AGENDA 21

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It wasn't the govt that gave away our industries it was big business that wanted to put everything offshore and pay slave wages to third world workers instead of maintaining jobs in Australia. It still continues with Telcos and banks having call centres in Asia and India. You can blame BHP for Newcastle losing all of its steel industry. Typical right wing crap to blame everyone bar their big business donors. Farmers plough produce back in to the ground because they are too scared to sell it for fear of being blacklisted by the big food chains like Woolworths and Coles. It wasn't third world countries that destroyed local butchers, bakeries, bottle shops, greengrocers petrol stations. The Murray Darling is completely stuffed from dirty deals between politicians and cotton farmers to divert the majority of water from getting down river. The mess this country is in is solely because of the greed of big business and politicians feathering the nests of their mates.

I think i disagree with every single point youve made. These things are much more systemic than you have outlined here.

Big business is owned by the elite, the elite control government, government create policy to suit their agenda, agenda is driven by governments most senior and powerful people, these people have all been placed in this position by big business and the elite.

I would have thought that was a given in everything i have said - of course govts are only puppets to multi national and big business - my response was to Demps " the russians are coming " theory in that its a furphy and rather we are being destroyed from within by big business and govt puppets.

However having said that i do accept that China is making huge inroads in to owning most of SE Asia by buying up every inch of valuable land and forcing locals out. Places like Sihanoukville in Cambodia is the perfect example of this.
 
The UN Policy is one thing, the fact that nations votes on the council can be bought is far more disturbing.
 
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It wasn't the govt that gave away our industries it was big business that wanted to put everything offshore and pay slave wages to third world workers instead of maintaining jobs in Australia. It still continues with Telcos and banks having call centres in Asia and India. You can blame BHP for Newcastle losing all of its steel industry. Typical right wing crap to blame everyone bar their big business donors. Farmers plough produce back in to the ground because they are too scared to sell it for fear of being blacklisted by the big food chains like Woolworths and Coles. It wasn't third world countries that destroyed local butchers, bakeries, bottle shops, greengrocers petrol stations. The Murray Darling is completely stuffed from dirty deals between politicians and cotton farmers to divert the majority of water from getting down river. The mess this country is in is solely because of the greed of big business and politicians feathering the nests of their mates.

But the government signed off on the Lima declaration leading to 95% of industry going O/S. Facts.

Moving forward the plans for agenda 21 in 2030 are going to negatively impact Australia further.

Australia cannot equip with weapons to protect its self as all industry is over seas and we do not have the capability to do so. Australia is a sitting duck.

The ball is already rolling…

The government has sold Australia off and continues to drive it into the ground.

My accountant has lived and worked 6 months here, and 6 mths in China for years now .
Awhile back we were talking about the amount of land, and businesses that the Chinese were buying up, as well as their beligerence in the Pacific Region.
He was saying that a few years back , some of the govt department people, that he’s in contact over there , were openly joking that China would, never have to take over Australia with military action, because it was so easy to just buy it piece by pierce,
It’s been happening for quite a while now and the farming/ meat processing /sales and transporting have almost been taken over by Chinese

The whole process from the farm to China is what they want and are getting.
It’s similar in other industries as well and is getting more prevalent.
Why hasn’t the Govt. Stopped the sale of prime farm land here?
I heard from one of the Qld Nationals , that they only own a small percentage of farm land. ( around 5%)

The problem is that they only want to buy Prime Farming land,
Which is less than 20 % of our total farming land, sounds good doesn’t it.?

But in reality they actually now own 5% approx. of the PRIME farming land ,which is what matters,
And the Pollies are letting them do it.
 
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It wasn't the govt that gave away our industries it was big business that wanted to put everything offshore and pay slave wages to third world workers instead of maintaining jobs in Australia. It still continues with Telcos and banks having call centres in Asia and India. You can blame BHP for Newcastle losing all of its steel industry. Typical right wing crap to blame everyone bar their big business donors. Farmers plough produce back in to the ground because they are too scared to sell it for fear of being blacklisted by the big food chains like Woolworths and Coles. It wasn't third world countries that destroyed local butchers, bakeries, bottle shops, greengrocers petrol stations. The Murray Darling is completely stuffed from dirty deals between politicians and cotton farmers to divert the majority of water from getting down river. The mess this country is in is solely because of the greed of big business and politicians feathering the nests of their mates.

