Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi

[guyofthetiger]

With no definable culture, what is Australian is always going to be open to interpretation, and therefore open to certain groups prescribing their own self-image.

It seems those who need to prescribe how others should be, tend to need others to mirror themselves to alleviate their insecurities. Hence, Mr Jones, well known for struggling to face his homosexuality.

Hence, also, the Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi chant being little more than a hollow, alcohol fuelled act of belligerence, for the most part.

Team Australia is just another cheap version of right wing (Bush/Reagan) politics, which relies on creating enemies to keep the nation focused outward, while the local landscape is manipulated to favour their corporate backers.

As in the past, it will be the people who pay for politicians playing such games, when they get sent to the frontline, or killed in terrorist attacks.

Perhaps if the wealthy West had have done more to acknowledge the atrocities of colonial exploits, and regulated corporate imperialism, those enemies who have become a self-fulfilling prophecy might be a little less determined to annihilate us (religious fanaticism aside).

And instead we could be spending more of our time focused inwards, moulding an Australian culture, relying less on cliches and more on substance, protecting our precious gifts: beautiful beaches, forests, waterways, farming land, desert landscapes, tens of thousands of years of Aboriginal wisdom, a generous and compassionate multicultural society, an intelligent, sustainability-minded corporate culture able to engage in new technologies and the new economies they create, willing to protect our children from the devastation of climate change etc etc

If that's what Oi Oi Oi had come to represent, I'd be happy to belt it out.

But alas, this Treehugger will continue to cringe every time I hear it, and will be boycotting Australia Day until we acknowledge how offensive it is to Aboriginal people, and create an alternative day for celebrating our nation.

That man you speak of so negatively on the right of politics Reagan, was responsible for ending communism and bringing down the Berlin wall.

2 things that seamt completely impossible, throw in the Iran hostage situation and the guys a complete genius.You do speak of truths in regards to colonial exploits you do raise a good point I will agree but its a sad reality that who ever was the colonial power at the time was guilty of such atrocities whether it be western owned or eastern owned.And its been proven time and time again that the West treats its captives better than any other civilization.

This is an inconvenient truth for someone like you on the extreme left of politics that does his best to point out every little thing that is wrong with Australia.Despite the fact that Australia is a pure breed champion and the countries that plan to wipe it off the planet but are nothing but a complete mange filled mongrel.

But keep on knocking the pure breed and boycott Australia Day pal Im sure if it wasnt the Aborigines you would find some other reason to boycott Australia Day.The whole aboriginal thing for you is just a cop out its boycotting anything pro Australian that motivates you.You speak of our lovely deserts and our rainforests,Beautiful beaches etc etc well the only reason we enjoy them today is because the two things you cringe about most 1.WAR and The heroic deeds of "TEAM AUSTRALIA" and 2.The fact that Australia unlike 80% of the rest of the world is not a corruptible dog box so that we have kept our beautiful forests,waterways etc as they are and not suffered "TOO much" thru complete mismanagement.
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You speak of a generous and compassionate multicultural society,well they are virtues that "TEAM AUSTRALIA" has given them and the large percentage repay our faith but sadly not all.You know its a bloody long way from the middle east to Australia for a refugee and despite the 75 countries in between saying "get lost we aint havin ya"(including all their islamic brothers….HMMMMMM)you still seem to have the greatest problem with that one "racist" country that says yes will have you......you know that place you speak so negatively of "TEAM AUSTRALIA".

I hope you do realise that as you crap on Australia at every given chance there is an opposition just over the hill hoping to destroy every little thing that you and I cherish and as this cancer continues to grow at a phenomenal rate you just keep having a crack at the one thing that continues to fight it........"TEAM AUSTRALIA''.As the thread title does read AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI.

You represent Team Australia well Jerry.
You keep writing like that Murdoch will have you editing The Australian in no time.

We will, however, have to agree to disagree.

 

[Furious1]

There is a lot of ungrateful people in this country.

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[grrrrrrrrrr]

Reading this thread is making my head hurt !!

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[GNR4LIFE]

Haven't looked at this thread for a while, there's been a few fun and games though i see.

My thoughts, i tend to agree with what Simon was saying earlier. As i said in another thread, i don't subscribe to national pride, as i believe pride is something you feel when you achieve something, not just cos you lucked into being conceived and born in that particular country. Truth is you would feel just the same if you were born elsewhere, i find it very similar to what God you worship and what religion you just lucked into being born into. Nothing wrong with being thankful or glad to be the nationality you are, but proud is incorrect as nobody achieves being Australian.

