2023 Forwards

Our Pack -Steph -yes big tackle buster but always injured .our best if fit
-Api - great hope coming for more than the money
- vacant - big mobile front rower needed .none on the books
-Papalii - great hope he's coming
- Blore - complete unknown after long injury lay off
-Joffa - hard worker high tackle count ,doesn't bend line or offload
- Twal - ditto
- NuBrown - sort of ok bench utility
- Rua - just my gut feel he's got something
Sorry IMO - Musgrove ,Pole , Freebairn , Dias , Matamua not Ist grade standard ,undersized but maybe Pole and Matamua eventually
So at minimum we need a top class front rower and edge 2nd rower
Joffa was top 20 in the comp for offloads.
 
I don’t care what his stats say - he’s got nothing on James fisher Harris….
I’d also bet JFH ain’t on a mill a year!!

Just FYI - million dollar players don’t let a top 4 side miss the 8 a month out from finals…,

JFH would be on around 800k I believe, if you put Hass in that Penrith system he’d be better than JFH but it’s all just opinions I guess

We need someone who can bend the line and I genuinely don’t think I’ve ever seen a Hass run not bend the line

With the salary cap going up and our need for some aggression in our pack, I think Hass is exactly what we need….

Could help all our young forwards stay beyond current deals - Papalili and Stef included
 
8. Joffa
9. API
10. Lodge (not sure what his contract situation is but we need aggression)
11. Blore
12. IP
13. Hastings

14. Twal
15. Pole
16. Stef
17. Brown/Simpkins

Go after Liam Martin for 2024 and a competent HB and Fullback and we may get somewhere
 
8. Joffa
9. API
10. Lodge (not sure what his contract situation is but we need aggression)
11. Blore
12. IP
13. Hastings

14. Twal
15. Pole
16. Stef
17. Brown/Simpkins

Go after Liam Martin for 2024 and a competent HB and Fullback and we may get somewhere
We're extremely reliant on injured players making a full and quick rehabilitation from quite major injuries. The depth for next year is going to be tested from the outset.
Would only take Lodge on match payments ( $20,000 per game, gives him $500,00 if he plays a full season, gives us a get out if his form or behaviour goes bad ). I don't mind giving someone a chance but I can also understand those that don't want him at the club.
 
8. Stefano Utoikmamu
9. Api Korisau
10. Payne Hass
11. Isiah Papalili
12. Shawn Blore
13. Jackson Hastings

14. Fa'amanu Brown
15. Fonua Pole
16. Joe Ofahengaue
17. Alex Twal

One signing and instantly our pack looks competitive.... get it done Sheens

Then look at bringing in Liam Martin the following season
Have heard Brown hasnt been offered much of a deal and has better interest elsewhere
 
JFH would be on around 800k I believe, if you put Hass in that Penrith system he’d be better than JFH but it’s all just opinions I guess

We need someone who can bend the line and I genuinely don’t think I’ve ever seen a Hass run not bend the line

With the salary cap going up and our need for some aggression in our pack, I think Hass is exactly what we need….

Could help all our young forwards stay beyond current deals - Papalili and Stef included
Just because the salary cap goes up - doesn’t mean there much more money.
(Especially to buy a prop that wants 1 mill)
It just doesn’t work like that.

Minimum wages will also go up I’d expect,
current salary’s tied to the cap also go up.
There’d be players signed who’s wages increase as a standard with a presumed cap increase.

Haas can play - but he’s not the player we need… especially now.
He’s barely been out of the headlines for the last 3-4 years…
Not that we’re much of a chance anyhow you’d think
 
If Api & iSook can motivate our young lads, we should be decent...

Would really like some hard nosed experience heads added to assist with that though...

Imo, it's looking like....

8 Stefano Utoikamanu
9 Api Korosu
10 Joe Offa
11 Papaliii
12 Blore
13 Jacko

14 Twal
15 Pole
16 Seyfarth
17 Nu Brown or some one

With hopefully Musgrove leaving...
And guys like Tumeth, Kautoga, Rua, etc. pushing for spots.

Still feels incomplete imo.
 
If Api & iSook can motivate our young lads, we should be decent...

Would really like some hard nosed experience heads added to assist with that though...

Imo, it's looking like....

