Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Obviously the talent pool is reduced with the inclusion of extra teams, but there could be 24 teams and there would still be 1 maybe 2 genuine top class tto elite players available for each team.
The problem is teams such as ours have a lot of trouble identifying players who are elite and end up paying elite salaries to players who are not in that category.
One player from each club should be salary cap exempt to allow a genuine elite marquee player at each club.
 
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Vicious said:
Obviously the talent pool is reduced with the inclusion of extra teams, but there could be 24 teams and there would still be 1 maybe 2 genuine top class tj elite players available for each team.
The problem is teams such as ours have a lot of trouble identifying players who are elite and end up paying elite salaries to players who are not in that category.
One player from each club should be salary cap exempt to allow a genuine elite marquee player at each club.
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Like it.

Plus clubs (& players) should be incentivised & rewarded for developing their own juniors from at least having two years in U19s up.

A decent salary cap discount for clubs + a bonus (not included in cap) for players.

Clubs would invest more heavily in pathways then I’m sure & would help in some small way to counteract the tax-free lure of PNG.
 
happy_tiger said:
I think the NRL involvement in the future of the ESL is to poach as many top players from that comp as possible , thus trying to fix the very apparent shortfall of 20 sides
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Why would they want that , when it’s clear as day the new money is in international football ?
The nrl wants SL because it expands the nrl brand , gives it a footprint into Europe , and opens up new pathways for revenue .
A strong NRL Europe means next time at the negotiating table the options for diversifying revenue become exponential.
The nrl has maximised Australia . Hobart and Adelaide are the last 2 Aus cities , and no one gives a shit about nrl in Hobart , nor does the nrl care about Hobart , and Adelaide could be argued , but not more than things like a second nz team and a Ipswich corridor Brisbane team. Or even the crazy idea of a Hawaii team .
The players to fill out the nrl ,will come from Europe . But not the SL. As the nrl gains traction players will be tempted to test themselves in the “real” premier rugby competition in the world .
As it stands NRL is popular and quietly known as this , but there’s no marketing in Europe , so therefore there’s no market place share . And therefore no spot in the European zeitgeist . Buy SL, change the name , get a better broadcast deal , more interest from sponsors and investors , promote the hell out of it … and now people in France and Italy and Ireland are talking about it .so when a gun Irish or French fly half comes off contract it will be “what about the nrl … nah not the one in England the real one in Aus” .
South Africa as well . Especially with Perth .
The nrl doesn’t want to cannibalise SL. It wants to eat into rugby . And in some places like France , well especially France , return RL to its rightful place at the top.
Not sure many people know this , but English aristocracy during ww2 petitioned Hittler to outlaw RL , when they took over France , because of the rising power of RL in England , and a strong French league would be disastrous for English rugby .
Unbelievable but 💯 true story.
 
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king_sirro said:
Apparently Brllamy is nothing like what you see in the box. He gets it out there but addresses the players personally a lot different. He can also take a joke and be wound up by the boys. Thats where Madge fails, he cant take a joke and players cant relax and be themselves
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But at least they're always in the F*****g game.
 
Vicious said:
Obviously the talent pool is reduced with the inclusion of extra teams, but there could be 24 teams and there would still be 1 maybe 2 genuine top class tj elite players available for each team.
The problem is teams such as ours have a lot of trouble identifying players who are elite and end up paying elite salaries to players who are not in that category.
One player from each club should be salary cap exempt to allow a genuine elite marquee player at each club.
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Wouldn't that just be the same as upping the cap by 1.5m?
 
Vicious said:
Obviously the talent pool is reduced with the inclusion of extra teams, but there could be 24 teams and there would still be 1 maybe 2 genuine top class tto elite players available for each team.
The problem is teams such as ours have a lot of trouble identifying players who are elite and end up paying elite salaries to players who are not in that category.
One player from each club should be salary cap exempt to allow a genuine elite marquee player at each club.
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We have to work harder to increase the talent pool in our respective junior areas and work harder and smarter to identify and retain the best of it. There is no getting around the fact more resources, more of everything, is required if we are to compete and to make the most efficient use of what we have been given. Buying your way out of trouble will not work. Being better at what we do and having more resources will work.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
We have to work harder to increase the talent pool in our respective junior areas and work harder and smarter to identify and retain the best of it. There is no getting around the fact more resources, more of everything, is required if we are to compete and to make the most efficient use of what we have been given. Buying your way out of trouble will not work. Being better at what we do and having more resources will work.
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HBG are too busy investing in rival codes for that
 
king_sirro said:
Yep.
You cant blame parents of smaller white kids not wanting them getting smashed by bigger islanders at the age of 12 or so.

Im in support of the weight for age concept but you can only play up or down one age group. So if you are deemed too big for under 12's you play 13's. Even if you are still the biggest in the 13's you wont be made to play 2 age groups up. If you are a tiny 15 year old, you play 14's but cant play 13's.
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For a different perspective and without dismissing all of the above, my now 16yo son's union team won the comp/s with a very much predominantly white team that included many anglo girls. Seven of them approved to play in the 13's a few years back as there were no gender restrictions up to 12's.

Dispensations were/are also occasionally given to allow inexperienced and/or small male players to play in lower age groups when deemed appropriate, which benefited our numbers for a time with one boy.

We would have long not been able to meet the minimum numbers to field a team at all basically every weekend without them, and eventually folded as reigning premiers when more boys dropped out, including my son after suffering multiple dislocations due to congenital knee/patella issues.
 
Very few kids who start off in junior reps actually end up making a good living out of the game. So more and more kids are dropping out to peruse a more reliable living like a trade. Chasing a football career is a very hard gig with lots of pitfalls. I guess if the demand for players is increased through more expansion teams, kids may stay in the game a tad longer
 
magpies forever said:
But will he want to? Seems ok with holding a gun to WT head already with re-signing or not. If he is becoming troublesome, Im happy to let him go and replace with Nanai in second row and obtaining prop another way.
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Is there anything to back up the claim he is holding a gun to the WT head?
 
mtd#2 said:
Is there anything to back up the claim he is holding a gun to the WT head?
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The reality he is not signing now despite offer and potential negotiation on that offer, Nov 1 coming up fast and ability to field outside offers. I know his manager is suspended at present but there are ways around that eg someone acting on managers behalf that both manager and player trusts.
 
Wiz said:
I recall Carr was a highly rated assistant before he went over to England. My memory could be off but I seem to recall us making some enquiries about him previously.
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We did a few years back I think. He was the Eels NSW cup coach at the time but got appointed as an assistant not long after.
 
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