Aloiai

[tony soprano]

Josh continuing to laugh about the situation on Instagram. Classy bloke

What now?

 

[Speed2burn]

Josh continuing to laugh about the situation on Instagram. Classy bloke

I read that part where he said there’s always two sides to the story, not sure about anything else yet

 

[italian_stallion]

He said on Instagram

“I ask that you make judgements on my character and not just anything you read, judgements on my track record and my service and not what other people are saying”

 

[happy_tiger]

What page are all these comments fro Aloiai everyone is talking about

Which one's are you referring to.."I'll never wear the Tigers Jersey again" or "I'll make sure it's a super fast track"

1st one

Don't worry ...found it page 55 lol ...I actually stopped checking a few quotes further up when someone had questioned Tiga4eva ..he's been here longer than me lol

 

[Speed2burn]

He said on Instagram

“I ask that you make judgements on my character and not just anything you read, judgements on my track record and my service and not what other people are saying”

I’m not doubting he’s a quality bloke, I reckon he still is, just been poorly advised by a greedy player manager that has rubbed off on him.

 

[happy_tiger]

So he has allegedly said it ...didn't come from the horses mouth as such or off a twitter or instagram quote

So my question would be this ...if it's true why wouldn't the senior WT's official let his name be attached ...that would be a strong voice from the club

 

[Nelson]

So he has allegedly said it ...didn't come from the horses mouth as such or off a twitter or instagram quote

So my question would be this ...if it's true why wouldn't the senior WT's official let his name be attached ...that would be a strong voice from the club

They have - it was a text message he sent to Justin Pascoe. That has been reported in a number of articles.

 

[the_third]

He said on Instagram

“I ask that you make judgements on my character and not just anything you read, judgements on my track record and my service and not what other people are saying”

His lawnmower post says a lot about his character

 

[voice_of_reason]

He said on Instagram
“I ask that you make judgements on my character and not just anything you read, judgements on my track record and my service and not what other people are saying”

His perceived character nose-dived the moment he 'demanded' a release and said he'd 'never wear the jersey again'. The childish meme was the icing on the cake.

Track record and service are easily trumped by flawed character and poor loyalty.

 

[Tore85]

I just responded to a mate of mine who supports Manly saying "he will be good for you guys. He is obviously a sook. He and Jake can hold hands and sulk every time you lose a game. And he is used to not making the 8 like you guys cant without Tommy T." Hehehe he was trying to gee me up.

 

[twentyforty]

I can't see this ending well for all parties. The club, via Lee, shouldn't be shooting it's mouth off publicly but privately definitely play hard ball. Let JA come off looking like a brat which is hurting his brand.
A trade with Paseka would be a nice outcome


I like the way Following the LM circus, Madge publicly stated WT will not be paying overs for anyone! I like the stance Lee is taking publicly on this Aloiai issue, just hope he doesn’t allow it to go further, which I’m sure he won’t. This is all about the culture and WT image that we all wanted changed. ***What does confuse me is why Pascoe isn’t the one leading this change in direction?*** Talking to a mate recently, he had all sorts of issues. His doc advised him to stop drinking coffee and it solved all his problems.

Because Lee has a higher profile and carries more weight than Pascoe does by nature of the fact that he sponsors and fetes such a wide spread of the NRL landscape. He is widely liked and respected.

I agree, Lee has a higher profile and respect etc.
my point is, is this one of those occasions when WT need the chair to deliver such a message? Don’t misunderstand me, I love The message and Lee’s brutal delivery in defence of the club’s integrity but the CEO could have done that, surely? The more Lee does this the lower his standing. If this turns into a dogfight you’ll see what I mean.
Anyhoo, it feels good to support a club which refuses to get pushed around by others for their own advantage.

 

[trentrunciman]

His handle on the Gram: https://www.instagram.com/joshaloiai/?hl=en


 

[Cairnstigers]

Screw him - i know he will be toxic at the club but I rather give a firm message, keep him in reserves all year. I feel its more a battle for future -

I'd even prefer if we were the bigger man and chose him in firsts if he shows he's committed.

