I mean... not sure we have attack coaching. You're just encouraged to play what's in front of you because Tim Sheens told Benji that and it worked for him.
The Doueihi move
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Tom Shines
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They have had plenty of time to sign him up by now …looks likely he is leaving
weststigerman
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That plan only works if you have a Benji in your team. This style might work for the Broncos who have X factor all over the park, but not us.
Jolls
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Sorry mate I don't agree. Yes the harbour bridge scutout and the kick on the money to a back is X factor level and Campbell showed it. However, if the pass went to ground or the kick went to ground it would have had the defence in two minds and providing time and space to play our game plan.
The X factor may be applicable to us - but NSW had Cleary and Lomax/Latrell as options and didn't go there. I really think the odern game is so much about structure and patience that when you are prevented from playing how you want to players lack the brains to adapt.
Ever since Adam was a boy a compressed defence with quick line speed is susceptible to a well executed kicking game or the ability to shift quickly. So a bit more depth and a wide shift you can go round and a well executed kick you have them running backwards and on a good day retrieve the ball in good field postion if you don't covert it into ponts.
You don't need an X factor - you need a player that can read a game - not just the moment.
jirskyr
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I don't quite agree, he did a lot for straightening the attack when he was on.
I sat behind the posts, you could see both Latu and Luai playing a little bit too laterally but Doueihi played straight. It was especially clear when Doueihi went off, we got a little leggy sideways again, then he came back on and we went more direct.
We scored all 3 tries on our left, barge-overs, after dragging the Titans to the middle then sweeping wide. And I'm pretty sure Doueihi was on the field for all of them - in fact yes he was for sure, he took the conversions.
innsaneink
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I noticed it.myself yesterday...wether hes gassed or what i dunno.but theres definitley some periods of non urgency...seeing what jolls was alluding to earlier
king_sirro
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I sat behind the posts to and it was very enlightening seeing how our attack operates. There is so much improvement to be made if they take the right approach and get the reps in at training.
innsaneink
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Just read @Mighty_Tiger stats.....he was likely pretty gassed.
Gotta give credit as well to Latu....the pass left to right to douehi for the one pointer could not have been better...it was perfect and it was long, a kicker having to take.a step left or right or reach above to recieve the ball can make all the difference
Jolls
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AD did OK in Defence - 30 odd tackles in 60 minutes with 89% effectiveness if I recall correctly. He was not outstanding but did his job. Less room for them to manoeuvre probably helps his decision making. IT wasn't an outstanding performance on either side of the ball, but it is an exercise worth continuing with.
Thanks Jolls
I was hoping his defence improved and sounds like it did.
I think he makes a good option for a 14 going forward I just don’t think he’s ego will like not being in the starting 13.
I’ll play devils advocate here. If our problem is our halves play too laterally and not straight enough is having a lock play before them allowing them to play even more laterally the best thing long term?
Isn’t the answer that both our halves need to start playing direct with running options inside and out and just digging out a channel in the defence down the line?
Tiger Tarl
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He asked for $500k. Richo doesn't want to spend more than $300k. So AD sent Moses to have a sniff elsewhere but mainly to put pressure on Richo. He wants to stay but wants to be paid.
That was all before the lock move though so me thinks there may be a discussion coming re. his commitment to add weight and focus on that position (become our Yeo). If he still sees himself as a half, then I agree with others on here that he may take a one-year extension for less than he wants and try for a Perth position in 2027 on more coin.
Tom Shines
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Be interesting to see if Perth want him …I suspect Moses would know by now the amount of interest from them …I think your figures might be spot on actually ..
tig_prmz
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100%
We went laterally too often without engaging the middle. The Titans always had numbers out wide and we didn't strip them for numbers. It was a couple of May brilliances or offloads that helped us get line breaks.
BlackWhiteGold
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Big games coming up against Panthers & Bulldogs for AD. If he proves he can succeed as a lock & be an influence against those calibre teams, offer him $450k for year 1 & then $500k for year 2 to be starting lock.
Tom Shines
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I don’t get the vibes Richo is gunna offer him that kinda money ..
jirskyr
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That's part of the answer, but also it's become quite the trend NOT to have your halves continually dig into the line because they are getting ironed out all match.
Cameron Murray started the trend and then Yeo solidified the style for Penrith, of the link-up lock who can take the run and draw defenders, but also cop a hit if he has to.
You look at the Roosters, one problem they continue to have is all their eggs are in Sam Walker's halves basket, but he cannot handle 80 mins of defensive traffic every week, nor can he dig into the line without getting regularly hammered.
May and Skelton score yesterday because the Tigers had successfully drawn the Titans defence into the middle (straight play) then a good shift wide. No cut-outs required, no mad tackle busts, just get your edges outside their edges and carry them over.
