2019 Coaching saga -Thread

[weststigers]

Well done to Tigers management for managing an extremely difficult situation.

Cleary did the dirty on us, but we made sure our 2019 season wasn’t ruined by moving fast on Bennett and Maguire.

In the end, Madge got the job and he is a solid performer with good pedigree. Fingers crossed he can pick up where we left off and continue the rebuild.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what he can bring to the Tigers.

On the other hand, reports were that Adam Reynolds was stifled under Madge’s very strict game plans. Time will tell, but could spell the end of the Luke Brooks resurrection.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

If we don't get compo then we should have negotiated harder. It's as much about sending a message that we can't just be raided at the leisure of cashed up clubs that take a liking to our coach as it is about the finances. We need to push for both cash and a public acknowledgment that compensation was paid (without the amount needing to be made public).

We only agreed to let him go once we had a better option locked up. I think this sends a good message that it was still done on our terms. We never got shafted by Penrith here we got shafted by Ivan the terrible. When he couldn’t get a release to go to the panthers immediately he signed with them for 2021\. I think Pascoe and Go have handled it as good as can be with the cards Cleary dealt them.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Ivan met with Penrith, they asked if he was interested in coaching and he said yes. Cleary went to the tigers and asked for a release, they said no. Ivan went back to panthers and they said let’s sign you for 2021 and force tigers hand. Ivan went to Pascoe and told him. Pascoe met with Bennett realised he wasn’t genuine and then nutted a deal with Madge but told him to hold tight until they sort out Ivan the terrible. They put a price of $500k on his head and Gus agreed. Paperwork all signed in the next few days and happy days. We’ve been trying to tell you this for the last few weeks.

That not the story you were pedaling before
Keep changing and you might a story that fits , what reference do you have for the new story,
Funny that you didn’t mention this new, story when we were talking about the meeting between Ivan and Go and Pascoe,
I’ve never heard the long and strangely unheard version that you’re pedalling now, you haven’t been celebrating too much , have you :roll

What story was i peddaling before this one? Do enlighten us oh wise one lol.

And I have plenty of sauces for my above story.

Aaarrrhh sources, I don’t have sauces , I find that there’s been so many sources bandied around,
Quotes are the only thing that I take notice of around here any more. (Especially with some people)
Who said what in a direct quote, such as the statement made by Go And our esteemed leader regarding Ivan not asking for a release.

And the ones from Gold Bar Benny, saying that He’ll‘ be back at the Broncos in 2019
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One thing I have to give you is that your consistent. Despite the flood of media coming through , Pascoe emails ..etc…you’ve stuck solid with your stance. Unfortunately though I think my version of the events unfolding turned out to be pretty accurate lol. There always is a next time.

 

[weststigers]

If we don't get compo then we should have negotiated harder. It's as much about sending a message that we can't just be raided at the leisure of cashed up clubs that take a liking to our coach as it is about the finances. We need to push for both cash and a public acknowledgment that compensation was paid (without the amount needing to be made public).

It’s a nice thought, but in a free market, people are free to make offers to whom they please.

Penrith knew if they waited long enough, we would let him go early.

Let’s move on. It’s a unique situation where a father wants to coach his son in the NRL and it’s clear that Nathan wanted to stay at the Panthers.

Sucks for us, but bad things happen in life and it’s more about how you deal with them. I think we did a good job in the circumstances.

 

[Geo]

Wait a second I don't think anyone disagrees Ivan is the one who caused all this has no integrity left and will go down as the most despised Coach in our history…

Yet part of the strategy to keep him was an extension offered not yet deserved and that's good Management.. extraordinary lenghts indeed..

Yes I agree with this. Offering him an extension to test his motives.
Why couldn’t we just sit him down and talk to him straight, ‘look I know you want to go.
Is it imperative it’s right now or do you want to see out what you’ve started.
I’m happy to meet in the middle and let’s walk away with our reputation and dignity in check and call 2019 the final hurrah?’