8 Stefano Utoikamanu
9 Api Korosu
10 Joe Offa
11 Papaliii
12 Blore
13 Jacko

14 Twal
15 Pole
16 Seyfarth
17 Nu Brown or some one

With hopefully Musgrove leaving...
And guys like Tumeth, Kautoga, Rua, etc. pushing for spots.

Still feels incomplete imo.
agreed. none of those forwards strike fear in the opposition. need a leniu/leota/jwh type enforcer in the front row to take it to the opposition if we're getting pummeled. the cats we have will just roll over and present.
 
I think some of our plodders will go up a gear with Api and Paps if we jag a couple of wins early. Seeing you can compete makes you want to be better. Losing only drives you into the ground and is demotivating. I can see Stef and Twal improving a lot if we can get a reasonable start.

Injuries and momentum is the key.
If they can jag a few wins early in the season who knows what can happen.
But to be competitive for a finals spot we need to find another 10 wins during the season.
Just don't see that in the squad we have. Don't think we will come last though.
 
If Api & iSook can motivate our young lads, we should be decent...

Would really like some hard nosed experience heads added to assist with that though...

Imo, it's looking like....

8 Stefano Utoikamanu
9 Api Korosu
10 Joe Offa
11 Papaliii
12 Blore
13 Jacko

14 Twal
15 Pole
16 Seyfarth
17 Nu Brown or some one

With hopefully Musgrove leaving...
And guys like Tumeth, Kautoga, Rua, etc. pushing for spots.

Still feels incomplete imo.

If Seyfarth is in our top 17 then we are shot.
He isn't a bench player nor is he a NRL starter.
 
If Api & iSook can motivate our young lads, we should be decent...

Would really like some hard nosed experience heads added to assist with that though...

Imo, it's looking like....

8 Stefano Utoikamanu
9 Api Korosu
10 Joe Offa
11 Papaliii
12 Blore
13 Jacko

14 Twal
15 Pole
16 Seyfarth
17 Nu Brown or some one

With hopefully Musgrove leaving...
And guys like Tumeth, Kautoga, Rua, etc. pushing for spots.

Still feels incomplete imo.
Api will make a huge difference, but agree he needs better cattle around him. Pole charging into a gap Api creates should be a winner.

I also think you will get Talau on the bench instead of Seyfarth to cover the backs.

its not a very scary prop rotation
 
If Seyfarth is in our top 17 then we are shot.
He isn't a bench player nor is he a NRL starter.
We're short aye.
Not a balanced pack and depth is a bunch of kids.

Hopefully some work being done behind the scenes to address this.
 
Musgrove is terrible
Stef has heaps of potential but had a very poor season
Twal is a hard worker but a plodder
Pole is a kid
Joe O is a good honest player but only stands out because the rest are so very poor.
We need middles more than anything imo. How many of our middles would be starting in teams in the top 8.
 
Musgrove is terrible
Stef has heaps of potential but had a very poor season
Twal is a hard worker but a plodder
Pole is a kid
Joe O is a good honest player but only stands out because the rest are so very poor.
We need middles more than anything imo. How many of our middles would be starting in teams in the top 8.
Big job to expect Api & Papz to carry and mentor them all on their own.

I'd take Sua from the Dragons and some decent prop, a Christian Welch type.. not sure who that'd be though.
 
This is what I reckon. If they play to their potential and we get basically no injuries they'll go okay. They won't be great but it might work.

Hastings at 13 means we lack go forward. Is it worth it ?

Injuries will kill us.

I still reckon the spine is more of a mess.
Hastings at 13 will work so would Brooks and Laurie either side of ruck
Put Douhie into the centres
 
If Api & iSook can motivate our young lads, we should be decent...

Would really like some hard nosed experience heads added to assist with that though...

Imo, it's looking like....

8 Stefano Utoikamanu
9 Api Korosu
10 Joe Offa
11 Papaliii
12 Blore
13 Jacko

14 Twal
15 Pole
16 Seyfarth
17 Nu Brown or some one

With hopefully Musgrove leaving...
And guys like Tumeth, Kautoga, Rua, etc. pushing for spots.

Still feels incomplete imo.
Kautoga could be our surprise element .Has anybody seen him play apart from the 3 minutes that idiot gave him
 

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