Adam Hartigan

@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493804) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493800) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493799) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493793) said:
In all honesty it was in the gossip section of today's paper, it is probably referring the Hartigan and they didn't update the page after Friday.

The other day you said 2 rats were caught, if Hartigan was one of them there is still at least one other currently at the club so the article could be true (for a change)

Hartigan was not one of them.

Then there's still a couple ? lose. It' shaping up to be one of the bloodiest off season in our history


I have been critical of Lee in the past for not doing enough. In his post review statement to Chammas he spoke about the need for organisational restructuring and positional changes. I may need to buy some humble pie? I hope?
 
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493792) said:
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Goodbye.
 
@harvey said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493567) said:
@tigerwest said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493526) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493513) said:
@tigerwest said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493511) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493507) said:
@tigerwest said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493499) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493467) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493415) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493414) said:
I actually think Hartigan was a smart recruit when we got him and the fruits of his work needed time - it was never a quick win. He was one I wanted to stay around for a while.

With Sheens coming, having a GM of football as well was never going to work. Sheens is hands on, he was always going to bring in his flavor to our setup and Hartigan role was always going to reduce.

With another NRL team joining the fold our method of not paying overs and sticking to our principles 100% of the time just isn’t smart business.

I just hope Sheens doesn’t blow our budget, he does like to throw money at recruits and just hope in 2-3yrs we aren’t looking at a bunch of wasted $$$ on the sideline or has been players.

That is my worry too, I'll back Sheens as he is here now and in control, but he did stuff our Cap on multiple occasions while he was here the 1st time.

Time will tell.
One thing is for sure ….. we desperately needed some circuit breakers and I always thought the first of those would have been a high profile signing.
But this change, from another angle, may also prove effective and hopefully may push us into a better position on both fronts ….. coaching and recruitment.
The club had to do something to effect large scale change and they now did.
So we can now just watch, hope and pray that it brings positive results to the club and us fans ….. on and off the field.

We had to buy a real solid FG, Hodgson may be that one, but prior to him, we didn’t seem interested in getting into that game, unfortunately that was on Hartigan, if he thought we needed to up our bids to players, he had the chance, which he didn’t appear to take?

Maybe he thought that all clubs were like Easts, where players are drawn to there success? Instead of getting us the players we needed?

The TPJs, JACs and LMs of the world are not the ones I would blow my money on though.

It’s semantics who, but we need someone , is my point. Sitting here waiting for development to evolve is not acceptable either imo.

Yeah you get one shot though so it has to be the right person. You blow it and it effects you for years. So we don't just need someone, we need the right person, that's what got us in this mess to start with.

Sorry, but the right person, is someone, I never indicated that it should be a Neville?

I’m not sure how someone like JAC would have gone, but he brings cred and other players attention to the team, that may have been interested, but moved on and looked elsewhere.

But I don’t mean to blow our load on someone obscure, I hope we retain the philosophy we currently have, of looking at solid players.

Unfortunately, with the pressure on the club (and now Sheens) to get some success, they may well do something from left field?

That is the worry. We are already seeing clubs dangle their cast-offs in front of us, and we are biting regardless of need, cost and what they will add to the side. It is about perception and nothing else

Are we though ?or is It just playing around at salvos looking for a bargain? Absolutely next to intention to buy anything just having a look . It’s just every time we do , thier manager rings Chammas and it’s all over the papers .
 
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493633) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493626) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493576) said:
Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .
 
@strongee said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493833) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493633) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493626) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493576) said:
Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap
 
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493835) said:
@strongee said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493833) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493633) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493626) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493576) said:
Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .
 
@strongee said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493849) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493835) said:
@strongee said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493833) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493633) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493626) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493576) said:
Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I was hoping Hartigan would be that balance which is what has raised my concern over the increasing role of Sheens.
 
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493792) said:
![alt text](https://www.weststigers.com.au/siteassets/about/wests-tigers-board/dennis.png?center=0.55%2C0.5&preset=card-default-585x420)

Dennis is the most ridiculous, cartoon figure in a board that is having a lot of attention put on them due to the poor performance of the club in general.

The fact that Dennis looks like a ridiculous cartoon figure doesnt necessarily mean that he is the leaker.

I dont personally know what his performance is as a board member...at all. I have zero clue whether he is an asset or not. I do think he looks ridiculous but I also think people should be free to be themselves.

TLDR.....I'd rather cut board members on the basis of whether they are leaking information rather than how ridiculous they look.
 