My life doesn't revolve around patriotism, so if there's something that makes me cringe i.e. the term ''unaustralian'' or Waltzing Matilda then that's the way it is, i don't see why i should find these things appealing just because its ''the Australian way''. Patriotism doesn't appeal to me at all. I love where i live, don't get me wrong, but that's where it ends for me. That makes me happy. I don't believe in doing certain things or believing in certain things just cos of your nationality, that's one step away from doing something just because of your religion. I have a good life regardless, and interests and people in my life that i love and that's all that matters to me.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

Jerry, do you realise that Reagan was originally a Democrat? Not surprised he had left wing leanings.

When he first started out 20 years before he took the oval office.He jumped ship cause he didnt like the direction the left were heading.All of his great achievements were as the most republican of republicans.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

Reagan was a dill, the good thing is that he knew it. He was merely a figurehead for his conservative buddies.

The wall came down for two reasons, money and power, and was orchestrated to give those with the aforementioned more of the same. Nothing to do with the good of the people.

The guy stops Communism,the cold war,the berlin Wall,Launched a massive war on drugs which cleaned up major cities like LA and NY and you call him a dill and a stooge.If it wasnt for him wed have North Koreas and East Germanys all around the world.But dont let FACTS get in the way of your obvious blind hatred to the right of politics.Me Im a swing voter who votes whats best for my country.

 

[happy_tiger]

Didn't we choose not to be a republic in '00 or was that referendum earlier?

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For mine, no, as a staunch monarchist PM drove the no barrow, with the only choice being a parliamentary appointed head of state.

It should have been done over a few elections, with the first question being simple; Should Australia become a Republic? Yes/No. The structure is a seperate issue and can be chosen next time around.

Referendums seldom get up, mainly because of the approach and wording.

You need a definitive to make a change to the constitution so I honestly agree with the approach.

I'm a pro Republic but just look at the Gaga over the royal couple and their babies- majority of Australia seems to like that British connection and maybe that's what shows in the polls?

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Id like to bang Pippa .

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She's not that good in the sack Hobbo :wink:

 

[Flippedy]

With no definable culture, what is Australian is always going to be open to interpretation, and therefore open to certain groups prescribing their own self-image.

It seems those who need to prescribe how others should be, tend to need others to mirror themselves to alleviate their insecurities. Hence, Mr Jones, well known for struggling to face his homosexuality.

Hence, also, the Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi chant being little more than a hollow, alcohol fuelled act of belligerence, for the most part.

Team Australia is just another cheap version of right wing (Bush/Reagan) politics, which relies on creating enemies to keep the nation focused outward, while the local landscape is manipulated to favour their corporate backers.

As in the past, it will be the people who pay for politicians playing such games, when they get sent to the frontline, or killed in terrorist attacks.

Perhaps if the wealthy West had have done more to acknowledge the atrocities of colonial exploits, and regulated corporate imperialism, those enemies who have become a self-fulfilling prophecy might be a little less determined to annihilate us (religious fanaticism aside).

And instead we could be spending more of our time focused inwards, moulding an Australian culture, relying less on cliches and more on substance, protecting our precious gifts: beautiful beaches, forests, waterways, farming land, desert landscapes, tens of thousands of years of Aboriginal wisdom, a generous and compassionate multicultural society, an intelligent, sustainability-minded corporate culture able to engage in new technologies and the new economies they create, willing to protect our children from the devastation of climate change etc etc

If that's what Oi Oi Oi had come to represent, I'd be happy to belt it out.

But alas, this Treehugger will continue to cringe every time I hear it, and will be boycotting Australia Day until we acknowledge how offensive it is to Aboriginal people, and create an alternative day for celebrating our nation.

That man you speak of so negatively on the right of politics Reagan, was responsible for ending communism and bringing down the Berlin wall.

2 things that seamt completely impossible, throw in the Iran hostage situation and the guys a complete genius.You do speak of truths in regards to colonial exploits you do raise a good point I will agree but its a sad reality that who ever was the colonial power at the time was guilty of such atrocities whether it be western owned or eastern owned.And its been proven time and time again that the West treats its captives better than any other civilization.

This is an inconvenient truth for someone like you on the extreme left of politics that does his best to point out every little thing that is wrong with Australia.Despite the fact that Australia is a pure breed champion and the countries that plan to wipe it off the planet but are nothing but a complete mange filled mongrel.

