Adam Hartigan

[tony soprano]

Sheens gangster

 

[needsanewusername]

No problem with the appointment of Macca..was responsible for identifying young talent Tedesco, Moses & Benji. Our downfall was not keeping them. Keep the faith & go the mighty Tigers!!!!

Interesting examples of "identifying young talent".

Agree with Benji, brought through the Keebra system which apparently McDonnell was involved with.

Tedesco is born in Ryde to a family that has sponsored Balmain for decades and moved to Narellan, played for Camden Rams and went to St Gregs, played Wests juniors since 15. Hardly "identified or found".

Moses was a Tigers junior, born in Ryde and played for Holy Cross & Carlingford but rather than being "identified or found" was allowed to be poached by Parra but Parra cut him and we signed him after Harold Matts.

Genuinely dont see any incredible work here.

Wasn't Tedesco and his family, always roosters fans?
I'm sure that's a narrative that has been pushed before.

He and his Dad are/were Roosters fans, all his Uncles and extended family (italian/maltese) are Balmain/Tigers fans.

Makes sense.
Thanks for clarifying....

Knew there was some media spin when he signed saying it was his dream to play for the roosters or something.

Ive told this story many times here. I was talking to his Uncle (Balmain sponsor) about Teddy before he had debuted in first grade and there was a lot of speculation about him leaving and he hadnt signed a Contract with us yet. I was asking his Uncle whether he was going to sign and he told me then that Teddy had no loyalty to the club and wanted to be a Rooster. At the time basically he was going to stay only because it was the "right thing" after his early injuries.

Did he have a lot of injuries in the juniors as well?

 

[Tiger5150]

No problem with the appointment of Macca..was responsible for identifying young talent Tedesco, Moses & Benji. Our downfall was not keeping them. Keep the faith & go the mighty Tigers!!!!

Interesting examples of "identifying young talent".

Agree with Benji, brought through the Keebra system which apparently McDonnell was involved with.

Tedesco is born in Ryde to a family that has sponsored Balmain for decades and moved to Narellan, played for Camden Rams and went to St Gregs, played Wests juniors since 15. Hardly "identified or found".

Moses was a Tigers junior, born in Ryde and played for Holy Cross & Carlingford but rather than being "identified or found" was allowed to be poached by Parra but Parra cut him and we signed him after Harold Matts.

Genuinely dont see any incredible work here.

Wasn't Tedesco and his family, always roosters fans?
I'm sure that's a narrative that has been pushed before.

He and his Dad are/were Roosters fans, all his Uncles and extended family (italian/maltese) are Balmain/Tigers fans.

Makes sense.
Thanks for clarifying....

Knew there was some media spin when he signed saying it was his dream to play for the roosters or something.

Ive told this story many times here. I was talking to his Uncle (Balmain sponsor) about Teddy before he had debuted in first grade and there was a lot of speculation about him leaving and he hadnt signed a Contract with us yet. I was asking his Uncle whether he was going to sign and he told me then that Teddy had no loyalty to the club and wanted to be a Rooster. At the time basically he was going to stay only because it was the "right thing" after his early injuries.

Did he have a lot of injuries in the juniors as well?

From memory, the ACL injury in his debut, wasnt his first. Yes he had significant injuries prior to debut.

 

[rustycage]

No idea why they would let go of Hartigan. With Sheens being made head of football I understand that Hartigan's job has then been made redundant but he should at least be involved in some capacity within the club in identifying and recruiting young talent (a field in which he's shown to be more than competent). And for Sheens to let go of Hartigan and bring back McDonnell... let me just say it's not been a great start to Sheens' return for me

Why are people so surprised. Personally I don’t know how anyone thinks bringing Sheens back is a good thing for the WestsTigers Brand must have short memories?

∆
This.

His first move is sheenius.

 

[needsanewusername]

No problem with the appointment of Macca..was responsible for identifying young talent Tedesco, Moses & Benji. Our downfall was not keeping them. Keep the faith & go the mighty Tigers!!!!

Interesting examples of "identifying young talent".

Agree with Benji, brought through the Keebra system which apparently McDonnell was involved with.

Tedesco is born in Ryde to a family that has sponsored Balmain for decades and moved to Narellan, played for Camden Rams and went to St Gregs, played Wests juniors since 15. Hardly "identified or found".

Moses was a Tigers junior, born in Ryde and played for Holy Cross & Carlingford but rather than being "identified or found" was allowed to be poached by Parra but Parra cut him and we signed him after Harold Matts.

Genuinely dont see any incredible work here.

Wasn't Tedesco and his family, always roosters fans?
I'm sure that's a narrative that has been pushed before.

He and his Dad are/were Roosters fans, all his Uncles and extended family (italian/maltese) are Balmain/Tigers fans.

Makes sense.
Thanks for clarifying....

Knew there was some media spin when he signed saying it was his dream to play for the roosters or something.

Ive told this story many times here. I was talking to his Uncle (Balmain sponsor) about Teddy before he had debuted in first grade and there was a lot of speculation about him leaving and he hadnt signed a Contract with us yet. I was asking his Uncle whether he was going to sign and he told me then that Teddy had no loyalty to the club and wanted to be a Rooster. At the time basically he was going to stay only because it was the "right thing" after his early injuries.

