A crucial period for Madge...

[JC99]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

 

[hobbo1]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

 

[JC99]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

We better get there. A few more years of missing the 8 and we’ll be at risk of being folded for sucking ?

 

[cochise]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

I'm always relaxed lol, just not one to write of a season 12 months in advance, we actually have some people writing off the next 2 seasons right now. I am being realistic, a team that can't be in the top 50% teams even once in a decade has no right calling itself a professional organisation.

 

[cochise]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

 

[earl]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

we were 1 game from top 8 last year.

Yep. I think we punched above our weight though. That isn't going to happen regularly. I don't think our squad is that far off. All we need is another 5 good quality or better first graders. I think 1 of those has to be a quality half.

I can't see significant improvement for a couple of years.

 

[JC99]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

We were so young and optimistic ? we didn’t know the prices either

 

[cochise]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

We were so young and optimistic ? we didn’t know the prices either

lol, I just think it is disappointing that this club has got to the point where it's supporters are writing off a season more than 6 months before the season commences and when the previous season hasn't even finished. Why would people even bother outlaying the thousand of $ they do if that is the expectation?

 

[hobbo1]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

We better get there. A few more years of missing the 8 and we’ll be at risk of being folded for sucking ?

Top 8 is a joke anyway
Should be top 5 like it used to be

 

[cochise]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

We better get there. A few more years of missing the 8 and we’ll be at risk of being folded for sucking ?

Top 8 is a joke anyway
Should be top 5 like it used to be

Mate, don't say that, we would have people aiming for 2050 for our year to make the top 5 lol

 

[JC99]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

We better get there. A few more years of missing the 8 and we’ll be at risk of being folded for sucking ?

Top 8 is a joke anyway
Should be top 5 like it used to be

We would finish 6th

 

[tigerbalm]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

We were so young and optimistic ? we didn’t know the prices either

lol, I just think it is disappointing that this club has got to the point where it's supporters are writing off a season more than 6 months before the season commences and when the previous season hasn't even finished. Why would people even bother outlaying the thousand of $ they do if that is the expectation?

Quality fan base. thats why 🙂

 

[cktiger]

I’m wondering if some players can’t get themselves up for the games because they know they are either going to be punted or are being shopped around.
Meninga made a comment last week that some guys were just running out in the jersey and were not interested.

 

[hobbo1]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

We were so young and optimistic ? we didn’t know the prices either

lol, I just think it is disappointing that this club has got to the point where it's supporters are writing off a season more than 6 months before the season commences and when the previous season hasn't even finished. Why would people even bother outlaying the thousand of $ they do if that is the expectation?

I don’t outlay anything...
Who would be silly enough to do that ?

 

[Aesopian]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

We better get there. A few more years of missing the 8 and we’ll be at risk of being folded for sucking ?

Top 8 is a joke anyway
Should be top 5 like it used to be

We would finish 6th

We've never finished in 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th. Minute sample size but we've only ever finished inside the top 4 for finals.

At least when we make the finals we do it in style.
None of this finishing 7th & 8th making up the numbers mumbo jumbo irrelevant bow out in the first week nonsense...

So, I guess we've got that going for us :relieved:

 

[old_man_tiger]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

We were so young and optimistic ? we didn’t know the prices either

lol, I just think it is disappointing that this club has got to the point where it's supporters are writing off a season more than 6 months before the season commences and when the previous season hasn't even finished. Why would people even bother outlaying the thousand of $ they do if that is the expectation?

Quality fan base. thats why 🙂

We really are. If we were most other Sydney clubs we would be beyond broke now. The fans are far and away the best thing about the club.

 

[jrtiger]

should we have the old independent off-season review to work out what on earth is going on?

we were told at the beginning of the year by CEO, Coach & Chairman that we had a squad that was capable of winning the grand final. of course we believed this to be ridiculous, but we all thought (especially through July) that we were going to give the top 8 a shake at the very least.

now there's no commitment, desire or pride in the jersey, and some of our better players have fallen away. maybe it's time to review our operations and work out what changes need to be made.

 

[cochise]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

I remember agreeing with you about the fact that I won’t say we’ve turned the corner until we actually make finals, however I was very impressed at how Madge got the squad playing with so much effort and determination and we looked really good.

When people wanted established players I doubt they meant ridiculous overs for guys who haven’t been relevant for years, more like current good players. With our cap the way it is signing young guys is the only way.

Being realistic with our squad and salary cap the way it is there’s still a lot of changes to be made if we want to be consistent performers. Maybe we’ll get it done this off season but I get the feeling we won’t be able to offload all the duds before next year. I was always of the opinion it would take a long while for Madge or any coach to turn us around

A lot of people were very happy with those signings.

We were so young and optimistic ? we didn’t know the prices either

lol, I just think it is disappointing that this club has got to the point where it's supporters are writing off a season more than 6 months before the season commences and when the previous season hasn't even finished. Why would people even bother outlaying the thousand of $ they do if that is the expectation?

I don’t outlay anything...
Who would be silly enough to do that ?

Thousand of dollars every year here lol

 

[851]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

I expect finals next year, anything less is a joke.

That’s pretty unrealistic IMO. Would have to be some amazing recruitment drive to make us into a top 8 team next year.

2022 is the year there’s no excuses for Madge, full salary cap control, squad he wants absolutely no excuses. Next year he’ll still be building us unfortunately but hopefully our squad looks a bit better

Seriously? Any team that can't make the finals for a decade in a competition where 50% of teams make the finals needs to have serious questions ask of it.

I agree, but looking at the big picture it would be pretty hard to take our team into the top 8 next season unless we sign some real quality. Unfortunately we only really started over last year when the new coach came in.

When we lost the players in 2017 that we had been paying on potential this forum was full of comments about us buying established players as the paying for potential failed, 3 years don't the track everyone wants us overpaying for potential because the buying established players has failed.

We also had people about 5 weeks ago sprouting how we had turned the corner, you being one of the main posters and now you are convinced we are 2 years from finals football. I was told I was wrong at the time for stating I will believe we have turned the corner when we make the finals. My expectations have not changed on that, the only indicator I'll accept is finals football, anything less is a failure.

Of course not making the 8 is a failure but you need to be realistic as well ..
Meanwhile nothing beats a good rant ..
We’ll get there...relax man .

We better get there. A few more years of missing the 8 and we’ll be at risk of being folded for sucking ?

Top 8 is a joke anyway
Should be top 5 like it used to be

Then we will never make it, we can't even make the 8, what the hell chance do we have of making the 5, Canterbury won it from 6th spot in 1995