Australian of the Year - Dylan Alcott

@gallagher said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524045) said:
![Screenshot_20220126-203940_Chrome.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1643200855840-screenshot_20220126-203940_chrome.jpg)

Oh so true.

Yet some still cannot or simply do not want to see that which stares back at them in a mirror, even if someone they have the utmost respect for someone standing there alongside making eye contact with them to point it out.

A good chance that the man himself Dylan Alcott will have corresponded directly with Kurt on the same matter. Whilst it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks, I truly hope that the incident has created enough discussion such as that on here, that it lead to some reflection and at least a partial change of heart for some.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.
 
@gnr4life said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523931) said:
Just did a google search on Grace Tame cos that’s how up to date I am. I note she’s a advocate for survivors of sexual assault. Weren’t there rape allegations in Parliament about a year ago that he completely stuffed up on? No wonder she looks like he just farted.

She has valid reasons to not like Scomo, and IMO she had a bigger obligation to not let that detract from her role.
 
@formerguest said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524000) said:
Imagine expecting someone who's friends have been getting backgrounded by the Prime Minister’s office to respect that man regardless of party.

Honestly, if it was you, would you even shake his hand to be polite, let alone be expecting say your daughter or partner to, or would you tell him to [censored] off?

If I accepted a role, from the Australian Government, then yes, regardless of who the leader of the Australian Government was, I would extend the respect of courteousness, regardless of how I felt about that individual.

If I could not muster up that minimal respect for the leader of the Australian Government, I would hope that I wouldnt have accepted the role.
 
@swordy said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524085) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.

I agree the AOTY shouldn't be political, Grace made her feelings known by having the smiley photo opportunity with Albo and Hanson Young.
Alcott I'm sure will keep politics out of the AOTY as it should be
 
@swordy said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524085) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.

Just because you hold an office doesn’t earn you instant respect. Unfortunately for Scott he treats some people with disrespect and people see that and respond to it. You’re right that politics should come into it, your character should.
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524096) said:
@swordy said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524085) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.

Just because you hold an office doesn’t earn you instant respect. Unfortunately for Scott he treats some people with disrespect and people see that and respond to it. You’re right that politics should come into it, your character should.

remember that when Albo gets in I guess
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524098) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524096) said:
@swordy said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524085) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.

Just because you hold an office doesn’t earn you instant respect. Unfortunately for Scott he treats some people with disrespect and people see that and respond to it. You’re right that politics should come into it, your character should.

remember that when Albo gets in I guess

It’s not political for me and as I said I don’t care who’s in I’ll judge them on their character.

The question should be why did someone act a certain way not a directive that they can’t do it .

Anyhow, politics aren’t my thing I’ll leave it at that. Dylan is a great advocate for all people and inclusive environments and is a positive individual who brings good vibes to everything he does. Let’s celebrate that rather than get bogged down in discussion around what the last person did.
 
@gnr4life said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524060) said:
Scomo has one of the greatest politician smiles I have ever seen.

It looks like the grimace he would've had on his face just before he annihilated his jocks in that McDonalds. He's a grot.
 
@swordy said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524085) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.

By that reasoning Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should of been respected by all Americans then?
Saddam Hussein?

A person can be considered a scumbag regardless of their status.
 
Morrison himself doesn't respect the office of Prime Minister or even the Parliament.

![b34d9bb1-f8d2-4c94-b6c5-000ba96627c8-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1643243916704-b34d9bb1-f8d2-4c94-b6c5-000ba96627c8-image.png)

But oh noes, the abuse survivor/advocate didn't play nice for his photo op, that's definitely the problem here (/oldguy)
 
Such a respectful guy himself. Bob Hawke's funeral.

![bc92218a-5979-4d42-8fbc-048d1d61eae7-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1643244690640-bc92218a-5979-4d42-8fbc-048d1d61eae7-image.png)

And,

Just plain creepy:

![1a48817a-1060-4988-a16a-b88ff5f791d2-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1643244739690-1a48817a-1060-4988-a16a-b88ff5f791d2-image.png)

Guessing you blokes reckon the young lady in that photo should just 'smile' and be 'polite'? What the hell is **her** problem, eh?
 
@pascoes_barber said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524114) said:
Such a respectful guy himself. Bob Hawke's funeral.

