts than that? It's in plain view. It doesn't need to be fact checked to know it was a failure and they all lost their jobs accordingly.

You can't keep sacking players, CEO'S and coaches if they're the ones signing off on the appointments can you? When are we allowed to start blaming the people that approve all the failures? They lost their jobs and rightly so. The travesty is that they've somehow regained some power and are now making a mess of things yet again. These people ARE the problem along with the biased debenture holders.
Re. Burgess and Romeo it is what it is.

Did you read the excellent 10/10 book Animal Farm wt.
If you haven't, I apologise in advance as I am about to give the punch line away.
The animals took over the running of the farm while getting rid of all humans, and the farm still didn't work.
 
G'day weststigers...I hope your new year has started off exceptionally well.

Now, I have no need or desire to list my agenda AGAIN.

@cochise started all this clap trap about me WANTING THE MAGPIE'S BACK... because he didn't want to read my original post back in 2019 with an open heart.

@cochise said in a post yesterday he doesn't mind how often I criticize him, so I'll say what I have said before.

I am convinced he was Very Anti Magpie in 2019 so yes, I admit I took a defensive stand re. the Mighty Magpies, and the vibes I am still getting today is he is Still Anti Magpie, so I still don't believe he is working for the betterment of both sides of Our JV.

weststigers, I feel also if you have been reading my posts [which I doubt... but that's ok... as I do tend to pen some rather long and probably boring posts 🥲] with an open mind you would know well and truly by now where I stand.

End of another rather long and probably boring post...See Yuh 🙂
I think you'll find for old Wests and Balmain supporters, there is a place in our hearts reserved specially for them, BUT, I think most of us are both anti-Balmain and anti-Wests for the simple reason that the merger factions have held us back for so long.

You are going after @cochise about being Anti-Wests, but to put it more succinctly, it's not so much about being anti-Wests. It's being anti-debenture and pro-Wests Tigers. If it was a Balmain affiliated member doing the same thing, we would all be saying things the opposite way.

It's not much interest which side the owners align with if the one in power has no accountability. That's all that's being asked for and frankly, it's only us that has this system, so it's not an Anti-Magpie thing. It's about getting with the times.

We formed a new club called Wests Tigers. It could have been called anything. It is not a toy to play out the fantasies and grievances of old Balmain and Wests fans let alone sitting board members with zero accountability to the members.
 
How do you know burgess ? People have been asking you flat out for the last month ! It’s clear as day you’re connected to him somehow !
If it's as clear as day Lestronge, you definitely don't need a new script for your monocle.
 
Re. Burgess and Romeo it is what it is.

Did you read the excellent 10/10 book Animal Farm wt.
If you haven't, I apologise in advance as I am about to give the punch line away.
The animals took over the running of the farm while getting rid of all humans, and the farm still didn't work.
Yes I've read it and what you've missed in that story is the replacement of one dictator with another.

No one is advocating for dictatorial power over the club. Just a fair system where the members are represented instead of 18 people who paid $100 deciding the direction of the club. The issue HBG has is that it is a not for profit members club. As such, there needs to be representation for those members like all the other clubs in NSW. It's akin to Albanese appointing the next prime minister rather than having an election to determine the will.of the people.
 
Lee was no victim ! He was paying 1m for a sponsorship worth more , and milked it for every last dollar . His incompetence around contract negotiations , which people can call naivety, was enough to undermine his position .
Then there’s the revenue fudging , and membership numbers , and the fiscally irresponsible persuasion of getting the club to retain Nofa , it’s a long list of reasons he was put in front of the firing squad .

No doubt. They're all responsible. The governance and oversight of the entire board has been awful.

What I am getting at in general, is for years, Lee and Pascoe copped the ire of supporters as the public faces and voices of the board and executive. But if fans were informed at how the board was comprised, rather than simply relying on Lee's appearances on 360 and other sound bites, and articles in the media, it has always been apparent who were the big dogs on the WT board. Same as the Marina Go period. And this is what has frustrated me for years.

HBG & WM were effectively a block of 5 on an 8 to 9 person board. So they're negligent in allowing Lee to do whatever he did, because they had to support it based on the numbers.

Independent board members and chairpersons, CEO's, football managers, coaches and staff, players, etc have all been hired and fired. But the constant in the past decade has been HBG and the little rotation on the WT board of HBG reps, because there has been little rotation of board members at HBG. It's a fiefdom. Once you're in at HBG, it was hard to be kicked out unless you were struck down by illness or death. It's worse than the Aussie Cricket team. Well until now, because three of their clan decided that new ideas, new voices, and new blood was needed at the football club to allow it to thrive. The others see board representation as free access to the directors box and changerooms, power and prestige, something they don't want to give up.

I'm glad it's finally got to the stage the supporters are aware of it now. Unfortunately, it's taken 3 consecutive wooden spoons, and basically, a descent to joke status for the club for it to happen. Thanks to the relevant podcasts for their work in getting the word out!
 
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