Well yeah that too. But don't want to let this exit strategy work, at all costs. Fear it will be on going whenever our other players raise a level in skill

A contract is a contract
Break it and you sit out the remainder or your contract without pay

Nrl needs to intervene and set the standards in cases like this

No jumping ship unless it is 100% agreeable to both parties
Then we wouldn't have the media circus we find ourselves in yet again

 

[Hangonaminute]

So now we've got a kebab with no Garlic Mayo.
He stunk anyway 🤭

 

[FinestTigers]

Theres a lot mixed emotions and thaughts about this topic,
You cannot compare Jac’s and Aloiai’s contract negotiations.
Question, would JAC have ever dared to say the words that Aloiai said? I would never wear the the Tigers jersey again No way.
Lets all forget about players to be loyal to their clubs when greedy player managers takeover their minds, But players must never forget to show Respect for their club,
For too long far to many players have disrespected this club because this club always seemed an easy target.
But Players and ex players should Forget about the Tigers as being easy targets The mighty Tigers will now be highly respected and will demand it

 

[Guest]

‘He needs to change’: Manly legend’s Hasler warning to Tigers star

November 18, 2020 10:22am
by ANDREW JACKSON
Source: FOX SPORTS

Another NRL off-season is upon us, albeit with an Origin decider still to come on Wednesday night.
But not much else has changed with another player agitating for an early release.

It is the Wests Tigers once again who have been dragged into a contract dispute after Ryan Matterson fought for an early release last year to join the Parramatta Eels.

Matterson won out in that case but a year later, it seems like players and their agents still have all the power and leverage.

The Tigers are reportedly standing firm on their insistence that they will no longer be a “doormat”, cancelling a meeting with Josh Aloiai after it emerged on Tuesday that he was pushing for a release.

Manly Sea Eagles CEO Stephen Humphreys said to NRL.comthat the club is only currently looking at Aloiai once his contract runs out at the end of 2021.

But the understanding is that if he can secure an early release he will more than happily move on and his social media post mocking the club’s chairman indicates as much.

If Aloiai does win out he will bolster a Manly pack in dire need of some reinforcements up front following the exit of Addin Fonua-Blake.

Sea Eagles legend Mark Carroll has warned Aloiai though that if he does not make a key change he may not last very long under Des Hasler.

“With an attitude like that I wonder,” he told Fox Sports News.

“If you don’t want to play for the club, why keep him? Why pay him? Get rid of him. He doesn’t want to play for the colours, that being the Wests Tigers.

“For him to go to Manly, he’d be a good fit given Fonua-Blake has gone over to the Warriors but he needs to change it [his attitude] before Des Hasler gets his hands on him.”

For the time being though the Tigers have maintained Aloiai must report for training on November 30 and The Daily Telegraph’s Dean Ritchie has called on the club to stick solid with that stance.

He believes this could be a line-in-the-sand moment for the game.

“I hope the Tigers stick solid here,” he said on Sky Sports’ Big Sports Breakfast.

“I really hope they say: ‘You know what, for the sake of every rugby league club, let’s draw a line in the sand and say no, just because you’ve got a better offer isn’t good enough in my eyes to say OK you can leave our club in the lurch, in the off-season, to get more coin.’

“The contract Manly offered was for 2022-23 on the stipulation that he would prefer if he could come in 2021. It’s not Manly’s fault, they’re doing the best by their club and supporters.

“But I hope they say: ‘You’re not going it is as simple as that’. The problem is the players have the upper-hand. If they don’t want to play, they go back and play reserve grade and suddenly you have $500,000 of your cap running around in Canterbury Cup and that is where the players win in the end.

“If they agitate enough, the clubs say just go. I hope they draw a line in the sand but generally players win out.”

 

[facepalmer]

I actually think we've been victimised by our own good nature a lot.

Never had a blip when it comes to PEDs, seem to get physically overmatched year in year out.
Never had a serious salary cap issue.

Victimised by Cleary, Farah, Marshall, Matterson, Woods, Moses, Tedesco, Issac Moses and now Aloiai.