But the government signed off on the Lima declaration leading to 95% of industry going O/S. Facts.

Moving forward the plans for agenda 21 in 2030 are going to negatively impact Australia further.

Australia cannot equip with weapons to protect its self as all industry is over seas and we do not have the capability to do so. Australia is a sitting duck.

The ball is already rolling…

The government has sold Australia off and continues to drive it into the ground.

My accountant has lived and worked 6 months here, and 6 mths in China for years now .
Awhile back we were talking about the amount of land, and businesses that the Chinese were buying up, as well as their beligerence in the Pacific Region.
He was saying that a few years back , some of the govt department people, that he’s in contact over there , were openly joking that China would, never have to take over Australia with military action, because it was so easy to just buy it piece by pierce,
It’s been happening for quite a while now and the farming/ meat processing /sales and transporting have almost been taken over by Chinese

The whole process from the farm to China is what they want and are getting.
It’s similar in other industries as well and is getting more prevalent.
Why hasn’t the Govt. Stopped the sale of prime farm land here?
I heard from one of the Qld Nationals , that they only own a small percentage of farm land. ( around 5%)

The problem is that they only want to buy Prime Farming land,
Which is less than 20 % of our total farming land, sounds good doesn’t it.?

But in reality they actually now own 5% approx. of the PRIME farming land ,which is what matters,
And the Pollies are letting them do it.

Don't they also own the Port in Darwin as well?
 
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It wasn't the govt that gave away our industries it was big business that wanted to put everything offshore and pay slave wages to third world workers instead of maintaining jobs in Australia. It still continues with Telcos and banks having call centres in Asia and India. You can blame BHP for Newcastle losing all of its steel industry. Typical right wing crap to blame everyone bar their big business donors. Farmers plough produce back in to the ground because they are too scared to sell it for fear of being blacklisted by the big food chains like Woolworths and Coles. It wasn't third world countries that destroyed local butchers, bakeries, bottle shops, greengrocers petrol stations. The Murray Darling is completely stuffed from dirty deals between politicians and cotton farmers to divert the majority of water from getting down river. The mess this country is in is solely because of the greed of big business and politicians feathering the nests of their mates.

But the government signed off on the Lima declaration leading to 95% of industry going O/S. Facts.

Moving forward the plans for agenda 21 in 2030 are going to negatively impact Australia further.

Australia cannot equip with weapons to protect its self as all industry is over seas and we do not have the capability to do so. Australia is a sitting duck.

The ball is already rolling…

The government has sold Australia off and continues to drive it into the ground.

My accountant has lived and worked 6 months here, and 6 mths in China for years now .
Awhile back we were talking about the amount of land, and businesses that the Chinese were buying up, as well as their beligerence in the Pacific Region.
He was saying that a few years back , some of the govt department people, that he’s in contact over there , were openly joking that China would, never have to take over Australia with military action, because it was so easy to just buy it piece by pierce,
It’s been happening for quite a while now and the farming/ meat processing /sales and transporting have almost been taken over by Chinese

The whole process from the farm to China is what they want and are getting.
It’s similar in other industries as well and is getting more prevalent.
Why hasn’t the Govt. Stopped the sale of prime farm land here?
I heard from one of the Qld Nationals , that they only own a small percentage of farm land. ( around 5%)

The problem is that they only want to buy Prime Farming land,
Which is less than 20 % of our total farming land, sounds good doesn’t it.?

But in reality they actually now own 5% approx. of the PRIME farming land ,which is what matters,
And the Pollies are letting them do it.

Harsh eh?
The government is selling Australia off to the highest bidder, constantly.

It's all a part of the UN's bigger goal though which is an idea from the Rothschild family who control the biggest bank in the world to decrease population and have a monopoly on the world.
 
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It wasn't the govt that gave away our industries it was big business that wanted to put everything offshore and pay slave wages to third world workers instead of maintaining jobs in Australia. It still continues with Telcos and banks having call centres in Asia and India. You can blame BHP for Newcastle losing all of its steel industry. Typical right wing crap to blame everyone bar their big business donors. Farmers plough produce back in to the ground because they are too scared to sell it for fear of being blacklisted by the big food chains like Woolworths and Coles. It wasn't third world countries that destroyed local butchers, bakeries, bottle shops, greengrocers petrol stations. The Murray Darling is completely stuffed from dirty deals between politicians and cotton farmers to divert the majority of water from getting down river. The mess this country is in is solely because of the greed of big business and politicians feathering the nests of their mates.