You mean like professionals…where is the fun in that...agreed btw.

but lets try reverse pshyc..1st..

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

Well done to Tigers management for managing an extremely difficult situation.

Cleary did the dirty on us, but we made sure our 2019 season wasn’t ruined by moving fast on Bennett and Maguire.

In the end, Madge got the job and he is a solid performer with good pedigree. Fingers crossed he can pick up where we left off and continue the rebuild.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what he can bring to the Tigers.

On the other hand, reports were that Adam Reynolds was stifled under Madge’s very strict game plans. Time will tell, but could spell the end of the Luke Brooks resurrection.

Stifled all he does is kick.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

https://twitter.com/Starlo33/status/1055400283570765825?s=20

Will he be running them off their feet , like he did with Souths

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Not enough lols.

I don't know if you ever understood in this thread that the point some people were making was not that there wasn't coaching changes on the horizon, rather that there isn't much point getting up in arms about it until something official was stated.

That's technically still true, although multiple media sources giving the same news 99% of the time means it's legitimate. That occurred for the first time just this afternoon.

I didn’t think we needed people’s permisison to “get up in arms” over the obvious situation that was unfolding. Thank you though for clarifying that for me. So today the speculation is legitimate , but previously when almost every organisation was running with Cleary wants out, madge or Bennett coming here, Seibold to souths…etc.. it was a problem for some. Makes alot of sense, thanks again for explaining when it’s okay to believe the speculation and when it isn’t.

I don't know if "not getting it" is your profession, you are that good at it.

I didn't say permission, you don't need my permission to do anything, I said it's pointless. I believe it's pointless getting too excited about all the different theories, and let's be honest there's been one thousand different claims about this topic in the last 3 months. When there's so much misinformation, you are better off waiting for something official.

However when 99% of the media outlets align and EVERY journo is saying Tigers-Madge-Penrith-Cleary deal is almost done Thurs-Fri-Sat, then you can start to consider that it is likely to be true. Not official, but probable.

Same thing happened with Nathan Cleary's signature, there was all this crap, then NRL.com, SMH, Telecrap all started running the same story that a deal had been done - at that time you can assume the consensus means it has indeed been done.

No buddy I do get it, I get it very well. You on the other hand not so much I think. 99% of the media reported Ivan Cleary meeting with Penrith. 99% of the media reported Cleary asking for a release. 99% of the media reported Cleary signing with Penrith from 2021\. 99% of the media reported we were in talks with Madge/Bennett. It’s been a consistent story the media has been running with since day one. A few on here ran with it by using common sense. You now want to jump on board so good for you. But this has been the story since day dot, not sure what different theories you were talking about , but if it makes you feel better then fantastic.

Not sure where you have been during all of this, but if you don’t believe that there was a continuos barrage of different theories by all the so-called journalists , commentators, and the public.
You must have been off the Planet,
Brent Read has ran so many guesses that he must have had trouble in remembering just what what his official opinion actually was..

The silliest Theory, was from the crowd that were convinced that Gold Bar Benny was on his way to Concord( or wherever our Home is this week)
That was never going to happen, but that story was being pushed all over the place

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If we don't get compo then we should have negotiated harder. It's as much about sending a message that we can't just be raided at the leisure of cashed up clubs that take a liking to our coach as it is about the finances. We need to push for both cash and a public acknowledgment that compensation was paid (without the amount needing to be made public).

We only agreed to let him go once we had a better option locked up. I think this sends a good message that it was still done on our terms. We never got shafted by Penrith here we got shafted by Ivan the terrible. When he couldn’t get a release to go to the panthers immediately he signed with them for 2021\. I think Pascoe and Go have handled it as good as can be with the cards Cleary dealt them.