But keep on knocking the pure breed and boycott Australia Day pal Im sure if it wasnt the Aborigines you would find some other reason to boycott Australia Day.The whole aboriginal thing for you is just a cop out its boycotting anything pro Australian that motivates you.You speak of our lovely deserts and our rainforests,Beautiful beaches etc etc well the only reason we enjoy them today is because the two things you cringe about most 1.WAR and The heroic deeds of "TEAM AUSTRALIA" and 2.The fact that Australia unlike 80% of the rest of the world is not a corruptible dog box so that we have kept our beautiful forests,waterways etc as they are and not suffered "TOO much" thru complete mismanagement.
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You speak of a generous and compassionate multicultural society,well they are virtues that "TEAM AUSTRALIA" has given them and the large percentage repay our faith but sadly not all.You know its a bloody long way from the middle east to Australia for a refugee and despite the 75 countries in between saying "get lost we aint havin ya"(including all their islamic brothers….HMMMMMM)you still seem to have the greatest problem with that one "racist" country that says yes will have you......you know that place you speak so negatively of "TEAM AUSTRALIA".

I hope you do realise that as you crap on Australia at every given chance there is an opposition just over the hill hoping to destroy every little thing that you and I cherish and as this cancer continues to grow at a phenomenal rate you just keep having a crack at the one thing that continues to fight it........"TEAM AUSTRALIA''.As the thread title does read AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI.

Crikey I had no idea that my starting a benign thread asking if people think we will ever rid ourselves of that persistent and irritating Aussie chant at major sporting events would end up here 😕 :question:

So much for light-hearted off season banter :laughing: I'm sure there are other threads more suited to this type of discussion.

 

[foreveratiger]

Flip , from a simple Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi , we have covered Politicians , Indigenous , Wars , Our Anzacs , Civilization.

You did well Flip covered all topics in one Thread :wink: :laughing:

 

[Tim Sheens]

FACTS, FACTS, FACTS.

Jerry, you regularly get into confrontations on here, FACT.

Reagan was a dimwit at leader level and could not discuss policy with his world peers when in office, FACT

You are correct about one thing, I hate right wing politics, FACT, but I am certainly not blinded by it, rather I see the results of their policy quite clearly.

On current trends, the richest one percent will have more than the other ninety nine percent next year, FACT

I sing the national anthem as loudly and proudly as anyone, FACT

 

[Flippedy]

Flip , from a simple Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi , we have covered Politicians , Indigenous , Wars , Our Anzacs , Civilization.

You did well Flip covered all topics in one Thread :wink: :laughing:

Yeah wow, maybe I should become a current affairs correspondent on Sixty Minutes :laughing:

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

FACTS, FACTS, FACTS.

Jerry, you regularly get into confrontations on here, FACT.

Reagan was a dimwit at leader level and could not discuss policy with his world peers when in office, FACT

You are correct about one thing, I hate right wing politics, FACT, but I am certainly not blinded by it, rather I see the results of their policy quite clearly.

On current trends, the richest one percent will have more than the other ninety nine percent next year, FACT

I sing the national anthem as loudly and proudly as anyone, FACT

Would you like to tell me and everyone else on here the "RESULTS" of Left wing politics.Reagan was a dimwit leader but was responsible for bringing down the Berlin Wall,stopping the cold war and a whole lot of north koreas and East Germanys springing up all over the world.Reagan is acknowledged as being one of the best presidents of all time by politicians on BOTH sides of US politics.FACT.

Perhaps if there was more "dimwits" like Reagan and less "geniuses" like eddie obeid,Joe tripodi and Kristina keneally in the world it would be a much better place.
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To get into a confrontation it takes "two" people.Me and "YOU".FACT.

 

[Geo]

Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi seems appropriate here…

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think its official, Ronald Reagan is probably the most random topic people have debated about on here. If we're talking about US presidents, i think Eisenhower, JFK and Nixon are much more interesting topics of conversation. One of my biggest hobbies is the history of American politics and its presidents. I have almost a libraries worth of books devoted to it.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

With no definable culture, what is Australian is always going to be open to interpretation, and therefore open to certain groups prescribing their own self-image.

It seems those who need to prescribe how others should be, tend to need others to mirror themselves to alleviate their insecurities. Hence, Mr Jones, well known for struggling to face his homosexuality.

Hence, also, the Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi chant being little more than a hollow, alcohol fuelled act of belligerence, for the most part.

Team Australia is just another cheap version of right wing (Bush/Reagan) politics, which relies on creating enemies to keep the nation focused outward, while the local landscape is manipulated to favour their corporate backers.

