Adam Doueihi #227

[Westie]

This vaping etc sounds like a Mosess/ Douhie camp clutching st straws trying to put a positive spin on things.
I vaguely remember Douhie hosting the tigers at his house and they were all jumping on the hubbly bubbly . Not that I am condoning vaping but gees come on.
Also how could bulldog Ritchie keeps straight face with all that dribble he was saying pro mosses and Douhie.

 

[innsaneink]

Assume we have anywhere from 1 to 1.2 million left over from luai and douhei.

Do they go for a proven player like a walker, then let javon and latu play it out for the 6?Not that I see us being able to pay anyone enough to come here after the luai experiment didnt work out.

As much as I hate what AD has done, we need him. Maybe he knows that.

Talk the Roosters will offer Walker a 10 year, $14m deal

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

I'm about there with you. Who we supporting?

Nobody. We will boycott the club until either the governance structure changes or it is sold to someone else.

 

[mtd#2]

That's a piss weak cop out and it's crap excuses like that why we're still a joke. Then Benji shouldn't be making a big speech about standards!! And that's BS about not fielding a team because the likes of Turuva or To'a could've been replaced by Sakuru anytime. May could've been dropped back to the bench at any point until he lifted his standards and we had Latu the whole season wasting away on the bench while Madden and Luai have stunk it up for most of the season.

Speculative? Take a look at the efforts of those players over the last two months and then tell me with a straight face that therre isn't a lot of truth to it.

I think you are partly right, but forgetting how many injuries we had at one stage.

Against the Panthers we had Geyer and Murray in the starting side. Turuva and Makasini in the centres. Jock in the halves.

Two weeks before against the storm, hope started at hooker and mason at fullback.

I can see why benji wouldnt want to shake things up further.

in all this, maybe AD is correct. Its just a shame he did it the way he did, surely he had other options?

 

[Odessa]

I just listened to it as well ... far out. If even half of that is actually true, the NRL should seriously close the joint.

It's very interesting with Terrell's form this year

 

[krissy]

It's very interesting with Terrell's form this year

Honestly he looks like he has been on a pure KFC diet. He has visibly packed on the weight and on the weekend the whole team looked so slow. Benji can tell us how great they trained but we know what we saw on that field, unfit, slow players.

 

[Fish88]

If Benji plays him, all the chat about team first all pre season and all year means nothing to the players from now on. He will lose the locker room.

 

[Tigerdazz2]

he's not a half, he's not a lock, he's too slow for the centres or backrow, so what is he? definitely not a fullback.

he dogged it for Javon Andrews debut, that's not someone who cares about the club or his teammates.

You obviously must have missed his 60m try against & his remarkable chase tackle on an opposition player that had a head start and looked certain to score a long distance try (was it v Newcastle?) both times the commentators were surprised, as was I to be honest at his speed.

Don't get me wrong, he isn't in the same group of truly fast players like Saab, Ado Carr or The Hammer, he's slow of the mark but he CAN really motor if he get a clear break without getting checked.

 

[You Know Who]

I think you are partly right, but forgetting how many injuries we had at one stage.

Against the Panthers we had Geyer and Murray in the starting side. Turuva and Makasini in the centres. Jock in the halves.

Two weeks before against the storm, hope started at hooker and mason at fullback.

I can see why benji wouldnt want to shake things up further.

in all this, maybe AD is correct. Its just a shame he did it the way he did, surely he had other options?

I haven’t forgotten about the injuries and they have played a part. However, against the Panthers, Benji also played Madden despite having Latu available. There was also no reason to pick Geyer, who had played 21 minutes the entire season at that point but was given an 80 minute start, over Tony Sukkar who was available that week and had done the job for us before.

He also could’ve left Turuva on the wing and given Saukuru his debut but instead he went partial Sheenius and moved players out of position.

I don’t blame him for his selections in the Storm game as that was the depth we had at hooker and FB.

No doubt AD is a dick for the way he has handled this. He’s embarrassed himself and the club the way he’s responded. But like I said, I think there is a fair bit of truth to the allegations about the culture and Benji’s double standards when it comes to certain players.

 

[EllisFan]

Assume we have anywhere from 1 to 1.2 million left over from luai and douhei.

Do they go for a proven player like a walker, then let javon and latu play it out for the 6?Not that I see us being able to pay anyone enough to come here after the luai experiment didnt work out.

As much as I hate what AD has done, we need him. Maybe he knows that.

We need an actual proven halves player to show the young fellas the first grade ropes.

AD has never been a halves player outside of a handful of starring solo performances.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Honestly he looks like he has been on a pure KFC diet. He has visibly packed on the weight and on the weekend the whole team looked so slow. Benji can tell us how great they trained but we know what we saw on that field, unfit, slow players.