But the government signed off on the Lima declaration leading to 95% of industry going O/S. Facts.

Moving forward the plans for agenda 21 in 2030 are going to negatively impact Australia further.

Australia cannot equip with weapons to protect its self as all industry is over seas and we do not have the capability to do so. Australia is a sitting duck.

The ball is already rolling…

The government has sold Australia off and continues to drive it into the ground.

My accountant has lived and worked 6 months here, and 6 mths in China for years now .
Awhile back we were talking about the amount of land, and businesses that the Chinese were buying up, as well as their beligerence in the Pacific Region.
He was saying that a few years back , some of the govt department people, that he’s in contact over there , were openly joking that China would, never have to take over Australia with military action, because it was so easy to just buy it piece by pierce,
It’s been happening for quite a while now and the farming/ meat processing /sales and transporting have almost been taken over by Chinese

The whole process from the farm to China is what they want and are getting.
It’s similar in other industries as well and is getting more prevalent.
Why hasn’t the Govt. Stopped the sale of prime farm land here?
I heard from one of the Qld Nationals , that they only own a small percentage of farm land. ( around 5%)

The problem is that they only want to buy Prime Farming land,
Which is less than 20 % of our total farming land, sounds good doesn’t it.?

But in reality they actually now own 5% approx. of the PRIME farming land ,which is what matters,
And the Pollies are letting them do it.

Harsh eh?
The government is selling Australia off to the highest bidder, constantly.

It's all a part of the UN's bigger goal though which is an idea from the Rothschild family who control the biggest bank in the world to decrease population and have a monopoly on the world.

I get it, and China is their puppet?
 
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It wasn't the govt that gave away our industries it was big business that wanted to put everything offshore and pay slave wages to third world workers instead of maintaining jobs in Australia. It still continues with Telcos and banks having call centres in Asia and India. You can blame BHP for Newcastle losing all of its steel industry. Typical right wing crap to blame everyone bar their big business donors. Farmers plough produce back in to the ground because they are too scared to sell it for fear of being blacklisted by the big food chains like Woolworths and Coles. It wasn't third world countries that destroyed local butchers, bakeries, bottle shops, greengrocers petrol stations. The Murray Darling is completely stuffed from dirty deals between politicians and cotton farmers to divert the majority of water from getting down river. The mess this country is in is solely because of the greed of big business and politicians feathering the nests of their mates.

I think i disagree with every single point youve made. These things are much more systemic than you have outlined here.

Big business is owned by the elite, the elite control government, government create policy to suit their agenda, agenda is driven by governments most senior and powerful people, these people have all been placed in this position by big business and the elite.

I would have thought that was a given in everything i have said - of course govts are only puppets to multi national and big business - my response was to Demps " the russians are coming " theory in that its a furphy and rather we are being destroyed from within by big business and govt puppets.

However having said that i do accept that China is making huge inroads in to owning most of SE Asia by buying up every inch of valuable land and forcing locals out. Places like Sihanoukville in Cambodia is the perfect example of this.

Isn't their new trick to loan money to countries that will never be able to pay it back so they end up in hock and will allow them to build military presence in those areas as form of reparation?
 
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I think i disagree with every single point youve made. These things are much more systemic than you have outlined here.

Big business is owned by the elite, the elite control government, government create policy to suit their agenda, agenda is driven by governments most senior and powerful people, these people have all been placed in this position by big business and the elite.

I would have thought that was a given in everything i have said - of course govts are only puppets to multi national and big business - my response was to Demps " the russians are coming " theory in that its a furphy and rather we are being destroyed from within by big business and govt puppets.

However having said that i do accept that China is making huge inroads in to owning most of SE Asia by buying up every inch of valuable land and forcing locals out. Places like Sihanoukville in Cambodia is the perfect example of this.

Isn't their new trick to loan money to countries that will never be able to pay it back so they end up in hock and will allow them to build military presence in those areas as form of reparation?

Apparently with the UN's cooperation.
 
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But the government signed off on the Lima declaration leading to 95% of industry going O/S. Facts.

Moving forward the plans for agenda 21 in 2030 are going to negatively impact Australia further.

Australia cannot equip with weapons to protect its self as all industry is over seas and we do not have the capability to do so. Australia is a sitting duck.

The ball is already rolling…

The government has sold Australia off and continues to drive it into the ground.