As in the past, it will be the people who pay for politicians playing such games, when they get sent to the frontline, or killed in terrorist attacks.

Perhaps if the wealthy West had have done more to acknowledge the atrocities of colonial exploits, and regulated corporate imperialism, those enemies who have become a self-fulfilling prophecy might be a little less determined to annihilate us (religious fanaticism aside).

And instead we could be spending more of our time focused inwards, moulding an Australian culture, relying less on cliches and more on substance, protecting our precious gifts: beautiful beaches, forests, waterways, farming land, desert landscapes, tens of thousands of years of Aboriginal wisdom, a generous and compassionate multicultural society, an intelligent, sustainability-minded corporate culture able to engage in new technologies and the new economies they create, willing to protect our children from the devastation of climate change etc etc

If that's what Oi Oi Oi had come to represent, I'd be happy to belt it out.

But alas, this Treehugger will continue to cringe every time I hear it, and will be boycotting Australia Day until we acknowledge how offensive it is to Aboriginal people, and create an alternative day for celebrating our nation.

That man you speak of so negatively on the right of politics Reagan, was responsible for ending communism and bringing down the Berlin wall.

2 things that seamt completely impossible, throw in the Iran hostage situation and the guys a complete genius.You do speak of truths in regards to colonial exploits you do raise a good point I will agree but its a sad reality that who ever was the colonial power at the time was guilty of such atrocities whether it be western owned or eastern owned.And its been proven time and time again that the West treats its captives better than any other civilization.

This is an inconvenient truth for someone like you on the extreme left of politics that does his best to point out every little thing that is wrong with Australia.Despite the fact that Australia is a pure breed champion and the countries that plan to wipe it off the planet but are nothing but a complete mange filled mongrel.

But keep on knocking the pure breed and boycott Australia Day pal Im sure if it wasnt the Aborigines you would find some other reason to boycott Australia Day.The whole aboriginal thing for you is just a cop out its boycotting anything pro Australian that motivates you.You speak of our lovely deserts and our rainforests,Beautiful beaches etc etc well the only reason we enjoy them today is because the two things you cringe about most 1.WAR and The heroic deeds of "TEAM AUSTRALIA" and 2.The fact that Australia unlike 80% of the rest of the world is not a corruptible dog box so that we have kept our beautiful forests,waterways etc as they are and not suffered "TOO much" thru complete mismanagement.
\
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You speak of a generous and compassionate multicultural society,well they are virtues that "TEAM AUSTRALIA" has given them and the large percentage repay our faith but sadly not all.You know its a bloody long way from the middle east to Australia for a refugee and despite the 75 countries in between saying "get lost we aint havin ya"(including all their islamic brothers….HMMMMMM)you still seem to have the greatest problem with that one "racist" country that says yes will have you......you know that place you speak so negatively of "TEAM AUSTRALIA".

I hope you do realise that as you crap on Australia at every given chance there is an opposition just over the hill hoping to destroy every little thing that you and I cherish and as this cancer continues to grow at a phenomenal rate you just keep having a crack at the one thing that continues to fight it........"TEAM AUSTRALIA''.As the thread title does read AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI.

Jerry, Why do you have to throw out so much venom , just because there is people who disagree with you?
You talk about the "pure breed", Well mate we'd probably be one of the most UNpure breeds in the World. Theres more breeds here than you can poke a stick at.
I , like some others here, also dislike the whole "Unaustralian" bit as well . Mainly because its mostly used by someone, at another person, because they have a different opinion.
However, if I did use that term I would probably use it to describe the way you try to belittle posters when they try to have a conversation here.
Slogans and Jingoistic rants and raves, (often by drunken yobbos) do absolutely nothing to enhance Australias standing anywhere in the world,
I'll bet that on Australia Day there will be just as many families who will quietly enjoy a day on the Beach, Park , Pool, Or just at home having a Barby, as there is, flagged draped (whether drunk or sober) and staggering out of a pub,
Whichever way that they want to show their loyalty to what is the best Country in the world(in most cases), does not worry me unless they interrupt others enjoyment.