I think what has happened is they trained really hard in the pre season, killed it in the first 1/3 of the season purely on effort, but with the level of training they did, injuries started to mount up, and the standards have relaxed. The coaching staff developed a style with our top 17 in mind and didn't account for what would happen if guys were missing from the line up. So mid-season we started changing our game to accommodate these depth players and it has messed with everything.

Personally I would like to see at least one more year from Benji before there is pressure on him. He (and head of performance Peter Moussa) got these guys training and playing to the level you need to succeed, even if it was only for one third of the year. Now they need to work out how to train to sustain that level for an entire season.

 

[rugbygoated]

Kenty slurred his way through the podcast and I doubt the majority of anything the tree tackler says however if it is true that our players are vaping during gym sessions, that would be mind blowing.

Kenty seems to have a pretty comprehensive thought out story that sounds 'believable'. Almost too much information that it must be one of the players. Who is leaking it? Family member when ol mate gets home. Social media guy... How is kenty getting access to this info?

 

[tigertragic]

You obviously must have missed his 60m try against & his remarkable chase tackle on an opposition player that had a head start and looked certain to score a long distance try (was it v Newcastle?) both times the commentators were surprised, as was I to be honest at his speed.

Don't get me wrong, he isn't in the same group of truly fast players like Saab, Ado Carr or The Hammer, he's slow of the mark but he CAN really motor if he get a clear break without getting checked.

Unfortunately it’s that off the mark speed where players get beaten and overlaps occur

 

[Wiz]

he's not a half, he's not a lock, he's too slow for the centres or backrow, so what is he? definitely not a fullback.

he dogged it for Javon Andrews debut, that's not someone who cares about the club or his teammates.

This is it. He doesn’t have a position. He stifles our attack and hogs the ball. He is a good individual player but holds the team back (or will in the future). We are best to part ways at seasons end. Short term we may be worse, but long term I think we will be better off.

 

[wstigers11]

I haven’t forgotten about the injuries and they have played a part. However, against the Panthers, Benji also played Madden despite having Latu available. There was also no reason to pick Geyer, who had played 21 minutes the entire season at that point but was given an 80 minute start, over Tony Sukkar who was available that week and had done the job for us before.

He also could’ve left Turuva on the wing and given Saukuru his debut but instead he went partial Sheenius and moved players out of position.

I don’t blame him for his selections in the Storm game as that was the depth we had at hooker and FB.

No doubt AD is a dick for the way he has handled this. He’s embarrassed himself and the club the way he’s responded. But like I said, I think there is a fair bit of truth to the allegations about the culture and Benji’s double standards when it comes to certain players.

Why would he have dropped Madden for Penrith when he played & they won the week before vs the Dogs?

 

[LiamFulton]

This all sounds very specific from Kent.

Pretty obviously fed this info.

All sounds pretty plausible, particularly the stuff about Terrell May. Luai offering to step down for AD to take his spot is also wild - what happened to brothers, and caring for this club bro?

It's just sounding like the circus I'd thought it would be on the inside, but have led myself to believe that there ain't no way a professional club can be run like that. Vaping while lifting weights, kidding themselves.

is that straight vodka in his glass? what a blitherer

 

[mtd#2]

I think what has happened is they trained really hard in the pre season, killed it in the first 1/3 of the season purely on effort, but with the level of training they did, injuries started to mount up, and the standards have relaxed. The coaching staff developed a style with our top 17 in mind and didn't account for what would happen if guys were missing from the line up. So mid-season we started changing our game to accommodate these depth players and it has messed with everything.

I agree, but I also think we have underestimated the luai factor. He was the cultural leader. They were all such a tight team. Luai would have been thinking about the move and impact to his family and its all probably flowed down to the rest of the team. It looks like ita been one big snowball (along with the injuries and re-signings $$ distraction).

 

[weststigers]

Nobody. We will boycott the club until either the governance structure changes or it is sold to someone else.

Can we support Castleford in the meantime?

 

[You Know Who]

Why would he have dropped Madden for Penrith when he played & they won the week before vs the Dogs?

He shouldn’t have been playing in the Dogs game either as he had been the HB for the past three games where we got flogged (Manly, Storm and Sharks). He did one thing in the Dogs game which was a run of the mill bomb which Tavan managed to hold onto. But apparently that’s enough to justify keeping your supposed future HB on the bench and playing out of position

 

[wstigers11]

He shouldn’t have been playing in the Dogs game either as he had been the HB for the past three games where we got flogged (Manly, Storm and Sharks). He did one thing in the Dogs game which was a run of the mill bomb which Tavan managed to hold onto. But apparently that’s enough to justify keeping your supposed future HB on the bench and playing out of position

Those three games were when we were most injury effected though. Bula, AD, Samuela, Twal, May, Masi, KPP, Api all in & out so not sure whoever was halfback would’ve stopped that. Benefit of hindsight I guess