Penrith, and Gus got exactly what they wanted, we were perfectly outplayed by them, and how you could say that we never got shafted by them is beyond belief,

They just lobbed a grenade our way , and sat back until we did what was inevitable for us.
Some people don’t like Gus, but he puts his club first, and makes things happen in the best way for the club,
I wish that we had someone more like that ,rather than the soppy lot that we have, who just lurch from one situation to another

 

[Needaname]

Wait a second I don't think anyone disagrees Ivan is the one who caused all this has no integrity left and will go down as the most despised Coach in our history…

Yet part of the strategy to keep him was an extension offered not yet deserved and that's good Management.. extraordinary lenghts indeed..

Yes I agree with this. Offering him an extension to test his motives.
Why couldn’t we just sit him down and talk to him straight, ‘look I know you want to go.
Is it imperative it’s right now or do you want to see out what you’ve started.
I’m happy to meet in the middle and let’s walk away with our reputation and dignity in check and call 2019 the final hurrah?’

You mean like professionals…where is the fun in that...agreed btw.

but lets try reverse pshyc..1st..

Yeah, good one.

This from an extract regarding seibold to broncos and quotes from Shane Richardson below.
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a firm administrator like that.

The Rabbitohs tabled Seibold a contract extension back in June, but with the rookie coach interviewing for the Broncos role, and therefore stalling on the offer, it was pulled.

“I always genuinely though that he’d stick with us, it didn’t overly concern me,” Richardson said.

“But when it became clearer and clearer that he wouldn’t be with us, we had to (move on).

“We’re a great club, we don’t want to be second best to anybody.”

 

[HabboTiger]

More well informed sources than myself are certain we have been paid compo

 

[yeti]

If we don't get compo then we should have negotiated harder. It's as much about sending a message that we can't just be raided at the leisure of cashed up clubs that take a liking to our coach as it is about the finances. We need to push for both cash and a public acknowledgment that compensation was paid (without the amount needing to be made public).

We only agreed to let him go once we had a better option locked up. I think this sends a good message that it was still done on our terms. We never got shafted by Penrith here we got shafted by Ivan the terrible. When he couldn’t get a release to go to the panthers immediately he signed with them for 2021\. I think Pascoe and Go have handled it as good as can be with the cards Cleary dealt them.

Penrith, and Gus got exactly what they wanted, we were perfectly outplayed by them, and how you could say that we never got shafted by them is beyond belief,

They just lobbed a grenade our way , and sat back until we did what was inevitable for us.
Some people don’t like Gus, but he puts his club first, and makes things happen in the best way for the club,
I wish that we had someone more like that ,rather than the soppy lot that we have, who just lurch from one situation to another

Well, there are ways of doing business just as there are ways of living your life. If some want to act in a way that is all about 'them' and to hell with everyone else then fine. But I choose not to live like that and I'm proud that our club doesn't either. And at the end of the day, I reckon the Tigers did all right out of all of this.

 

[vlad]

If we don't get compo then we should have negotiated harder. It's as much about sending a message that we can't just be raided at the leisure of cashed up clubs that take a liking to our coach as it is about the finances. We need to push for both cash and a public acknowledgment that compensation was paid (without the amount needing to be made public).

We only agreed to let him go once we had a better option locked up. I think this sends a good message that it was still done on our terms. We never got shafted by Penrith here we got shafted by Ivan the terrible. When he couldn’t get a release to go to the panthers immediately he signed with them for 2021\. I think Pascoe and Go have handled it as good as can be with the cards Cleary dealt them.

Penrith, and Gus got exactly what they wanted, we were perfectly outplayed by them, and how you could say that we never got shafted by them is beyond belief,

They just lobbed a grenade our way , and sat back until we did what was inevitable for us.
Some people don’t like Gus, but he puts his club first, and makes things happen in the best way for the club,
I wish that we had someone more like that ,rather than the soppy lot that we have, who just lurch from one situation to another

Don’t think his handling of Cleary > Griffin > Cleary was the best way for his club . Certainly cost them a lot in payouts

 

[supercoach]

Re the compo…...we will never know, the terms of Cleary’s release will have a very strict and binding confidentiality clause.

