HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

The Chad said:
I think a large portion of the fan base will support the Tigers regardless of HBG. It's nothing to do with kool-aid & everything to do with just supporting the club you love.

Now, you can stop watching the Tigers, get all bitter & hold a grudge against the evil HBG empire & stop getting any enjoyment from football if you like.

But I expect most fans will not follow suit.
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Last year may have been somewhat enjoyable for you Chad. I enjoyed the tear’s grit. Richo & his board along with the football department improved the team.

As of a week ago, the club is now being run by a small group of people with no real skills to do so, you enjoy that.
 
The Chad said:
I think a large portion of the fan base will support the Tigers regardless of HBG. It's nothing to do with kool-aid & everything to do with just supporting the club you love.

Now, you can stop watching the Tigers, get all bitter & hold a grudge against the evil HBG empire & stop getting any enjoyment from football if you like.

But I expect most fans will not follow suit.
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You're assigning feelings to me again Chad 🇹🇩

I identify as chilled and not worked up.

I have actually never said I would not support the team. I will just continue to campaign to get HBG out.

Not sure if you remember Nathan Tinkler when he owned the Knights? If the owners have nothing to do with results, what do you think contributed to their issues under his ownership? Even the great Wayne Bennett couldn't get anything out of them.

And before you get worked up about me being worked up. I can assure you...I'm not worked up.
 
Telltails said:
It's not about perception when it comes to governance and failure. Up until recently I think very few understood how the board were elected and their entitlement to those positions.
I can tell you I had no idea about the debenture system when Pascoe was appointed.
There is no accountability for their immense power to control the direction of the club which they exercised this week. And history will show that their is a common denominator in our failure and they are still there
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When did HBG assume control of the Wests Tigers?

If we want to assign blame for a moment when failure began, lets start with what started the process.

Then you can work your way back to rectifying the situation.

I have my theories on when things went sideways, but I'm 'really worried' that I might get called an apologist, kool-aid drinker or even a Magpies fan. I'd be interested to hear when the HBG group assumed control & started the clubs downward spiral into oblivion.
 
The Chad said:
I think a large portion of the fan base will support the Tigers regardless of HBG. It's nothing to do with kool-aid & everything to do with just supporting the club you love.

Now, you can stop watching the Tigers, get all bitter & hold a grudge against the evil HBG empire & stop getting any enjoyment from football if you like.

But I expect most fans will not follow suit.
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Your probably correct...most league fans arent interested in BS club politics...they just wanna cheer for their team
 
The Chad said:
"The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly."

"Player signings? Only once they were out of the way." We have only signed players at the club after HBG had put in some independent board members?

Why did Richo put in clauses? Don't know. Because he wanted to ensure he worked with Barry O'Farrell? Who knows? Why didn't previous CEO's have those clauses?

You can be as pissy with me as you want. I don't care. I'm not happy Richo left. But, it's not about to change my support of the club. I don't follow the CEO. I hope the next guy is good. And until someone with more clout than HBG takes over the club, I'm not about to let it get me so worked up that every post is akin to the sky falling on my head.

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.
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Mate your apathetic response , is the reason we have been shit for 25 years . Because that’s how we all felt. I’m gonna live the club regardless. Only by being apathetic do we allow these people to go unchecked . We have lost a whole generation of fans by this ineptitude . This is history repeating itself.these guys have sacked 8 board members in less than a year 3 chairmen and 2 ceo . Do you know how crazy that is ..// it’s bonkers. It’s like we are being run entitled rich kid with ADHD . It’s soo dysfunctional.
 
The Chad said:
All good Bro. Your message is a little mixed, but all good.

Do I think HBG are great. Nope.

Do I like that Richo is gone? No.

The agenda people are talking about WAS brought up by Lee Hagipentalis. Now, this can be taken two ways. It could support an argument. Or it could make you remember a lot of the things Lee used to say when he was on the board & make you question it internally a little.

Whatever the reason is for what HBG have done- I can pretty much guarantee that my level of outrage about it will make zero difference.

So again, I hope the next guy is good. And I hope we win in Round 2. And anything that happens between now & then....well, it happens.
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In any war, we have those that watch and those that fight...as you say...it happens
 
BAGNF05 said:
Last year may have been somewhat enjoyable for you Chad. I enjoyed the tear’s grit. Richo & his board along with the football department improved the team.

