Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Vicious]

Two weeks in a row I've noticed a real poor attacking approach.

Predictable and everything targeted to the middle. Our edges are so underutilised.

Embarrassment.

We need to utilise the entire field and all attacking angles, not just trying to score under the posts every time.

Send every set to the left, get em comfortable, thinking the left is on, then go right. Idk... surely there's some kind of intelligence in the coaching room that can see what we're doing isn't working and we need to DO MORE.

Spot on, but we need more speed within our team to allow this to work effectively.
I like your call to sign Sione Finau, I hope someone is listening.

 

[Demps]

Spit on, but we need more speed within our team to allow this to work effectively.
I like your call to sign Sione Finau, I hope someone is listening.

My other favourite new winger is Tamale @ Raiders.

Sione though, he looks like he's the next big thing.
Fast. Smart. Good hands.
He's going to be a weapon.

 

[mtd#2]

A few of us can see it… Api and Luai must be able to as well having been part of successful sides previously… surely they must be letting BM know ?

Youd think so, right?

I think they already have one eye on 2026...

In the post match presser, it sounded like the tigers wanted to play a Penrith style of football yesterday. The only reason you'd do that is if you were at the same calibre (which we aren't) or you wanted to test yourselves against the 4 time premiers who have won 6 in a row...

Its like douhei to #13.. they seem to be trying things to set them up for next year. If that's the case I don't mind, as long as we don't get the spoon this year and it reaps some reward in 2026.

 

[crazycat]

Klemmer was a better option than Twal, let that sink in.

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They are similar, Twal has done twice as many offloads and over 3x as many Tackle breaks. His errors are higher, but you look at our forwards and they are being flogged playing long minutes. If they both played the same minutes the error rate may be less.

Ofcourse we should have kept one of Paps, Bateman, Klem or Stefano and Klem was probably the most realistic chance of keeping.

But we should have kept Klemmer out of desperation for needing a front row. On balance, Twal is just outperforming Klem. Add the Salary cap in and Klem is clearly on far more coin. There is nothing in Klem's onfield performance that shows a more then average first grade effort.

 

[oldschooltiger]

A Kurt Donoghue/Ray Stone lock combo would be sensational Demps. Surely the Dolphins would be satisfied to keep Plath with Morgan Knowles coming too to let those two go.

Can they bring there coach down as well.

 

[BirchgroveTigers]

Given their current positions in their respective squads, the two guys I would be enquiring about for next season are Trey Mooney (bench middle) and J’maine Hopgood (lock).

With Papali’i looking likely to stay at Canberra, they may be willing to let Mooney go. We enquired about Mooney before June 30 but were knocked back, however that was when Canberra thought Papali’i would be leaving.

Hopgood has been moved to prop in recent weeks with Ryles preferring Dylan Walker in the lock role.

These two would improve our 17 immensely and leave guys like Seyfarth, Twal, Bird and Doueihi all fighting for one bench spot and the others in Cup (depth).

Absolutely yes on Hopgood. When he first moved to Parra his form was unbelievable- he hasn’t hit those heights this season but I still think he is an above average lock forward.

IMO lock is our biggest weakness for next season. I think Douiehi is capable of turning into the lock we need, but wouldn’t hesitate for even half a second to buy Hopgood instead if he was available.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

He'd be the best 13 we've had since Elijah Taylor

Wonder what other clubs would be interested or have the cash / position available?

And if you saw Kurt Donoghue in town this weekend @Demps maybe it included a visit to Concord 😉 Cmon Tigers make the Donoghue-Stone package a reality!

 

[Tcat]

Why the hell haven't our coaches addressed this?

Benji seems to be very much into the "fast footy" gameplan of Sheens and you look at his squad he is actually improving on Sheen's plan....

So why the slow line speed? We have a fast-ish team. Are there slow pokes in the line and Benji is trying to get us to hold the line?? That I would get as we need the line to move together so that gaps don't form... but we need to be quick into the opposition else they get room to move and plan. We had this sorted at the start of the year.

Far too much experimentation going on. Keep it simple.

It's like the team hasn't got the fitness or muscle to do it. Get the Fu.king defensive coach to make sure we move harder off the line for the whole game and I think we will notice a real difference in how we can attack. We can't keep allowing teams to make 40m on us and us make 20-30m. We need to move hard off the line and slow the oppositions attack down in the wrestle. These pricks train enough and earn enough money to do it. If they can't handle it, then piss them off.

 

[Demps]

And if you saw Kurt Donoghue in town this weekend @Demps maybe it included a visit to Concord 😉 Cmon Tigers make the Donoghue-Stone package a reality!

Sorry bra, I live in Newcastle.
Kurt's a local.

Probably visited his old Knights buddies though.

 

[Modman]

Why the hell haven't our coaches addressed this?

Benji seems to be very much into the "fast footy" gameplan of Sheens and you look at his squad he is actually improving on Sheen's plan....

So why the slow line speed? We have a fast-ish team. Are there slow pokes in the line and Benji is trying to get us to hold the line?? That I would get as we need the line to move together so that gaps don't form... but we need to be quick into the opposition else they get room to move and plan. We had this sorted at the start of the year.

Far too much experimentation going on. Keep it simple.

The line speed yesterday from tackle 1 was terrible at its been all year I don't see how tge coaching staff don't do anything abt it. There are Areas in our game that regardless of talent we just don't do. Moving up in defence is one that is unacceptable

 

[Ron Brodrick's Spirit]

Manly are getting smacked by a top team.
They'd better cry all night, sack the board, sack the coach and all the players and just start again hey?

