Addo Carr signs with Storm...

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Lets delete this topic and forget about this awful news.

The sooner its over and done with the better.
This club leaders don't have much of a brain in retaining potential superstars

Hang on, they do, Brooks and Moses ..
Look at how they are blossoming at the moment

They will sign and re-sign all 2nd string footballers and let the ones with great FG potential slip through

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I've said many times that JAC is a potential game breaker, if he isn't already. Blind Freddy could see his talent with the way he was tearing it up in NSW Cup. It's absolutely absurd that he wasn't given more opportunities in the top grade earlier. Arguments put forward by posters included that he needed more experience, better defense, blah, blah, blah. What a load of rubbish. How is he supposed to get more experience unless he's blooded in the top side? In his handful of games he has shown he is outstanding under the high ball, a dynamo in attack and that he can defend. Not only that but he's combative and a bit feisty - just what you want in a young winger. Now that he seems to have been given his rightful spot ahead of Rankin, we learn that he has probably gone. And why? Because of the stubborn, short sighted attitude of Taylor. The comment that he is only a winger is nonsense too. You cannot coach speed, raw ability or some of the skills JAC demonstrated in the last game. The Tigers need speed out wide, a player to finish off moves and someone other than Tedesco to run the length of the field. Additionally, wingers do much more than finish these days, including taking settlers down their end and JAC has shown he can do this. This latest failure to hang on to young talent, hot on the heels of the Koro and Martin departures, has annoyed me big time. The club couldn't find an extra 20 000 or whatever it was to keep a player who clearly wanted to be at the club???? Have I missed something?

So because he wasn't given a go earlier, that's why he's decided to leave?
Stubborn.. Short sighted Taylor.
Nothing to do with Melbourne's apparent more lucrative offer?
The same JT that planned for Teddy's probable origin absence with the more experienced Rankin on the wing ahead of a new recruit from the Sharks U/20s…
Coaches go into seasons prepared to back themselves and work hard overong periods of time to get things right.
There are enough occurrences thru a season to force changes to a coaches hand without him chopping and changing things every couple of weeks
Remember... Teams that win comps use the least players

So we let a winger with outstanding pace and x factor asking for an extremely modest amount of money walk so JT can play his love child on the wing? On his modest salary alone he is a huge asset to the club and I am pleased he is rightfully selected on the wing ahead of Rankin.

 

[TrueTiger]

I've said many times that JAC is a potential game breaker, if he isn't already. Blind Freddy could see his talent with the way he was tearing it up in NSW Cup. It's absolutely absurd that he wasn't given more opportunities in the top grade earlier. Arguments put forward by posters included that he needed more experience, better defense, blah, blah, blah. What a load of rubbish. How is he supposed to get more experience unless he's blooded in the top side? In his handful of games he has shown he is outstanding under the high ball, a dynamo in attack and that he can defend. Not only that but he's combative and a bit feisty - just what you want in a young winger. Now that he seems to have been given his rightful spot ahead of Rankin, we learn that he has probably gone. And why? Because of the stubborn, short sighted attitude of Taylor. The comment that he is only a winger is nonsense too. You cannot coach speed, raw ability or some of the skills JAC demonstrated in the last game. The Tigers need speed out wide, a player to finish off moves and someone other than Tedesco to run the length of the field. Additionally, wingers do much more than finish these days, including taking settlers down their end and JAC has shown he can do this. This latest failure to hang on to young talent, hot on the heels of the Koro and Martin departures, has annoyed me big time. The club couldn't find an extra 20 000 or whatever it was to keep a player who clearly wanted to be at the club???? Have I missed something?

So because he wasn't given a go earlier, that's why he's decided to leave?
Stubborn.. Short sighted Taylor.
Nothing to do with Melbourne's apparent more lucrative offer?
The same JT that planned for Teddy's probable origin absence with the more experienced Rankin on the wing ahead of a new recruit from the Sharks U/20s…
Coaches go into seasons prepared to back themselves and work hard overong periods of time to get things right.
There are enough occurrences thru a season to force changes to a coaches hand without him chopping and changing things every couple of weeks
Remember... Teams that win comps use the least players

So we let a winger with outstanding pace and x factor asking for an extremely modest amount of money walk so JT can play his love child on the wing? On his modest salary alone he is a huge asset to the club and I am pleased he is rightfully selected on the wing ahead of Rankin.

