Adam Hartigan

Hartigan was on a hiding to nothing. apparently he and Madge don't see eye to eye, Sheens went from Head of Football Performance, to Coaching Director, to Director of Football in a matter of months and then asked to bring McDonnell back. writing was on the wall. don't blame the bloke for leaving, but I'm filthy that he's out the door. I'd expect Woodward to go with him.
 
@willow said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492787) said:
@al-the-tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492697) said:
No idea why they would let go of Hartigan. With Sheens being made head of football I understand that Hartigan's job has then been made redundant but he should at least be involved in some capacity within the club in identifying and recruiting young talent (a field in which he's shown to be more than competent). And for Sheens to let go of Hartigan and bring back McDonnell... let me just say it's not been a great start to Sheens' return for me

Hartigan is gone because of McDonnell. Hartigan's brother who scouts junior talent for us in Qld also quit last night.

Can you expand on this Willow? The way I interpret what you have said here is that McDonnell has been appointed and Hartigan left on his own volition as a result?
 
@jrtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492806) said:
Hartigan was on a hiding to nothing. apparently he and Madge don't see eye to eye, Sheens went from Head of Football Performance, to Coaching Director, to Director of Football in a matter of months and then asked to bring McDonnell back. writing was on the wall. don't blame the bloke for leaving, but I'm filthy that he's out the door. I'd expect Woodward to go with him.

I have no idea if Woodward is good at what he does or not, but I hate the way he goes on SEN and shoots his mouth. Again I have no idea of whether he is good at what he does, but I do know that our team is not good at what it does.

We do need change. Not sure if McDonnell is the change we need.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492809) said:
@jrtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492806) said:
Hartigan was on a hiding to nothing. apparently he and Madge don't see eye to eye, Sheens went from Head of Football Performance, to Coaching Director, to Director of Football in a matter of months and then asked to bring McDonnell back. writing was on the wall. don't blame the bloke for leaving, but I'm filthy that he's out the door. I'd expect Woodward to go with him.

I have no idea if Woodward is good at what he does or not, but I hate the way he goes on SEN and shoots his mouth. Again I have no idea of whether he is good at what he does, but I do know that our team is not good at what it does.

We do need change. Not sure if McDonnell is the change we need.

he effectively invented the Moneyball system for rugby league when he was at Melbourne, which has given them the ability to identify kids at a young age and players that fly under the radar of most clubs. I know for a fact Jake Simpkin was discovered with the system. the only issue is whether or not we are able to use it after he leaves, or whether he takes it with him.
 
@mike said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492716) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492703) said:
I'm being completely serious ...can someone from the NRL give the WT's 3 years to stop this crap or the WT's are gone

This club is beyond embarassing .....

I really don't know what to make of this action. I just hope Sheens knows what he is doing.


Judging by Sheens record in the last few few years before he was booted i am now highly concerned about where he is taking us.With Macca coming back as well nepotism and poor judgement seems the most likely future over the next few years.I am sure Roycie is putting the witches hats in the back of the ute getting ready for his triumphant return.
 
Sheens should have been left with junior pathways. That would have been an ideal appointment for him. Instead we are going straight back to 2012.

I am going to have a hard time supporting them next year if Sizzler comes back.
 
@jadtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492817) said:
@mike said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492716) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492703) said:
I'm being completely serious ...can someone from the NRL give the WT's 3 years to stop this crap or the WT's are gone

This club is beyond embarassing .....

I really don't know what to make of this action. I just hope Sheens knows what he is doing.


Judging by Sheens record in the last few few years before he was booted i am now highly concerned about where he is taking us.With Macca coming back as well nepotism and poor judgement seems the most likely future over the next few years.I am sure Roycie is putting the witches hats in the back of the ute getting ready for his triumphant return.

I don't like the sound of this at all.
 
@jadtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492817) said:
@mike said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492716) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492703) said:
I'm being completely serious ...can someone from the NRL give the WT's 3 years to stop this crap or the WT's are gone

This club is beyond embarassing .....

I really don't know what to make of this action. I just hope Sheens knows what he is doing.


Judging by Sheens record in the last few few years before he was booted i am now highly concerned about where he is taking us.With Macca coming back as well nepotism and poor judgement seems the most likely future over the next few years.I am sure Roycie is putting the witches hats in the back of the ute getting ready for his triumphant return.

The COE is getting re-modelled for a flying fox as we speak..
 
@geo said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492824) said:
@jadtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492817) said:
@mike said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492716) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492703) said:
I'm being completely serious ...can someone from the NRL give the WT's 3 years to stop this crap or the WT's are gone

This club is beyond embarassing .....

I really don't know what to make of this action. I just hope Sheens knows what he is doing.


Judging by Sheens record in the last few few years before he was booted i am now highly concerned about where he is taking us.With Macca coming back as well nepotism and poor judgement seems the most likely future over the next few years.I am sure Roycie is putting the witches hats in the back of the ute getting ready for his triumphant return.

The COE is getting re-modelled for a flying fox as we speak..

what's your verdict on Hartigan leaving if it's the case?
 
@jrtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492825) said:
@geo said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492824) said:
@jadtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492817) said:
@mike said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492716) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492703) said:
I'm being completely serious ...can someone from the NRL give the WT's 3 years to stop this crap or the WT's are gone

This club is beyond embarassing .....

I really don't know what to make of this action. I just hope Sheens knows what he is doing.


Judging by Sheens record in the last few few years before he was booted i am now highly concerned about where he is taking us.With Macca coming back as well nepotism and poor judgement seems the most likely future over the next few years.I am sure Roycie is putting the witches hats in the back of the ute getting ready for his triumphant return.

The COE is getting re-modelled for a flying fox as we speak..

what's your verdict on Hartigan leaving if it's the case?

Same as 12 posts ago..

They basically duplicated the role with Sheens appointment… the writing was on the wall from the time they fluffed around with Sheens job description

Another thing I will say about Hartigan he implemented the Cap management policy …valuing positions as well as talent identification procedures …some may not agree with the decisions costing us recruitment targets …not overpaying the likes of Aloiai to stay going over the top for TPJ etc but it has put us in a good position mid to long term…

These decisions need to be maintained… I have my doubts…
 
I think the writing was on the wall when we kept Madge. We just gave 100% control to a guy that has already stuffed our cap in the past.
 
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492828) said:
I think the writing was on the wall when we kept Madge. We just gave 100% control to a guy that has already stuffed our cap in the past.

Did Hartigan not want Madge?
 
No problem with the appointment of Macca..was responsible for identifying young talent Tedesco, Moses & Benji. Our downfall was not keeping them. Keep the faith & go the mighty Tigers!!!!
 
Further to my last post, this is why we are a joke.

A coach we sacked in 2012 and took us to court because he thought we were underhanded in trying to change his role has been elevated to director of football while we had a GM of football and has effectively had no issue with pushing that guy at first out of his role, and then ultimately out of the club with nepotistic appointments.

Said bloke is going to have a guy on his football staff that was also pushed out of the club only to return 18 months later.

Absolute shambles as an organisation.
 
I mean how could they replace Hartigan.

Look this is the guy who helped us recruit
Latrell Mitchell
Josh Ado Carr
Tevita Pangai Jnr
Dale Finucane

I mean a head of footy who lead those brilliant recruiting wins and we are getting rid of him. Shambles
 
Can someone explain to me in shortest terms possible why everyone seems to dislike This mcdonnel guy

Was he the guy who signed blair or what
 
@thedaboss said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1492843) said:
Can someone explain to me in shortest terms possible why everyone seems to dislike This mcdonnel guy

Was he the guy who signed blair or what


He sucks
 

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