Did he have a lot of injuries in the juniors as well?

From memory, the ACL injury in his debut, wasnt his first. Yes he had significant injuries prior to debut.

That’s not good for him in later life.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

Most here were happy with the Sheens signing. This is a logical result given Hartigan was the GM of Football (why would he stay once his role was gutted). The club has stated it is all in on juniors so it doesn’t feel like the strategy is going to deviate greatly. Isn’t this what we all wanted? Change?

 

[weststigerman]

Most here were happy with the Sheens signing. This is a logical result given Hartigan was the GM of Football (why would he stay once his role was gutted). The club has stated it is all in on juniors so it doesn’t feel like the strategy is going to deviate greatly. Isn’t this what we all wanted? Change?

Agree.

Serious change had to happen. While I'm surprised its Hartigan given he seemed to have a lot of support, I doubt any of us are close enough to the club to know where the problems are, the only thing that's obvious is the current situation is not working. That has now changed.

 

[Aubanon]

The one thing I found off-putting about Adam (Rightly or wrongly) was how he would bag the club/coach whenever we were unable to land a big signing to his inner circle. Again (rightly or wrongly) some in his inner circle would leak this info out.

 

[Tiger5150]

Most here were happy with the Sheens signing. This is a logical result given Hartigan was the GM of Football (why would he stay once his role was gutted). The club has stated it is all in on juniors so it doesn’t feel like the strategy is going to deviate greatly. Isn’t this what we all wanted? Change?

Change is necessary. I have no idea if Hartigan was part of the problem or solution. I would be happier about the change if McDonnell wasnt "the solution".

 

[rustycage]

i dont care as long as we deliver results on field.
Doesnt bother me which Tom, Dick and Harry combination gets us winning games.
Sick of being ridiculed as a Wests Tigers Supporter

Agreed...we need more Tom's and Harry's. But we have enough Dick's already.

 

[PJ_]

i dont care as long as we deliver results on field.
Doesnt bother me which Tom, Dick and Harry combination gets us winning games.
Sick of being ridiculed as a Wests Tigers Supporter

Agreed...we need more Tom's and Harry's. But we have enough Dick's already.

Suitable for a team of pussies

 

[Newtown]

Punt Pascoe

Who in Wests tigers management has the power to punt him?

 

[davey_farrell]

Loose lips Lee

 

[Goanna57]

As long as the result come who cares . Majority of people wanted change now change is happening if we start improving as a club on and off field I for one am all for it

 

[hobbo1]

Punt Pascoe

Who in Wests tigers management has the power to punt him?


 

[the_third]

Change is good. I like change. Now Brooks.

How is it change when Hartigan's being replaced by McDonnell who has been here twice before...

It's still change lol

does warren have any kids he's going to give a contract to?

 

[the_third]

Punt Pascoe

Who in Wests tigers management has the power to punt him?


he's half he-man half skellator...."I have the powerrrrrrrrr"

can anyone tell me what's crawling out of his ear?

 

[Newtown]

Punt Pascoe

Who in Wests tigers management has the power to punt him?


Based on this guy's hair style Pascoe would be one of his followers. Therefore Pascoe will be staying.

 

[jadtiger]

Change is good. I like change. Now Brooks.

How is it change when Hartigan's being replaced by McDonnell who has been here twice before...

It's still change lol


does warren have any kids he's going to give a contract to?

Probably a few nephews and grandkids to keep a close eye on,you can never sign them up too early

 

[hank37w]

Please tell me if I'm asking too much...

But guys who have a closer relationship to the club than others...

@willow @cochise @NT_Tiger @Geo and any one else...?

The clubs been patient but how likely is it we see some wholesale changes after such poor seasons?

Surely Madge is not safe even if they portray this in the United front which they have been doing...

For us outsiders, what's the likelihood or are the club not transparent with this stuff with the fans?

Really good question @demps Honestly I doubt they make a change at coach. I have been told time and again that there won't be a change.

Personally I would like to see a change at coach, the issue is who is the replacement? In my opinion every option comes with massive issues and isn't a high percentage chance of improving the club.

I would be looking at Gardiner with a lot of support from really strong assistants, I'm talking about people who have NRL experience i.e Dean Pay as a defensive coach, strong input from Sheens. Hartigan and Gardiner have a really strong relationship and will complement each other well and both have a good focus on development and pathways. The issue is he is not a big name so would he be able to help in fixing the issue of recruiting high profile players? I don't think so, so Sheens input in those discussions would be critical.

It is a really tough position to be in as a club and their is no quick fix to this mess.

I would love to see that scenario play out. I think Gardiner surrounded by top assistants with Sheens overseeing things would be a revelation.

Gardiner wont be here if Madge is sacked.

Why do you think that?

Sure there is a souths connection but he is also tight with Hartigan. Said it himself...

https://youtu.be/RRWcsMCDAWE

They are close. He’s also NZ assistant if I’m correct. He’s not equiped for the job it’s one that very few can do. I hate the agenda being driven but Flanagan is easily the best option maybe Ciraldo but he’s be dumb to even think about taking it as a sought after rookie head coach.

Flanagan get take a long walk on a short pier.

You forgot the besser block attached to his ankle ....

Yes, hard to find an Early Kooka these days.