Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

weststigers said:
I think we look at players that go elsewhere and kick on and apply their recruitment strategy to ourselves.

If you have a strong system, like Melbourne and the Roosters, then you can train the players to be better and defend their errors while they are on that journey.

Marika was in our system for 4 years and we didn't improve him in those areas.

Until we have that, those players will be a liability for us and they won't realise their potential at our club. It starts with funding.
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Agreed, but lets talk of a more modern player in our system. I mean Koroibete I think is sitting in the retirement chair now and if he isn't, he ain't coming here.

Nofo at least was in our team for ages, known as a poor defender and we barely improved him at all.

I think the key problem was we did not take a 2 progn'd approach to defense:
We had either a backs coach, working on backline
OR
we had a forwards coach working on tackling...

When Nathan Cayless came here, I kinda expected big things. Nothing happened.
Looking at Parramatta, they have 4 assistants including Cayless.

We definately need 2 assistants on Defense, one working the front row. The other working the backs. Your outer edge defense is critical. Yet Melbourne and Penrith worked out were vulnerable in the middle.
 
supercoach said:
The trees are starting to shake let’s hope we can out leap the other people trying to catch the falling fruit. Also let’s hope we get some prior info on any future shaking trees, you don’t want to fill your basket on the first windy day
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Yep seems like some roster movement is starting to happen. Trey Mooney I’m pretty sure has 3 years left on his Canberra contract
 
Tcat said:
Agree. I think I've seen Toa have about 1 good game and that when we pumped NQ by about 60 pts a few years ago. Other than that, I don't think he'd play 1st grade for anyone else. He can beat it with Twal. Both are ineffective in their positions. (Spare me Twals stats too, he's a work horse but that hasn't helped us win).
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To'a has about 4 good games a season where he looks like a world beater.

The remaining 20 games he's either injured or doesn't look interested.

His defensive application is awful.
 
diedpretty said:
I'm not doubting the 1.8 million grant from HBG but you only use the dogs as a comparison - what about throwing in Warriors, Cronulla, Manly, and Canberra who are all in the bottom 6 clubs for commercial revenue yet 2 are in the Top4, 1 is in the 8 and 1 is just outside the 8. They seem to be doing ok on not much more than the tigers.
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I chose Canterbury because they are right in the middle and they happen to be a geographic competitor. Makes more sense than comparing with say, the Broncos or Dolphins.

Since 2000, teams on the list from 1-6 have won 17/25 premierships. Parramatta are in that list and have won 0...so 5 clubs have won 17 of the 25 grand finals since 2000.

I'll exclude the Dolphins because they are new, but from the remaining 10 teams you have 8/25 premierships and Manly won 2 of them. The gap in success starts to look pretty dire when viewed over the long term.

I guess if your logic is to only look at the now, then you're right. 2 clubs are doing ok with little revenue. We also won something once...don't you want to do it more regularly?
 
Bus 2 Terrigal said:
This post had me thinking back to Kerry Packer’s classic senate estimates spray when he told the powers that be -

“I am not evading tax in any way, shape, or form. Now, of course I am minimising my tax, and if anybody in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want the heads read. Because as a government, I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra.

HBG could well mount the same argument 👍
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Then sell the joint to someone or a consortium who has half a clue about business and building success who actually sees the value in the club as something more than their personal plaything for them to get free gameday seating and drinks from. HBG are deadbeat owners. If they don't realise we're struggling because they're underfunding us they're complete morons.
 
Bus 2 Terrigal said:
This post had me thinking back to Kerry Packer’s classic senate estimates spray when he told the powers that be -

“I am not evading tax in any way, shape, or form. Now, of course I am minimising my tax, and if anybody in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want the heads read. Because as a government, I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra.

HBG could well mount the same argument 👍
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Yeah mate, well they certainly can't go much lower can they?

Maybe they want to break the record for the most amount of wooden spoons in a row?
 
balmain boy said:
Toa has done nothing to earn a pay rise or even an extension. We need to find better, we can't keep lamenting our lack of pace, X factor and poor defence am but then keep re-signing the same players with these issues
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To'a used to be good for one good game a year. By my count he's had three really good games this year. He's trending upwards.
 
liltiger said:
Then sell the joint to someone or a consortium who has half a clue about business and building success who actually sees the value in the club as something more than their personal plaything for them to get free gameday seating and drinks from. HBG are deadbeat owners. If they don't realise we're struggling because they're underfunding us they're complete morons.
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Do the sponsors meet that clown Burgess? If I was a sponsor I'd run if I knew he had anything to do with my sponsorship money.
 
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