Some people have absolutely no idea….JAC was still developing when WTs recruited Rankin,who has been an astute buy for the money he is on..experience is what's needed,now that JAC has developed further why don't you belittle Rankin some more if it floats your boat...

 

[innsaneink]

I've said many times that JAC is a potential game breaker, if he isn't already. Blind Freddy could see his talent with the way he was tearing it up in NSW Cup. It's absolutely absurd that he wasn't given more opportunities in the top grade earlier. Arguments put forward by posters included that he needed more experience, better defense, blah, blah, blah. What a load of rubbish. How is he supposed to get more experience unless he's blooded in the top side? In his handful of games he has shown he is outstanding under the high ball, a dynamo in attack and that he can defend. Not only that but he's combative and a bit feisty - just what you want in a young winger. Now that he seems to have been given his rightful spot ahead of Rankin, we learn that he has probably gone. And why? Because of the stubborn, short sighted attitude of Taylor. The comment that he is only a winger is nonsense too. You cannot coach speed, raw ability or some of the skills JAC demonstrated in the last game. The Tigers need speed out wide, a player to finish off moves and someone other than Tedesco to run the length of the field. Additionally, wingers do much more than finish these days, including taking settlers down their end and JAC has shown he can do this. This latest failure to hang on to young talent, hot on the heels of the Koro and Martin departures, has annoyed me big time. The club couldn't find an extra 20 000 or whatever it was to keep a player who clearly wanted to be at the club???? Have I missed something?

So because he wasn't given a go earlier, that's why he's decided to leave?
Stubborn.. Short sighted Taylor.
Nothing to do with Melbourne's apparent more lucrative offer?
The same JT that planned for Teddy's probable origin absence with the more experienced Rankin on the wing ahead of a new recruit from the Sharks U/20s…
Coaches go into seasons prepared to back themselves and work hard overong periods of time to get things right.
There are enough occurrences thru a season to force changes to a coaches hand without him chopping and changing things every couple of weeks
Remember... Teams that win comps use the least players

So we let a winger with outstanding pace and x factor asking for an extremely modest amount of money walk so JT can play his love child on the wing? On his modest salary alone he is a huge asset to the club and I am pleased he is rightfully selected on the wing ahead of Rankin.

If you've read my posts you'll see I too am pleased he's cracked first grade.
Im disappointed the club has been slack in tieing him up.
I believe that's someone else's dept other than the stubborn, short sighted coach
What's your point?

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I've said many times that JAC is a potential game breaker, if he isn't already. Blind Freddy could see his talent with the way he was tearing it up in NSW Cup. It's absolutely absurd that he wasn't given more opportunities in the top grade earlier. Arguments put forward by posters included that he needed more experience, better defense, blah, blah, blah. What a load of rubbish. How is he supposed to get more experience unless he's blooded in the top side? In his handful of games he has shown he is outstanding under the high ball, a dynamo in attack and that he can defend. Not only that but he's combative and a bit feisty - just what you want in a young winger. Now that he seems to have been given his rightful spot ahead of Rankin, we learn that he has probably gone. And why? Because of the stubborn, short sighted attitude of Taylor. The comment that he is only a winger is nonsense too. You cannot coach speed, raw ability or some of the skills JAC demonstrated in the last game. The Tigers need speed out wide, a player to finish off moves and someone other than Tedesco to run the length of the field. Additionally, wingers do much more than finish these days, including taking settlers down their end and JAC has shown he can do this. This latest failure to hang on to young talent, hot on the heels of the Koro and Martin departures, has annoyed me big time. The club couldn't find an extra 20 000 or whatever it was to keep a player who clearly wanted to be at the club???? Have I missed something?

So because he wasn't given a go earlier, that's why he's decided to leave?
Stubborn.. Short sighted Taylor.
Nothing to do with Melbourne's apparent more lucrative offer?
The same JT that planned for Teddy's probable origin absence with the more experienced Rankin on the wing ahead of a new recruit from the Sharks U/20s…
Coaches go into seasons prepared to back themselves and work hard overong periods of time to get things right.
There are enough occurrences thru a season to force changes to a coaches hand without him chopping and changing things every couple of weeks
Remember... Teams that win comps use the least players

So we let a winger with outstanding pace and x factor asking for an extremely modest amount of money walk so JT can play his love child on the wing? On his modest salary alone he is a huge asset to the club and I am pleased he is rightfully selected on the wing ahead of Rankin.