As of a week ago, the club is now being run by a small group of people with no real skills to do so, you enjoy that.
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Every year is somewhat enjoyable. If it isn't, what are you doing wasting your precious time doing something you don't enjoy?
 
Lestronge said:
Mate your apathetic response , is the reason we have been shit for 25 years . Because that’s how we all felt. I’m gonna live the club regardless. Only by being apathetic do we allow these people to go unchecked . We have lost a whole generation of fans by this ineptitude . This is history repeating itself.these guys have sacked 8 board members in less than a year 3 chairmen and 2 ceo . Do you know how crazy that is ..// it’s bonkers. It’s like we are being run entitled rich kid with ADHD . It’s soo dysfunctional.
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You don't build support by eating guys like Chad alive. It might be another 3 spoons for him to come on board, but hopefully by then we will have seen some change and he doesn't have to get off his couch.
 
weststigers said:
You're assigning feelings to me again Chad 🇹🇩

I identify as chilled and not worked up.

I have actually never said I would not support the team. I will just continue to campaign to get HBG out.

Not sure if you remember Nathan Tinkler when he owned the Knights? If the owners have nothing to do with results, what do you think contributed to their issues under his ownership? Even the great Wayne Bennett couldn't get anything out of them.

And before you get worked up about me being worked up. I can assure you...I'm not worked up.
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Chill out mate. Tinkler went bust.

Maybe HBG will too?

Of course, the Knights have had nothing but success since...
 
The Chad said:
What do we base that on though?

Financially, were the club any worse than over 50% of the other NRL clubs? Pascoe used to bang on about membership numbers & finances going up all the time.

Or are we talking success on the field? Because either we absolve all the previous coaches of their responsibility & it's all HBG's fault, or HBG put coaches like Sheens, Maguire etc in front of the players & the coaches failed.

I'm not a HBG stooge/supporter or anything like that. It's just that the rhetoric at the moment is being fuelled by a lot of fear of the unknown.
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I base it on evidence mate 15 years without finals for a start.

A review that the HBG commissioned that found serious governance issues at the club and recommended the board be restructured and an experienced CEO to be appointed.

Under those changes we saw the first upward trends at the club in at least 5 years, On measurable indicators.

This progress has been thrown out by the group that the review recommended separation from.

You want to play these games then you better have evidence because I do.
 
Lestronge said:
Mate your apathetic response , is the reason we have been shit for 25 years . Because that’s how we all felt. I’m gonna live the club regardless. Only by being apathetic do we allow these people to go unchecked . We have lost a whole generation of fans by this ineptitude . This is history repeating itself.these guys have sacked 8 board members in less than a year 3 chairmen and 2 ceo . Do you know how crazy that is ..// it’s bonkers. It’s like we are being run entitled rich kid with ADHD . It’s soo dysfunctional.
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I get that.

But raging against the machine in a chat room doesn't change that.

Taking veiled pot-shots at each other over the machinations of a few richer guys isn't fixing it.

I don't think having a Wests Tigers party on Saturday fixes it.

I suggested a few days back that when Souths needed intervention that the club/fans/etc got together & brought in a wealthy benefactor.

If HBG is all about making money, the way to shift them is through money.

I can't buy the club & don't know enough rich people.

So I hope the next CEO is good.
 
The Chad said:
When did HBG assume control of the Wests Tigers?

If we want to assign blame for a moment when failure began, lets start with what started the process.

Then you can work your way back to rectifying the situation.

I have my theories on when things went sideways, but I'm 'really worried' that I might get called an apologist, kool-aid drinker or even a Magpies fan. I'd be interested to hear when the HBG group assumed control & started the clubs downward spiral into oblivion.
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I think you know without having to ask me.
 
cochise said:
I base it on evidence mate 15 years without finals for a start.

A review that the HBG commissioned that found serious governance issues at the club and recommended the board be restructured and an experienced CEO to be appointed.

Under those changes we saw the first upward trends at the club in at least 5 years, On measurable indicators.

This progress has been thrown out by the group that the review recommended separation from.

You want to play these games then you better have evidence because I do.
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But, after throwing out the board members & having the CEO resign, what are the next moves?

People are acting like they know exactly what happens next. What if the next CEO is brilliant?

Remember- the review suggested independent board members & an experienced CEO.

They followed that instruction. For whatever reason (and we are only speculating at this stage)- they have moved the board members on. Richo chose to leave.

Have HBG said they are not going to take on independent board members now?
 
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