‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco

[Snake]

I am all in on Madge.

No other available coach could do more to teach and motivate that squad.

This is my opinion that im going to stand by from now on

Keep Madge

Sack millard and wayne...we need new attack and defence options

This is the only way Maguire will save his job ! He is willing to employ professional and proven experienced assistants !
This Doco is a bad look for this organisation it’s a poor damnation and how the CEO thought this was a good idea but I suppose it’s the reason why this club is a train wreck of failure!

 

[Demps]

I am all in on Madge.

No other available coach could do more to teach and motivate that squad.

This is my opinion that im going to stand by from now on

Keep Madge

Sack millard and wayne...we need new attack and defence options

What do you think of Simon Dwyers position?

Honestly he seems to have a very specific role in the box. He appears to be running the video that the coaches are watching on their tablets, cueing replays etc. At one point towards the end of last nights ep Madge asked to see something again and Dwyer seemed to set that up.

Ayyyy, that makes sense.
I like Dwyer.. if he can do this job well, happy for him to stay on.

The other guys though:
Review can't come quick enough.

 

[Demps]

I am all in on Madge.

No other available coach could do more to teach and motivate that squad.

This is my opinion that im going to stand by from now on

Keep Madge

Sack millard and wayne...we need new attack and defence options




This is the only way Maguire will save his job ! He is willing to employ professional and proven experienced assistants !
This Doco is a bad look for this organisation it’s a poor damnation and how the CEO thought this was a good idea but I suppose it’s the reason why this club is a train wreck of failure!

A post filled with truths. Thank you.
I agree, 100%

 

[TheDaBoss]

I am all in on Madge.

No other available coach could do more to teach and motivate that squad.

This is my opinion that im going to stand by from now on

Keep Madge

Sack millard and wayne...we need new attack and defence options




This is the only way Maguire will save his job ! He is willing to employ professional and proven experienced assistants !
This Doco is a bad look for this organisation it’s a poor damnation and how the CEO thought this was a good idea but I suppose it’s the reason why this club is a train wreck of failure!

I quite like the doco...i think it was a great idea...how ever painful it may be..i do think its something only a few clubs could do....any other club would be boring as hell

I do agree with everything else tho u said

 

[hank37w]

Did anyone else see red when they interviewed Mbye? The laughing and laid back attitude killed me.

Yeah at the start .. “ we stir him up a bit”
Mbye the oxygen thief

Oxygen thief that’s a bit much

Yeah he steals to much oxygen

I don't care how much oxygen he takes, its the salary cap he takes that does my head in lol

He could at least buy his own oxygen..not like he’s short of a quid

He can get his own Gatorade and strapping as well and then bugger off.

 

[hobbo1]

Episode 3
“Who ate all the chips “
@TheDaBoss

 

[full80]

It was a great idea if we were winning... but be cause we are not it is fuel for more outrage.
I'd say there is a level of regret now that it is airing - all it has done has convince fans further that that they were right to blame who ever it is that they see is most at fault.

I'm in the minority but I think the doco. is great for the club.
Aussies love an underdog story. I have no doubt we'll gain supporters.

I find it a bit hard to watch, but also fascinating. The problem as a Tigers supporter is I know the story - I watched all those games, whereas in the Netflix Sunderland one, I had no idea if the team would win or lose games so there was an element of surprise. All I am watching this one for is 'reaction' shots, of how the coach and players react to results I already know happened. And so there's a sameness to that.

I've also been thinking about what it would look like if the players 'talked back' or 'challenged' the coach, in front of the group. I haven't been in a team at an elite level, but I feel the players generally talk amongst themselves, or in private to Madge, or to a trusted insider, like Farah maybe, rather than speak up in front of everyone. I think we all wanted to see enthusiasm or 'buy in', vocalised from the players in the sheds, but if they have issues with what is happening at training or with teammates, or are just incredibly shattered at how bad they just played, then how to do they express that in front of cameras? I reckon it would have made for a better 'drama', if we saw players confusion or disagreement with what was going on, but would not have been a good look for the club, and would not have been sanctioned by WT. So we are inevitably stuck with a kind of one-sided doco.