Some people have absolutely no idea….JAC was still developing when WTs recruited Rankin,who has been an astute buy for the money he is on..experience is what's needed,now that JAC has developed further why don't you belittle Rankin some more if it floats your boat...

Where do we get off with our self congratulatory "astute buy" and "smart management" of the salary cap.

Rankin is not a winger and never will be one and I question why JAC was not put straight onto the wing in place of Rankin at the start of the year? Rankin was attempting to learn a new position so why not put a player there who has pace and the x factor? More to the point, JAC offers far more than being a winger. I believe his best position is centre where he played many games for the Sharks.

 

[TrueTiger]

His point is to bag out JT as per usual..as you stated Ink,someone else's department handling the finances,however its easier to blame the one they dislike the most…

 

[Geo]

Everyone getting in a tis over a winger…besides apart from various gossip and rumour sites I'm yet to see anything official that he has gone..they have changed from 3 yrs with the Storm back to 2 so that's encouraging Bellamy can work his wonders then Addo can come back in 2019 still only 22 as he said all he ever wanted to do as a kid is play for the WT...

 

[TrueTiger]

Its called experience Paws,something JAC had very little of and WTs didn't know how well he had developed…Rankin has plenty of experience although he may not posses the speed and ability he does have plenty of knowledge..

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I've said many times that JAC is a potential game breaker, if he isn't already. Blind Freddy could see his talent with the way he was tearing it up in NSW Cup. It's absolutely absurd that he wasn't given more opportunities in the top grade earlier. Arguments put forward by posters included that he needed more experience, better defense, blah, blah, blah. What a load of rubbish. How is he supposed to get more experience unless he's blooded in the top side? In his handful of games he has shown he is outstanding under the high ball, a dynamo in attack and that he can defend. Not only that but he's combative and a bit feisty - just what you want in a young winger. Now that he seems to have been given his rightful spot ahead of Rankin, we learn that he has probably gone. And why? Because of the stubborn, short sighted attitude of Taylor. The comment that he is only a winger is nonsense too. You cannot coach speed, raw ability or some of the skills JAC demonstrated in the last game. The Tigers need speed out wide, a player to finish off moves and someone other than Tedesco to run the length of the field. Additionally, wingers do much more than finish these days, including taking settlers down their end and JAC has shown he can do this. This latest failure to hang on to young talent, hot on the heels of the Koro and Martin departures, has annoyed me big time. The club couldn't find an extra 20 000 or whatever it was to keep a player who clearly wanted to be at the club???? Have I missed something?

So because he wasn't given a go earlier, that's why he's decided to leave?
Stubborn.. Short sighted Taylor.
Nothing to do with Melbourne's apparent more lucrative offer?
The same JT that planned for Teddy's probable origin absence with the more experienced Rankin on the wing ahead of a new recruit from the Sharks U/20s…
Coaches go into seasons prepared to back themselves and work hard overong periods of time to get things right.
There are enough occurrences thru a season to force changes to a coaches hand without him chopping and changing things every couple of weeks
Remember... Teams that win comps use the least players

So we let a winger with outstanding pace and x factor asking for an extremely modest amount of money walk so JT can play his love child on the wing? On his modest salary alone he is a huge asset to the club and I am pleased he is rightfully selected on the wing ahead of Rankin.

If you've read my posts you'll see I too am pleased he's cracked first grade.
Im disappointed the club has been slack in tieing him up.
I believe that's someone else's dept other than the stubborn, short sighted coach
What's your point?

Why did it take JT so long to recognise that JAC has far more to offer than Rankin on the wing? Why could he not sum up the individual skills of each player prior to the start of the season? JAC had every right to feel disappointed when it became clear Rankin was never going to be a success on the wing.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

His point is to bag out JT as per usual..as you stated Ink,someone else's department handling the finances,however its easier to blame the one they dislike the most…

Until recently as far as I am aware, JT was the selector. Perhaps the JAC farce is one of the reasons O'Neill is now part of the selection process.