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493800) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493799) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493793) said:
In all honesty it was in the gossip section of today's paper, it is probably referring the Hartigan and they didn't update the page after Friday.

The other day you said 2 rats were caught, if Hartigan was one of them there is still at least one other currently at the club so the article could be true (for a change)

Hartigan was not one of them.

So you have heard a leak about the out come of the leak inquiry? Brilliant. Club better set up another leak inquiry.
 
@snake said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493807) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493792) said:
![alt text](https://www.weststigers.com.au/siteassets/about/wests-tigers-board/dennis.png?center=0.55%2C0.5&preset=card-default-585x420)

Does this guy know the lock down is over ? Can go to a barber now !

Looks like a crack dealer
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493806) said:
So we have the DT supposedly reportedly another "administrator" may be in doubt.

I guess this is a "leak" from an acceptable source who has provided the information to the reputable DT.

So can we drop the paranoia about leaks and just attribute all "leaked" information to Deep Throat!

Since when has the Dsily Telecrsp ever needed a source… or reputable or not
 
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493804) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493800) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493799) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493793) said:
In all honesty it was in the gossip section of today's paper, it is probably referring the Hartigan and they didn't update the page after Friday.

The other day you said 2 rats were caught, if Hartigan was one of them there is still at least one other currently at the club so the article could be true (for a change)

Hartigan was not one of them.

Then there's still a couple ? lose. It' shaping up to be one of the bloodiest off season in our history


There has been 2 rats on the board since Marina Go was backstabbed.They should have been rissoled then
 
@jadtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493916) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493804) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493800) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493799) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493793) said:
In all honesty it was in the gossip section of today's paper, it is probably referring the Hartigan and they didn't update the page after Friday.

The other day you said 2 rats were caught, if Hartigan was one of them there is still at least one other currently at the club so the article could be true (for a change)

Hartigan was not one of them.

Then there's still a couple ? lose. It' shaping up to be one of the bloodiest off season in our history


There has been 2 rats on the board since Marina Go was backstabbed.They should have been rissoled then

Surely not Simon ....
 
@happy_tiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493917) said:
@jadtiger said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493916) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493804) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493800) said:
@aj1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493799) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493793) said:
In all honesty it was in the gossip section of today's paper, it is probably referring the Hartigan and they didn't update the page after Friday.

The other day you said 2 rats were caught, if Hartigan was one of them there is still at least one other currently at the club so the article could be true (for a change)

Hartigan was not one of them.

Then there's still a couple ? lose. It' shaping up to be one of the bloodiest off season in our history


There has been 2 rats on the board since Marina Go was backstabbed.They should have been rissoled then

Surely not Simon ....

Surely not ?
 
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493851) said:
@strongee said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493849) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493835) said:
@strongee said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493833) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493633) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493626) said:
@tyga said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493576) said:
Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I was hoping Hartigan would be that balance which is what has raised my concern over the increasing role of Sheens.

I understand what you are saying with this, and I have say I agree with you.....but.....

It seems to me that other than Melbourne (and potentially Roosters) all clubs have to roll the dice with salary cap. I'd put it to you that Cleary screwed our cap harder than Sheens did. Penrith just won the comp and if the media is to be believed, they are already needing to push players out.

Our salary cap is nice and neatly sorted right now. Nice and neat and safe and tidy and we dont look like threatening success on the field at all. Fortune favours the bold and all that.

I think (calculated) risks need to be taken. I am very nervous about McDonnell being brought back but heartened that the club seems to be making changes.
 
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493798) said:
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@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493775) said:
Dt reporting another high profile WT administrator in the the firing line.

Hopefully its the leaders!
but then who leaked this to DT?
We'll end up sacking everyone!

I would think it is one of the leakers as well

What was Hartigan’s mates name? Did a lot of the analysis work, might be him?

He isn't really an administrator, Scott Woodward

No the bloke (Indian or Asian sounding name) came in with Hartigan I thought?
 
@tigerwest said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493929) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493798) said:
@tigerwest said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493795) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493791) said:
@frullens said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493785) said:
@cochise said in [Adam Hartigan](/post/1493775) said:
Dt reporting another high profile WT administrator in the the firing line.

Hopefully its the leaders!
but then who leaked this to DT?
We'll end up sacking everyone!

I would think it is one of the leakers as well

What was Hartigan’s mates name? Did a lot of the analysis work, might be him?

He isn't really an administrator, Scott Woodward

No the bloke (Indian or Asian sounding name) came in with Hartigan I thought?

Fita Hala came from Roosters too if I'm not wrong. Polynesian bloke.
 
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