‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco

[TigerWest]

One example: in my memory people didn’t boo at the end of the Cowboy’s game. It came at halftime. If they did I didn’t hear them and I was in the stand. They must have mixed in half-time boos, at the end, to really make the moment when Brooks is emotional, ‘land’ hard. And it worked. He looked crushed and (fittingly) without words.

I agree, I don't remember FT boos, only HT.

I wasn’t booing, as I had thrown my glasses at the TV and couldn’t see the end of the game.?

 

[cochise]

So the responsibility all falls on Madge pushing for no results, which also makes the club look a bit one-dimensional in how it motivates its team for results.

I think you are right that it's a fairly one-dimensional (so far) take on the Tigers story.

So for example: I refuse to believe that the assistant coaches don't say anything to Madge during matches, or during half-time. If you paste together all the shots of Madge blowing up in the box, it would be lucky to be a handful of minutes total against the backdrop of several matches, i.e. only a fraction of total match time. And that is therefore easily explained - they edit in footage of Madge making a comment or blowing up, then cut away. Some people interpret this as the assistants being silent.

Episode 1 you hear Madge calling down to Snoopy constantly, but nothing of Snoopy. Some folks say "what's the point of this Snoopy guy?" This week shows you Snoopy running around and relaying messages.


I'll keep watching cos I love the club, but they have created a narrative of a passionate man fighting against difficult odds: passive players, silent assistants, institutional issues, and bad luck. Will our hero (Madge) flame out, or will things turn around? It's not to say the access isn't cool that they have, but they have shaped it.

One example: in my memory people didn't boo at the end of the Cowboy's game. It came at halftime. If they did I didn't hear them and I was in the stand. They must have mixed in half-time boos, at the end, to really make the moment when Brooks is emotional, 'land' hard. And it worked. He looked crushed and (fittingly) without words.

We will only learn about assistant's help if the producers choose to interview them and feature them.

I'm a little disappointed they used the Brooks footage to be honest, he was that upset because he was being abused by people on the sideline while being interviewed by Jake Duke. The stuff being said to him was disgusting and he was very close to going over the fence.

 

[hobbo1]

All these pea hearts need to do is totally rip in and have a real dig ..
I wouldn’t care if they never won a game again ..

 

[clontarfkid]

Its simply unaffordable to change coach next year,thanks to the Board who renewed Madges contract b4 a ball was kicked this year(who does that btw…??)

Might be a bit harsh - if i remember rightly there were a lot on here jumping up and down about the board being a bit slow to renew him. At the time there were a couple of clubs that were sounding him out and people were worried that he would walk at the end of the contract. I also thought at the time of the renewal there were a few KPIs that were added that gave the board more flexibility over his tenure.
Has it worked out - probably not at this stage - i think the board will allow him to see out the year and move in to next year with some pretty heavy expectations of how long he has got to turn it around.

I honestly dont recall any threat of him being lured elsewhere tbh...hed taken us from 9th to 11th,which in itself isnt overly attractive,plus there are way more coaches availble than chairs for them to sit on
Frankly I was gobsmacked we signed him up b4 a ball was kicked...but whats done is done
He needs a season with Sheens(whose style cld be very complimentary btw)...
but what I saw on Tigertown concerns me somewhat for the medium/long term

 

[OzLuke]

All these pea hearts need to do is totally rip in and have a real dig ..
I wouldn’t care if they never won a game again ..

I think that is the key. It appears they aren't trying at all during large stages.
If the team puts in and still comes up short people cop it.

Game I'm thinking of was we lost to the storm by 1 at LO (where moses missed a thousand field goals) our team tried their guts out all game and just fell short. People cop that.
Concede 18 points in 10 minutes against a fairly average titans at CO and it looks a whole lot different.

 

[balmain boy]

So the responsibility all falls on Madge pushing for no results, which also makes the club look a bit one-dimensional in how it motivates its team for results.

I think you are right that it's a fairly one-dimensional (so far) take on the Tigers story.

So for example: I refuse to believe that the assistant coaches don't say anything to Madge during matches, or during half-time. If you paste together all the shots of Madge blowing up in the box, it would be lucky to be a handful of minutes total against the backdrop of several matches, i.e. only a fraction of total match time. And that is therefore easily explained - they edit in footage of Madge making a comment or blowing up, then cut away. Some people interpret this as the assistants being silent.

Episode 1 you hear Madge calling down to Snoopy constantly, but nothing of Snoopy. Some folks say "what's the point of this Snoopy guy?" This week shows you Snoopy running around and relaying messages.


I'll keep watching cos I love the club, but they have created a narrative of a passionate man fighting against difficult odds: passive players, silent assistants, institutional issues, and bad luck. Will our hero (Madge) flame out, or will things turn around? It's not to say the access isn't cool that they have, but they have shaped it.

One example: in my memory people didn't boo at the end of the Cowboy's game. It came at halftime. If they did I didn't hear them and I was in the stand. They must have mixed in half-time boos, at the end, to really make the moment when Brooks is emotional, 'land' hard. And it worked. He looked crushed and (fittingly) without words.

We will only learn about assistant's help if the producers choose to interview them and feature them.

It's true, they're making a documentary for entertainment purposes. Madge is thier star man and so far they're painting him very well. I wonder if the last two episodes will be so kind. I think not.

But with selective editing we'll never get the full picture. Will we get unrestricted access to a tactical session where we analyse the opponents and work on our plays in attack and defense to beat our rivals? Unlikely.