My accountant has lived and worked 6 months here, and 6 mths in China for years now .
Awhile back we were talking about the amount of land, and businesses that the Chinese were buying up, as well as their beligerence in the Pacific Region.
He was saying that a few years back , some of the govt department people, that he’s in contact over there , were openly joking that China would, never have to take over Australia with military action, because it was so easy to just buy it piece by pierce,
It’s been happening for quite a while now and the farming/ meat processing /sales and transporting have almost been taken over by Chinese

The whole process from the farm to China is what they want and are getting.
It’s similar in other industries as well and is getting more prevalent.
Why hasn’t the Govt. Stopped the sale of prime farm land here?
I heard from one of the Qld Nationals , that they only own a small percentage of farm land. ( around 5%)

The problem is that they only want to buy Prime Farming land,
Which is less than 20 % of our total farming land, sounds good doesn’t it.?

But in reality they actually now own 5% approx. of the PRIME farming land ,which is what matters,
And the Pollies are letting them do it.

Harsh eh?
The government is selling Australia off to the highest bidder, constantly.

It's all a part of the UN's bigger goal though which is an idea from the Rothschild family who control the biggest bank in the world to decrease population and have a monopoly on the world.

I get it, and China is their puppet?

China is a powerhouse country.
I don't think this thread is for you buddy.
You strike me as some one with limited understanding of what's going on in the world.
 
China will only be a powerhouse as long as they can suppress the wages and standard of living of their people.

When the next source of cheap labour is identified, China will become less competitive.
 
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My accountant has lived and worked 6 months here, and 6 mths in China for years now .
Awhile back we were talking about the amount of land, and businesses that the Chinese were buying up, as well as their beligerence in the Pacific Region.
He was saying that a few years back , some of the govt department people, that he’s in contact over there , were openly joking that China would, never have to take over Australia with military action, because it was so easy to just buy it piece by pierce,
It’s been happening for quite a while now and the farming/ meat processing /sales and transporting have almost been taken over by Chinese

The whole process from the farm to China is what they want and are getting.
It’s similar in other industries as well and is getting more prevalent.
Why hasn’t the Govt. Stopped the sale of prime farm land here?
I heard from one of the Qld Nationals , that they only own a small percentage of farm land. ( around 5%)

The problem is that they only want to buy Prime Farming land,
Which is less than 20 % of our total farming land, sounds good doesn’t it.?

But in reality they actually now own 5% approx. of the PRIME farming land ,which is what matters,
And the Pollies are letting them do it.

Harsh eh?
The government is selling Australia off to the highest bidder, constantly.

It's all a part of the UN's bigger goal though which is an idea from the Rothschild family who control the biggest bank in the world to decrease population and have a monopoly on the world.

I get it, and China is their puppet?

China is a powerhouse country.
I don't think this thread is for you buddy.
You strike me as some one with limited understanding of what's going on in the world.

Yes of course. I am here for you to educate me, you're so knowledgeable about world affairs. Back to the discussion; So I take it from your 'Powerhouse' comment that China is not towing the UN 'Rothschild' line?
 
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Harsh eh?
The government is selling Australia off to the highest bidder, constantly.

It's all a part of the UN's bigger goal though which is an idea from the Rothschild family who control the biggest bank in the world to decrease population and have a monopoly on the world.

I get it, and China is their puppet?

China is a powerhouse country.
I don't think this thread is for you buddy.
You strike me as some one with limited understanding of what's going on in the world.

Yes of course. I am here for you to educate me, you're so knowledgeable about world affairs. Back to the discussion; So I take it from your 'Powerhouse' comment that China is not towing the UN 'Rothschild' line?

China has agreed to agenda 21.
Agenda 21 is being pushed as a way for the world to be sustainable with no poverty and it reads well on paper.. But it will prove to be detrimental to the Australian way.
 
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I get it, and China is their puppet?

China is a powerhouse country.
I don't think this thread is for you buddy.
You strike me as some one with limited understanding of what's going on in the world.

Yes of course. I am here for you to educate me, you're so knowledgeable about world affairs. Back to the discussion; So I take it from your 'Powerhouse' comment that China is not towing the UN 'Rothschild' line?

China has agreed to agenda 21.
Agenda 21 is being pushed as a way for the world to be sustainable with no poverty and it reads well on paper.. But it will prove to be detrimental to the Australian way.

Has the USA also agreed to agenda 21?
 

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