 

[The Chad]

Sorry bra, I live in Newcastle.
Kurt's a local.

Probably visited his old Knights buddies though.

Living in Newcastle- get to cast your eye over the Knights KOE side?

Mason Teague?

 

[Demps]

Didnt relaise Kaeo Weeks was off contract, Id be absolutley signing him now and trying to get him for this year. He obviously wont get a start ahead of Turbo and looks NRL ready

Wish we did this when I suggested back in 2023.

Kids a beast.

 

[The Chad]

The line speed yesterday from tackle 1 was terrible at its been all year I don't see how tge coaching staff don't do anything abt it. There are Areas in our game that regardless of talent we just don't do. Moving up in defence is one that is unacceptable

Line speed is often a mentality. I honestly believe we lack 'aggressive' footballers who crave the collision.

Everyone has valid points on here.

For mine- the way to win at Rugby League hasn't changed, despite trends.

You still win in the trenches. And the Tigers do not win the trenches.

We have a collection of pretty good middles. May, Pole, Fainu, Twal, Seyfarth, Hunt...all of them have their good values.

But not one of them is aggressive in contact. No hitters. No JWH style guys. Nobody that, when the game is turning against us, can grab the team & lead the way.

Hunt is the guy that MIGHT have been able to do it, but he plays too few minutes & too few involvements.

If we cannot win the ruck, the collision...if we cannot turn momentum when it's against us...if we cannot throw something at a team like the Panthers when they are shutting us down- it doesn't matter how good your halves & centres are.

I don't know a better way of saying it...I think we need a couple of thugs in the middle to make teams NOT want to play us.

 

[Vicious]

Line speed is often a mentality. I honestly believe we lack 'aggressive' footballers who crave the collision.

Everyone has valid points on here.

For mine- the way to win at Rugby League hasn't changed, despite trends.

You still win in the trenches. And the Tigers do not win the trenches.

We have a collection of pretty good middles. May, Pole, Fainu, Twal, Seyfarth, Hunt...all of them have their good values.

But not one of them is aggressive in contact. No hitters. No JWH style guys. Nobody that, when the game is turning against us, can grab the team & lead the way.

Hunt is the guy that MIGHT have been able to do it, but he plays too few minutes & too few involvements.

If we cannot win the ruck, the collision...if we cannot turn momentum when it's against us...if we cannot throw something at a team like the Panthers when they are shutting us down- it doesn't matter how good your halves & centres are.

I don't know a better way of saying it...I think we need a couple of thugs in the middle to make teams NOT want to play us.

💯 correct, but these types of players are becoming very rare.

 

[The Chad]

💯 correct, but these types of players are becoming very rare.

I think someone said the other day we had one of the worst packs in the NRL.

I disagree.

But, we have the pack least likely to try & smack teams around.

It's not a skillset we miss, but attitude. And 2-3 guys in the middle can change it. In fact, if we had 2 guys leading the charge, I believe Royce Hunt could be the third guy.

There are not many JWH's in the game. But there are several Sam McIntyre's. (Just an example). Nearly all teams have a guy or two that go looking for collisions.

We miss that.

 

[Demps]

I think someone said the other day we had one of the worst packs in the NRL.

I disagree.

But, we have the pack least likely to try & smack teams around.

It's not a skillset we miss, but attitude. And 2-3 guys in the middle can change it. In fact, if we had 2 guys leading the charge, I believe Royce Hunt could be the third guy.

There are not many JWH's in the game. But there are several Sam McIntyre's. (Just an example). Nearly all teams have a guy or two that go looking for collisions.

We miss that.

Probably lacked it since Daine Laurie (the forward) and a fired up Russel Packer

We had a past his prime Klemmer, who no one fears.

I think Samuela could become the type.
But yeah, another "hitter" type would be great.

That's why I'd like a Ray Stone or Kurt D[unlikely) at 13... a type who has some ball playing but hits like a mack truck, from any angle.

 

[The Chad]

Probably lacked it since Daine Laurie (the forward) and a fired up Russel Packer

We had a past his prime Klemmer, who no one fears.

I think Samuela could become the type.
But yeah, another "hitter" type would be great.

That's why I'd like a Ray Stone or Kurt D[unlikely) at 13... a type who has some ball playing but hits like a mack truck, from any angle.

I'm not suggesting that he's the answer, but from what I've seen of him, I do wonder if Kit Lualili'i might ACTUALLY have the mentality we need.

There are holes in his game, but he plays at 125% energy.

 

[Vicious]

I'm not suggesting that he's the answer, but from what I've seen of him, I do wonder if Kit Lualili'i might ACTUALLY have the mentality we need.

There are holes in his game, but he plays at 125% energy.

Kit has improved his ball running this season, but I’m yet to see him hit hard in defence and that’s what he needs to do if he is to become a regular NRL player.
Taateo looks a more aggressive type in attack and defence and that’s what makes him an interesting prospect.

 

[Demps]

I'm not suggesting that he's the answer, but from what I've seen of him, I do wonder if Kit Lualili'i might ACTUALLY have the mentality we need.

There are holes in his game, but he plays at 125% energy.

I'm a big fan of the Lualilii brothers.

It's an interesting statement.
Both lads seen like "nice guys." To me.

I saw Luke @ the boxing a few weeks back and he isn't as small as you'd think but he does come across as a shy, quiet, type and Kitt is much the same, imo.

The energy might be there but I think they lack the mongrel aspect... I could be wrong though but a fired up Kitt coming off the bench and flooring everyone and anyone in front of him, is something I'd love to see.