As for the Team Australia, I dont have to be a member of ANY politicians ficticious team to be an Australian, and the slogan has nothing to do with the Country anyway, as it was purely a last ditch effort to convince fading voters to prop up an ailing Government. And before you start throwing your Leftist barbs at me , I voted for the TWIT
However, whoever I decide to vote for next time will not be decided by becoming a member of Team Australia.
Actually
I' not sure why you have this superiority complex about anyone who disagrees with you and your propensity for saying they Crap on Australia.when probably quite a lot of people agree with them
Your idea of Australia seems to be that we all agree and we put up this wall around the place , and unless everyone is willing to fall into your idea of what we should be, and how we should live, we hang a sign on then calling them Unaustralian.
You know what Jerry? a good example of Australia(You might think its a bit petty, but who cares) is last night some one started a fantasy league on the Forum, and called for anyone else who wanted to be in it, There was no stipulation of what religion we were, or what side of politics or where we lived, it was an open invitation , didnt matter if we had different opinions here or not.
It is just a bunch of blokes who in most cases , dont know each other. or much about each other. who intend to spend the next 6 or 7 month putting crap on each other over a football team
Maybe you should try that sometimes and lighten up and get rid of the superiority Complex
Whether you like it or not , chances are that most people here are just as good an Australian As you think you are.
Happy Australia Day

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Sorry I made a mistake about the makeup of our Fantasy League
It also includes Happys Missus and Young Bloke, my apologies to you both .

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

FACTS, FACTS, FACTS.

Jerry, you regularly get into confrontations on here, FACT.

Reagan was a dimwit at leader level and could not discuss policy with his world peers when in office, FACT

You are correct about one thing, I hate right wing politics, FACT, but I am certainly not blinded by it, rather I see the results of their policy quite clearly.

On current trends, the richest one percent will have more than the other ninety nine percent next year, FACT

I sing the national anthem as loudly and proudly as anyone, FACT

Would you like to tell me and everyone else on here the "RESULTS" of Left wing politics.Reagan was a dimwit leader but was responsible for bringing down the Berlin Wall,stopping the cold war and a whole lot of north koreas and East Germanys springing up all over the world.Reagan is acknowledged as being one of the best presidents of all time by politicians on BOTH sides of US politics.FACT.

Perhaps if there was more "dimwits" like Reagan and less "geniuses" like eddie obeid,Joe tripodi and Kristina keneally in the world it would be a much better place.
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To get into a confrontation it takes "two" people.Me and "YOU".FACT.

Didn't Reagan also discover the cure for the common cold too.
And I think he had a hand in the theory of relativity as well. And wasn't he that bloke who used to get changed in a phone box and fly off to defend the American way????

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

FACTS, FACTS, FACTS.

Jerry, you regularly get into confrontations on here, FACT.

Reagan was a dimwit at leader level and could not discuss policy with his world peers when in office, FACT

You are correct about one thing, I hate right wing politics, FACT, but I am certainly not blinded by it, rather I see the results of their policy quite clearly.

On current trends, the richest one percent will have more than the other ninety nine percent next year, FACT

I sing the national anthem as loudly and proudly as anyone, FACT

Would you like to tell me and everyone else on here the "RESULTS" of Left wing politics.Reagan was a dimwit leader but was responsible for bringing down the Berlin Wall,stopping the cold war and a whole lot of north koreas and East Germanys springing up all over the world.Reagan is acknowledged as being one of the best presidents of all time by politicians on BOTH sides of US politics.FACT.

Perhaps if there was more "dimwits" like Reagan and less "geniuses" like eddie obeid,Joe tripodi and Kristina keneally in the world it would be a much better place.
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To get into a confrontation it takes "two" people.Me and "YOU".FACT.

Didn't Reagan also discover the cure for the common cold .
And I think he had a hand in the theory of relativity as well. And wasn't he that bloke who used to get changed in a phone box and flew off to defend the American way????

 

[Tim Sheens]

Enough of this Jerry, you are reminding me of an employee of more than ten years that has only just gotten his life back together after getting dragged in by his brother and getting lost in the hatred amongst anti-islam networks over the last year.

He became a very angry man, argumentative over just about anything, and to the point that I had to send him home and put him on holidays for a few weeks. He has separated himself from those people, and his brother to a certain extent, beginning the new year as his old self, and getting along with everyone again.

I think it is fair to say that you have also become an angry man of late (at least on here), so if you are engaging in the aforementioned, please consider that like him, it may also be the reason.

If you really want me to start listing the policy impacts of political wings, I am happy to do so, but I am pretty sure you already know, or if not, at least where to find out.

 

[cktiger]

It always amazes me how anyone from one side of politics thinks anyone from, or supporting, the other side, must be brain dead and considers their own opinion superior.
It shows itself with the left forever thinking they have a moral superiority over the right and the right believing no-one from the left can add two and two together.
As for the chant?
Blame AC/DC and T.N.T , oi, oi, oi