My background is in scriptwriting so I can't help but look at this as a story, more than a factual document, and I feel my frustration comes from it being a one-sided story. Madge passion cut against players inertia. That could well be the actual story, and the players could be the ones always at fault, but we don't see if players are trying, (in the group maybe) to remedy anything. So the responsibility all falls on Madge pushing for no results, which also makes the club look a bit one-dimensional in how it motivates its team for results. My two cents.

 

[hobbo1]

Have any of you ever heard the Ricky stuart blow up when Dugan was at the Raiders ?
What Madge says is so tame compared to this audio .
I’ll try and dig it up .

 

[diedpretty]

Its simply unaffordable to change coach next year,thanks to the Board who renewed Madges contract b4 a ball was kicked this year(who does that btw…??)

Might be a bit harsh - if i remember rightly there were a lot on here jumping up and down about the board being a bit slow to renew him. At the time there were a couple of clubs that were sounding him out and people were worried that he would walk at the end of the contract. I also thought at the time of the renewal there were a few KPIs that were added that gave the board more flexibility over his tenure.
Has it worked out - probably not at this stage - i think the board will allow him to see out the year and move in to next year with some pretty heavy expectations of how long he has got to turn it around.

 

[diedpretty]

I long for the days when we knew nothing about what went on with the players, coach, who is mates with who etc - I swear the more the fans think they know the more crazy they get.

Yea think they know everything when really they know absolutely nothing

We watched a doco

They are 1 hour long episodes you didn’t even see half of what goes on

add breaks suck,dont they?

Pfft you people watch a documentary and now think you know everything, hey maybe you will become a nrl coach next or maybe a footy player If your young enough, I’m guessing your not cause you seem to be having a mid life crisis is that why your hating on young healthy football players, are you jealous

what train did you come in on?lets not cast desperssions about something you are guessing at 4 a reaction,bye

Well I’m just trying to figure out what has you so mad and insecure that you go out of your way to hate on people you don’t actually know, why not just find a new team since you seem to hate them so much

You dont really get this rugby league fan thing, maybe try the outraged forums

I’m not actually a fan of the west tigers

Wow - really - i never would have guessed.

 

[hank37w]

The biggest concerns I have after watching the docco last night are:

There seems to be absolutely zero input from Tamou in the sheds or on the field, I mean not a single word constructive or otherwise. Some leaders lead by pumping up their team when the team is down, some are quiet vocally and lead by example, sadly he appears to do neither. Not once is he heard during the halftime huddle firing up his teammates, not once is he heard in the team huddle post opposition points being scored. The only players heard at all are Luc and AD.

The assistant coaches seem like absolute nuffs with the greatest respect. Not a single word nor emotion from them in either episode. What is it they actually do apart from holding a note pad/clipboard and put a few squiggles on the page. Not once does anyone in the coaches box offer Madge any valuable insight or idea. Clearly there's a glaring issue right there.

Far too many players in the team are more interested in their Insta persona then actually ripping and tearing for this team. I've said it before and will say it again, you have to earn the right to showboat around like a baller and tbf you don't see the great players from the most successful clubs doing it anyway.

I honestly think Madge is the man to lead the team into the future, his passion cannot be questioned. He will bleed for this team, he just needs the right support around him to do so.

Poor Dwyer...

Just clicking away on the mouse.
Doesn't seem to actually say or do anything.

The other guys are just hanging out, appear to be doing nothing.

Badger gets excited in there but looks like he rides a bike to the coffee shop. Not sure what the adds.

Hopefully Fonzi puts a broom through the place and brings in some heavy hitters.

