Adam Doueihi #227

[Speed2burn]

Any halfback thats going to get dropped needs at least offered a frank discussion with the coach.....before the team is announced.

Really, if Benji didn't so that, I'd be p*ssed as well

When was he dropped? A positional change isn’t the same as being dropped

 

[Bob]

Again what you're saying is Benji didn't even float the idea with his chief playmaker until two days before the game. He just saw his name not in the team?

And the all of a sudden on Thursday he gets told "By the way AD, you're playing lock this week"

And he wasn't even named at lock.

So basically, Benji dropped AD and didn't even discuss it with him?

Why do you expect a guy who is suspended to be named in the team?

Why can’t Benji after watching a side train all week make a decision to take that same team into a game?

Why does Benji need to speak to any of the players regarding where they play? Should he ask Turuva if he is ok shifting to the centres this weeks training after signing Jnr? Where does this mythical line stop of whom he needs to ask and who he doesn’t? It is based on position, contract status, personality???

 

[mtd#2]

Then whay wasn't he named at lock.

If Benji had a frank discussion with AD about being dropped, things might have been different

Because he was named in the 22 jersey - so he was listed in a position where he wasnt expected to play.

Also, moving to lock isn't being dropped? He is still in the starting side?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Why do you expect a guy who is suspended to be named in the team?

He wasn’t suspended, he was charged. And players who are charged, who fight it, always get named. Fifita did.

 

[Dennisspicer1]

It will blow over quickly and be forgotten. Ships that pass in the night.

Was Galvin forgotten quickly.

 

[Chunk]

When was he dropped? A positional change isn’t the same as being dropped

For a halfback to be named at lock is pretty close

 

[Chunk]

Why does Benji need to speak to any of the players regarding where they play?

He should speak to all the players about this sort of stuff, especially your halfback.

Did AD have any idea that he was going to be dropped, I wonder?

It seems he didn't (Speculation)

 

[Speed2burn]

Ok then, if AD already knew he was playing lock


For a halfback to be named at lock is pretty close

So he was named to play tomorrow?

 

[mtd#2]

Ok then, if AD already knew he was playing lock


For a halfback to be named at lock is pretty close

But is Douhei really a halfback?
What other club does he walk into and play #7?
He is a utility that can play multiple positions.
Yes, he can play #7.
Yes, he played well at the start of the year.
But he hasnt been great there the last few weeks, has he?

In a team who has scored 22 points in 4 rounds, including games against Dragons and Bulldogs - I don't know how anyone can anyone suggest his form warrants automatic selection, especially after a player like andrews who set up 4 tries the previous week.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Interesting listen on Paul Kent’s podcast re a premeditated setup to get a better contract/deal elsewhere
M Moses
L Galvin
AD

So there is more to it rather than the move away from halfback, according to latest article in DT from Diccio (yes spelt that way on purpose). I will copy it in next post.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Wests Tigers call Adam Doueihi, Benji Marshall crisis meeting after dramatic training exit​

The Wests Tigers have called a crisis meeting between Adam Doueihi and coach Benji Marshall within the next 72-hours to thrash out their differences, after the star dramatically ruled himself out of their Raiders clash.

David Riccio

Adam Doueihi will meet with Wests Tigers coach Benji Marshall and CEO Shaun Mielekamp within the next 72-hours to thrash out their differences.

The meeting, expected by Monday afternoon at the latest, aims to bring all parties back onto the same page after Doueihi dramatically left training on Thursday and ruled himself out of the club’s game against the Raiders in Canberra on Saturday.

At this stage, neither the club wants to tear up Doueihi’s contract, nor has the 172-game player informed his management to seek a release from his contract, which runs through until 2029.

Both Marshall and Doueihi respect each other greatly and there is a genuine appetite to smoke the peace pipe and move forward for the benefit of the club.

The reason for Doueihi’s dramatic stance to stand down from playing is believed to be not solely due to Marshall deciding to shift the playmaker to the unfamiliar lock-forward position against the Raiders.

Marshall’s follow-up offer — made shortly after their heated discussion – for Doueihi to retain the halfback position against the Raiders suggests that the 29-year-old’s omission from Saturday’s game goes deeper than just a positional switch.

Mielekamp, recently-appointed as the CEO following Shane Richardson’s exit last season, is believed to be acutely aware of the reasons behind Doueihi’s shock reaction.

Another player also met with Marshall after Doueihi left his meeting with the head coach.

The 14th-placed Wests Tigers trained on Friday ahead of their important clash with the Raiders with Marshall selecting the Eels-bound Jarome Luai and rising star Javon Andrews in the halves to tackle the Raiders.

Matty Johns said on SEN radio on Friday that Luai needed to be selected for the clash with Canberra, but if the Wests Tigers couldn’t secure a victory, Marshall should begin selecting a team in the coming weeks that reflects their future.

 

[Chunk]

But is Douhei really a halfback?
What other club does he walk into and play #7?
He is a utility that can play multiple positions.
Yes, he can play #7.
Yes, he played well at the start of the year.
But he hasnt been great there the last few weeks, has he?

In a team who has scored 22 points in 4 rounds, including games against Dragons and Bulldogs - I don't know how anyone can anyone suggest his form warrants automatic selection, especially after a player like andrews who set up 4 tries the previous week.

Thats beside the point, he was the current halfback.

So he was dropped, then?

Which is fine if thats what the coach wanted, but why did it take until Thursday for it to play out.

 

[Camel2281]

When was he dropped? A positional change isn’t the same as being dropped

Exactly. And Benji didn't know until after team announcements if Adam would get off at the judiciary

 

[mtd#2]

Marshall’s follow-up offer — made shortly after their heated discussion – for Doueihi to retain the halfback position against the Raiders suggests that the 29-year-old’s omission from Saturday’s game goes deeper than just a positional switch.

This gets worse for Adam.
He was offered the chance to play #7 and push Andrews out ----- and has still chosen not to play.

 

[wstigers11]

Exactly. And Benji didn't know until after team announcements if Adam would get off at the judiciary

They should’ve just let him be suspended tbh lol

 

[Chunk]

Exactly. And Benji didn't know until after team announcements if Adam would get off at the judiciary

Well if that's the case Benji needs a close look at how he handled the situation.

A coach assumes he's getting off but Benji didn't name him at half, so you assume Andrews was preffered over AD.

But weirdly AD only found out about this on Thursday morning?????

 

[weststigers]

So Benji didn't discus this with AD prior?

Seems very strange that the coach would talk to his key playmaker only two days before the game?

I believe a decision like this would need much more investement with the player then two days before the game.

Did you check the team on Tuesday? Doueihi was named in the reserves. Why are you persisting with the narrative?

Thread 'Round 21 Vs Raiders' https://weststigersforum.com/threads/round-21-vs-raiders.37345/

 

[mtd#2]

Thats beside the point, he was the current halfback.

The current halfback in a team who has scored 22 points in 4 weeks against teams like the Bulldogs (0 points) and Dragons (10 points). Does he own the jersey?

So he was dropped, then?

Which is fine if thats what the coach wanted, but why did it take until Thursday for it to play out.

We are going around in circles.
He wasn't dropped.
He has been asked to move positions.
They are very different things.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

172 games? What’s Riccio smoking. It takes 5 seconds to google this stuff.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Doueihi would be good at 1 v 1 maybe, because he only has to look good by himself, however in a team environment I don’t think he is worth the hassle

Marshall rates him noting the meeting that has been organised. Although supporters can be disappointed, Doueihi is NRL quality player. He is a player who wears his heart on his sleeve. Marshall would know this and bringing the parties together is sensible.