All we can gather from the doco so far is that Madge is good at giving motivational speeches, the players lack the ability to fire up and play with passion and heart, and that Madge swears a lot. (interesting they chose eo edit out swear words in one scene but not the Tommy game...)

 

[innsaneink]

Yeah we're only getting a fraction of the story... That's very evident.

Also interesting reading all the comments here before I've viewed both episodes....

Thought ep. 2 much like the first

 

[Harvey]

Tamou was the biggest mistake made by Tigers. Average player at best, not a leader ( at Penrith he was surrounded by 4 co captains) as he is a mute. Made captain without having played for the Tigers. Plays average of 20 mins per game.Picking up his super pension.
Captainacy is so important, especially with a young roster in a team, as they are the on field voice of the coach and tactics.
Madge , I assume made decision to appoint Tamou captain and has to live with that decision and resulting failures of on field results.
I would have had LL captain this season. He is vocal, plays 80 minutes and always leads by example. AD no doubt is a future captain of the Tigers.

Mbye followed by Tamou shows some very poor judgment

 

[Demps]

All these pea hearts need to do is totally rip in and have a real dig ..
I wouldn’t care if they never won a game again ..

Can't be mad at some one for trying...

 

[tigerbalm]

One example: in my memory people didn’t boo at the end of the Cowboy’s game. It came at halftime. If they did I didn’t hear them and I was in the stand. They must have mixed in half-time boos, at the end, to really make the moment when Brooks is emotional, ‘land’ hard. And it worked. He looked crushed and (fittingly) without words.

I agree, I don't remember FT boos, only HT.

I was saying Boo-urns

 

[Demps]


Plot twist.

 

[rihannafan1]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

He's right...

This is the guy that's too busy playing on his phone to watch the game.

Snoop dogg, badger and the other guys...
They are all out of their depth.

Hope Sheensy doesn't hold back in the review.
The sooner Madge gets some decent assistants, the better.

Comparing him to a drunken wreck seems extreme.

Haha, maybe.
But looks aside, I'd be questioning how much he actually contributes to ANYTHING.

Episode 1 - Playing on his phone
Episode 2 - Sitting around, laughing.

Not seeing the benefit.

I know he is involved with indigenous and community stuff but, how good is he at his job?

I would assume the club has KPIs that will measure how good he is performing and we'll find out at the end of the year.

 

[rihannafan1]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

He's right...

This is the guy that's too busy playing on his phone to watch the game.

Snoop dogg, badger and the other guys...
They are all out of their depth.

Hope Sheensy doesn't hold back in the review.
The sooner Madge gets some decent assistants, the better.

Comparing him to a drunken wreck seems extreme.

Haha, maybe.
But looks aside, I'd be questioning how much he actually contributes to ANYTHING.

Episode 1 - Playing on his phone
Episode 2 - Sitting around, laughing.

Not seeing the benefit.

I know he is involved with indigenous and community stuff but, how good is he at his job?

>

I have no idea and I definitely won't know from five second clips taken from a Fox show. Given our record I'd say no one is performing well at their job.

 

[TigerWest]


Plot twist.

Looks like the ballboy in the background is keeping an eye on things?

 

[dazza65]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

Who is this? Looks like MIck Molloy….

 

[Demps]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

Who is this? Looks like MIck Molloy….

Ron Griffiths — Coaching Assistant - Indigenous and Community Programs

 

[Geo]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

Who is this? Looks like MIck Molloy….

Ron Griffiths — Coaching Assistant - Indigenous and Community Programs

I don't believe Griffiths is a Assistant Coach in a playing sense..

 

[Demps]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

Who is this? Looks like MIck Molloy….

Ron Griffiths — Coaching Assistant - Indigenous and Community Programs

I don't believe Griffiths is a Assistant Coach in a playing sense..

Straight off the club website.

 

[Geo]


This fella looks like the type of guy you see at a local football game that sits on the sideline sipping his beer "contributing" towards the club he's supporting, but in reality..... he's a drunken wreck and has no idea.

Sack this guy - cant even give Madge a slight slap on the back after a win...

Are you okay?

Who is this? Looks like MIck Molloy….

Ron Griffiths — Coaching Assistant - Indigenous and Community Programs

I don't believe Griffiths is a Assistant Coach in a playing sense..

Straight off the club website.

What's he do..

Works with Indigenous and community ...?

Michael Maguire — NRL Head Coach

Shane Millard — NRL Assistant Coach

Wayne Collins — NRL Assistant Coach

Ron Griffiths — Coaching Assistant - Indigenous and Community Programs ..

Doesn't mention NRL like the others...

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Tamou was the biggest mistake made by Tigers. Average player at best, not a leader ( at Penrith he was surrounded by 4 co captains) as he is a mute. Made captain without having played for the Tigers. Plays average of 20 mins per game.Picking up his super pension.
Captainacy is so important, especially with a young roster in a team, as they are the on field voice of the coach and tactics.
Madge , I assume made decision to appoint Tamou captain and has to live with that decision and resulting failures of on field results.
I would have had LL captain this season. He is vocal, plays 80 minutes and always leads by example. AD no doubt is a future captain of the Tigers.

Even when Tamou hasn't played they have had Brooks as captain and he is clearly not captain material in any way, shape or form. How Doueihi wasn't made captain instead of Brooks is absolutely astounding TBH. Douiehi better have the C beside his name next season or we are going nowhere as far as inspirational on-field leadership is concerned.