Yeah, get rid of the Snoop Dog and bring in the 75 year old guy in the bunny suit.

 

[hobbo1]

I am all in on Madge.

No other available coach could do more to teach and motivate that squad.

This is my opinion that im going to stand by from now on

Keep Madge

Sack millard and wayne...we need new attack and defence options




This is the only way Maguire will save his job ! He is willing to employ professional and proven experienced assistants !
This Doco is a bad look for this organisation it’s a poor damnation and how the CEO thought this was a good idea but I suppose it’s the reason why this club is a train wreck of failure!

A post filled with truths. Thank you.
I agree, 100%

? a snake special

 

[Canberratiger]

I understand that this is all from an edited documentary but:
The playing group sits there like losing is a foregone conclusion and they are just waiting to get through the game, get yelled at, and get out of there. Just meek and soft. Very few seem to give a damn.
Madge is trying to get them up for a game but 1 bloke trying to fire up an entire team is going to be very hard. They desperately need a few hard players to buy in, lead from within the team, and for the staff to act like they care.
When people ask what is a Wests Tiger player- it is Luke Brooks. Very talented but very meek with no self-belief. I am hoping that Madge can be the hard coach and Sheens can be Uncle Tim when they need a cuddle.

 

[hobbo1]

No more chips 🍟

 

[Demps]

No more chips 🍟

Haha, they only get Grill'd after a win, right?
I'd be wanting to win every game.

Burgers with the boys!

 

[Sco77y]

The Manly segment where it was a low lights package of errors and Manly killing it with the music... so embarrassing.

Followed up with a light hearted segment about Luciano cracking jokes and how everyone thinks he's a prankster...

I'd love to know who thought this was a good idea to put into the doco?

Like here's a woeful attempt at a game to upset u but don't worry here's funny guy Luciano dancing and laughing...

really sums the team up.
MCK having the time of his life with the opposition after a loss.

They don't have their jobs serious.
You can see it whenever u see Mbye play.
Or Talau... how he even gets picked is beyond me.

They don't listen to Madge.
Guy pours his heart out and they just go out their in first gear, low efforts, stinking it up.

This doco is actually really embarrassing and upsetting and I hope I'm not the only one.


Not to mention that ending.
What does that signify?
It was like a tribute to a lost one?
A fade out sequence with the chair.

I'm seriously bewildered with this hot pile of garbage.

The Manly game was bizarre.. I'm waiting for some sort of resolution, or for the part where that performance is addressed but no, they just cut straight to Luciano laughing and having a good old time (which was in quite poor taste considering his recent form).

100% they don't listen to Madge. And what's worse is he's saying everything most of us have been saying - reserve graders ready to take their place, that they're enjoying all the perks (massages etc.) but aren't giving anything back on the field. Basically everything wrong with their attitude Madge seems to be directly calling them out on, but they're just obviously not listening.

I think the chair at the end was just poor editing that didn't really clearly convey what it was intending to. And I don't like the way these episodes end so abruptly - takes me a few seconds to realise they're actually finished.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

No more chips ?

Haha, they only get Grill'd after a win, right?
I'd be wanting to win every game.

Burgers with the boys!

Like juniors again 😀

 

[Pascoes_barber]

My only problem with Madge is his failure to follow through - if he's going to threaten to bring reserve graders in he needs to actually **do** so at some point.

 

[hobbo1]

No more chips ?

Haha, they only get Grill'd after a win, right?
I'd be wanting to win every game.

Burgers with the boys!

I wonder how many burgers and chips get binned just prior to full time ?

 

[Honkylips]

Have any of you ever heard the Ricky stuart blow up when Dugan was at the Raiders ?
What Madge says is so tame compared to this audio .
I’ll try and dig it up .

Hey Hobbo, if its the one im thinking of it isnt Stuart. It's audio of an Aussie Rules coach on the Gold Coast apparently. But you are correct, it makes Madge's blowup nothing compared to it.