 

[innsaneink]

He was straight from Toyota cup.

JT obviously went with experience first.

Its easy to understand… We don't have to agree with it

Chopping and changing isn't what you want unless necessary

 

[innsaneink]

His point is to bag out JT as per usual..as you stated Ink,someone else's department handling the finances,however its easier to blame the one they dislike the most…

Until recently as far as I am aware, JT was the selector. Perhaps the JAC farce is one of the reasons O'Neill is now part of the selection process.

May well be

 

[Pawsandclaws]

We've pulled a young man from the Under 20s and put him in the front row and he has been excellent. This is one of the hardest positions on the field! JAC was not up against a first grade winger. He was up against a former inside back who had played in the ESL not the NRL!

 

[TrueTiger]

We've pulled a young man from the Under 20s and put him in the front row and he has been excellent. This is one of the hardest positions on the field! JAC was not up against a first grade winger. He was up against a former inside back who had played in the ESL not the NRL!

Understand what your saying Paws,however Rankin was being groomed for the goalkicking role,do we know if JAC can goal kick,Moses has a groin strain,Rankin is his backup…I don't see anyone else for the job..that's why he is being played out of position,but its the only way he can be in the FG side ATM...

 

[innsaneink]

Yawn

 

[Tim Sheens]

Lets delete this topic and forget about this awful news.

The sooner its over and done with the better.
This club leaders don't have much of a brain in retaining potential superstars

Hang on, they do, Brooks and Moses ..
Look at how they are blossoming at the moment

They will sign and re-sign all 2nd string footballers and let the ones with great FG potential slip through

Sorry LtWT, but this post shows an unbalanced view also displayed by some complaining in this thread.

A lot of these posts are from the members that like you are pointing out their percieved Broses contract problems, here or in other threads.. Those two were hottest properties at the time, with half or more opposition clubs weighing in with relative offers for cubs that were still eligible for another year or two in NYC. Yet the current admin and coach are being derided over negotiations with a then untried developing player that seemingly attracted only our offer upon completion of his NYC time.

 

[southerntiger]

The funny thing for all the criticism of JT no one is or was saying that JAC was a standout in ISP. Why? Because he wasn't. Sure he scored a few tries and showed some pace but he wasn't dominating week in and week out like Koro was when he was playing State Cup.

There were no rave reviews or demands that he must be selected. Most who watched ISP said he still had a way to go before being ready for first grade and most thought that if he got a couple of games this year, that would a good outcome for the kid.

Now people are carrying on like the club held him back from 3 years. Some of these people are posters I ordinarily respect.

I JAC left us because he got a better offer, so be it. I have also seen a lot of young players come into firsts and look sensational. Other clubs then identify their weaknesses, and these kids never get seen again. Im not saying JAC will be like that but it is not certain yet whether he will have a long first grade career but people are carrying on like we might lose Andrew Johns reborn.

 

[tigerman80]

Another potential gun we have lost.If only we played him first grade earlier and locked him up when no one else knew about him. He is the only member of our backline that looks to have decent pace ( Besides Tedesco), and now we have lost him. Hopefully im wrong here and tigers have a plan to replace him with someone even better because Nofa and Rankin arent the answers.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Not official

 

[Pawsandclaws]

The funny thing for all the criticism of JT no one is or was saying that JAC was a standout in ISP. Why? Because he wasn't. Sure he scored a few tries and showed some pace but he wasn't dominating week in and week out like Koro was when he was playing State Cup.

There were no rave reviews or demands that he must be selected. Most who watched ISP said he still had a way to go before being ready for first grade and most thought that if he got a couple of games this year, that would a good outcome for the kid.

Now people are carrying on like the club held him back from 3 years. Some of these people are posters I ordinarily respect.

I JAC left us because he got a better offer, so be it. I have also seen a lot of young players come into firsts and look sensational. Other clubs then identify their weaknesses, and these kids never get seen again. Im not saying JAC will be like that but it is not certain yet whether he will have a long first grade career but people are carrying on like we might lose Andrew Johns reborn.

So why is it that Bellamy can see enough in JAC to offer him a modest contract with a view to filling the vacancy left by Koro's departure?

Why is it that an inside back was selected on the wing even though his weaknesses were apparent from his first game?