Everything I see from our club has been that we just do what's right. We did everything with JAC by the books and Melbourne even thanked us for it. Got nothing out of it except more embarrassed by the miss. Let Matterson go because he wasn't "happy" and probably moreso so he wouldn't poison the playing group, got nothing for it and seems to have just made other players want to do it.

Really ticks me off that we have this reputation all because we've just done the "right" thing.

Apologies Aloiai but I'm with Lee. Play for the Tigers and do your best or enjoy reggies.

 

[JD Tiger]

‘He needs to change’: Manly legend’s Hasler warning to Tigers star

November 18, 2020 10:22am
by ANDREW JACKSON
Source: FOX SPORTS

Another NRL off-season is upon us, albeit with an Origin decider still to come on Wednesday night.
But not much else has changed with another player agitating for an early release.

It is the Wests Tigers once again who have been dragged into a contract dispute after Ryan Matterson fought for an early release last year to join the Parramatta Eels.

Matterson won out in that case but a year later, it seems like players and their agents still have all the power and leverage.

The Tigers are reportedly standing firm on their insistence that they will no longer be a “doormat”, cancelling a meeting with Josh Aloiai after it emerged on Tuesday that he was pushing for a release.

Manly Sea Eagles CEO Stephen Humphreys said to NRL.comthat the club is only currently looking at Aloiai once his contract runs out at the end of 2021.

But the understanding is that if he can secure an early release he will more than happily move on and his social media post mocking the club’s chairman indicates as much.

If Aloiai does win out he will bolster a Manly pack in dire need of some reinforcements up front following the exit of Addin Fonua-Blake.

Sea Eagles legend Mark Carroll has warned Aloiai though that if he does not make a key change he may not last very long under Des Hasler.

“With an attitude like that I wonder,” he told Fox Sports News.

“If you don’t want to play for the club, why keep him? Why pay him? Get rid of him. He doesn’t want to play for the colours, that being the Wests Tigers.

“For him to go to Manly, he’d be a good fit given Fonua-Blake has gone over to the Warriors but he needs to change it [his attitude] before Des Hasler gets his hands on him.”

For the time being though the Tigers have maintained Aloiai must report for training on November 30 and The Daily Telegraph’s Dean Ritchie has called on the club to stick solid with that stance.

He believes this could be a line-in-the-sand moment for the game.

“I hope the Tigers stick solid here,” he said on Sky Sports’ Big Sports Breakfast.

“I really hope they say: ‘You know what, for the sake of every rugby league club, let’s draw a line in the sand and say no, just because you’ve got a better offer isn’t good enough in my eyes to say OK you can leave our club in the lurch, in the off-season, to get more coin.’

“**The contract Manly offered was for 2022-23 on the stipulation that he would prefer if he could come in 2021. It’s not Manly’s fault, they’re doing the best by their club and supporters**.

“But I hope they say: ‘You’re not going it is as simple as that’. The problem is the players have the upper-hand. If they don’t want to play, they go back and play reserve grade and suddenly you have $500,000 of your cap running around in Canterbury Cup and that is where the players win in the end.

“If they agitate enough, the clubs say just go. I hope they draw a line in the sand but generally players win out.”

Another reference to Manly stipulating if they can get him early they will take him. Really scummy of them, Eel-like behaviour.

What's with the rubbish saying 'it's not Manly's fault'...? Yes it is! How is it not their fault? They are encouraging him to break his contract. (If that stipulation is real.) Pathetic.

 

[BalmainJnr]

Looks like it suits him.

 

[weststigerman]

Lets also put the manager in the spotlight too- more than a coincidence he manages Funoa-Blake and secures his early release to Manly and then gets Aloiai a 2022-23 deal at Manly apparently contingent on him getting early 21 release from WT. Then Aloiai kicks up stink demanding early release- who has put him up to it? Yes let the NRL investigate- if player manager deregister, if Manly penalise big way.

No problems with requesting release and clubs negotiating, BIG problem with demanding and ultimatum.

It's also interesting how quickly AFB was released. I think it was within a week of asking for a release he'd signed with Warriors.

Were they negotiating with Aloiai at the same time and is that why they were willing to release him so quickly?