I say there has been compo paid, other wise what would delay the release till today or when ever

 

[innsaneink]

Wow…you invest so much in this place, and take so much on board...

Looks to be the same thing to me...anyway, carry on bunching your panties, you really are embarrassing yourself

Oh yeah....and get ypourself a sense of humour. (snickers) its a joke :unamused:

Never thought I'd see you comment about how much time a person spends on here :laughing:

Anyway …... :unamused:

Thought you had a sense of humour

I'm not talking about time on here…. im talking about you dragging something up from four or five years ago... Meh! Take it all on board..hold a grudge,it's your choice

But for god sake just give the new bloke a fair go..

 

[innsaneink]

Re the compo…...we will never know, the terms of Cleary’s release will have a very strict and binding confidentiality clause.

I say there has been compo paid, other wise what would delay the release till today or when ever

Was about to post the same thing.. But that won't stop some saying they know this or otherwise..

I feel this drama has really lowered the standard of this forum too… Quite a defining moment in this places history, it's going down the crapper

 

[Tim Sheens]

Happy enough with the apparent outcome and assume that finalising things at the eleventh hour league season wise was all about obtaining some cash from Penrith. Expect that WT got half a million or so and if not, then the club has been had twice.

Officials at the club probably should have handled a few things a bit better, though plenty on here were wanting the mongrel bring his son and still hoodwinked by him for weeks after the debacle that he created surfaced.

 

[Telltails]

Well done to Tigers management for managing an extremely difficult situation.

Cleary did the dirty on us, but we made sure our 2019 season wasn’t ruined by moving fast on Bennett and Maguire.

In the end, Madge got the job and he is a solid performer with good pedigree. Fingers crossed he can pick up where we left off and continue the rebuild.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what he can bring to the Tigers.

On the other hand, reports were that Adam Reynolds was stifled under Madge’s very strict game plans. Time will tell, but could spell the end of the Luke Brooks resurrection.

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Stifled all he does is kick.

Have to agree Nucky - can see very little difference in Adam Reynolds game.

 

[Telltails]

If we don't get compo then we should have negotiated harder. It's as much about sending a message that we can't just be raided at the leisure of cashed up clubs that take a liking to our coach as it is about the finances. We need to push for both cash and a public acknowledgment that compensation was paid (without the amount needing to be made public).

We only agreed to let him go once we had a better option locked up. I think this sends a good message that it was still done on our terms. We never got shafted by Penrith here we got shafted by Ivan the terrible. When he couldn’t get a release to go to the panthers immediately he signed with them for 2021\. I think Pascoe and Go have handled it as good as can be with the cards Cleary dealt them.

Penrith, and Gus got exactly what they wanted, we were perfectly outplayed by them, and how you could say that we never got shafted by them is beyond belief,

They just lobbed a grenade our way , and sat back until we did what was inevitable for us.
Some people don’t like Gus, but he puts his club first, and makes things happen in the best way for the club,
I wish that we had someone more like that ,rather than the soppy lot that we have, who just lurch from one situation to another

Don’t think his handling of Cleary Griffin Cleary was the best way for his club . Certainly cost them a lot in payouts

The Panthers got Nathan because he wanted to stay there, but you will never convince me that Gus really ever wanted Ivan.
The Panthers were forced to act to secure Nathan and in doing so - desperately went after our coach to get the deal done.
Time will tell if it was a good move for them -its cost them plenty - but lets face it Ivan will be exactly where he wants to be, so cant see how we are not better off.

 

[jadtiger]

Re the compo…...we will never know, the terms of Cleary’s release will have a very strict and binding confidentiality clause.

I say there has been compo paid, other wise what would delay the release till today or when ever

Was about to post the same thing.. But that won't stop some saying they know this or otherwise..

I feel this drama has really lowered the standard of this forum too… Quite a defining moment in this places history, it's going down the crapper

Agreed some of the vitriol that has been directed at people over the last 2 months has been disgraceful.Reminds me of the half wits in politics