![bc92218a-5979-4d42-8fbc-048d1d61eae7-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1643244690640-bc92218a-5979-4d42-8fbc-048d1d61eae7-image.png)

And,

Just plain creepy:

![1a48817a-1060-4988-a16a-b88ff5f791d2-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1643244739690-1a48817a-1060-4988-a16a-b88ff5f791d2-image.png)

Guessing you blokes reckon the young lady in that photo should just 'smile' and be 'polite'? What the hell is **her** problem, eh?

Agree with all of that....if that was all there was. The staged photo ops with Albo and Hansen Young tell the rest of the story.

Speaking for myself, I think Tame did a poor job in her role as AotY, based on what she did for the year, not the last day photo op (although for me that cemented my opinion that she is a partisan political actor grifting for her future). The entire year every headline about Tame was Tame v Scomo and not about helping survivors.

I think Tame did a great thing when she stood up to have her name recorded and that act alone was a powerful action to bring the light and support to survivors of sexual abuse. Based on that she was a wonderful choice for AotY. IMO its a shame she let her politics and her immense (probably well earned) dislike for Scomo colour and distract from her role.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524098) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524096) said:
@swordy said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524085) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524061) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524059) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523974) said:
@rustycage said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523967) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1523776) said:
Grace Tame is all political she will end up representing Greens or Labor down the track
Good choice Alcott

Seriously, what a stupid comment. Morrison's a flog. Tame treated him as he deserves. You just hate the fact that someone dissed your hero.

She was rude simple
Albo is the flog mate

Yeah, of course. Shes not the first to not want to shake his hand. Like it or not, there's a pattern here and you'd have to question why it's the case. :clown_face:

I guess Albo has got to get there first doesn't he. If he does then I guess conservatives can be rude to him at the Lodge too

It shouldn't matter what side if politics you come from. If Albo becomes PM, he should be treated with the dignity and respect that comes with the position, the elected representative of our country.

And I can't see Dylan Alcott using that political style leverage to get what he hopes to achieve. They all have hopes and causes, and almost always noble ones, but Australians don't take the politics well and so you get more traction mileage from being a decent and respectful person as this guy is.

Regardless of the politics, let's all support the guy.

Just because you hold an office doesn’t earn you instant respect. Unfortunately for Scott he treats some people with disrespect and people see that and respond to it. You’re right that politics should come into it, your character should.

remember that when Albo gets in I guess

In my previous job, I had cause to spend a lot of time with various dignitaries within Australia and guest from O/S. The side of politics has not been an issue although I hold my personal views, which is everyone's right. If Albo is PM, I absolutely would treat him with respect in those circumstances as he has been elected by and is **representative of the people**, no different to Scomo, Kevin Rudd, Gillard, John Howard, Bob Hawke, and my absolute favorite PM of my living years - Paul Keating.

If you dont want Scomo as your representative, or Albo as your representative because you dont like either as a person, you have every right to lodge that vote at the right time.

Again, I'd like to be back on topic and see support for Dylan Alcott.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524088) said:
@formerguest said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524000) said:
Imagine expecting someone who's friends have been getting backgrounded by the Prime Minister’s office to respect that man regardless of party.

Honestly, if it was you, would you even shake his hand to be polite, let alone be expecting say your daughter or partner to, or would you tell him to [censored] off?

If I accepted a role, from the Australian Government, then yes, regardless of who the leader of the Australian Government was, I would extend the respect of courteousness, regardless of how I felt about that individual.

If I could not muster up that minimal respect for the leader of the Australian Government, I would hope that I wouldnt have accepted the role.

At least you answered the question and if the role was part of the Australian government one might expect some kowtowing in the absence of resignation, but it is Australian of the Year decided by independent panels.

Grace showed respect to Morrison as can clearly be seen in early media of her tenure. That he and his office eroded all remnants of it over time and as she wasn't appointed by him or his government, she and all other victims owe him absolutely nothing. The rise of these victims is built on no longer being quiet and letting others cover it up, no longer being the victim and calling out those that foster it, including the Prime Minister’s office of another whitewash.

Even the man's peers know him as a disgusting liar and have stated it to the world, yet we have some still thinking that a young lady, along with her friends and confidants should just cop it from the most powerful man in the land and his henchmen, then suck it up and smile. Kurt Fearnley stated it well.

Expect it from a few regardless of the issue, but actually disappointed that you are willing to leave your coat hanging there on this. The only other time I felt similarly here was my dismay with @TillLindemann regarding the January 6th Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon attempt to maintain power.
 
@pascoes_barber said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524112) said:
Morrison himself doesn't respect the office of Prime Minister or even the Parliament.

![b34d9bb1-f8d2-4c94-b6c5-000ba96627c8-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1643243916704-b34d9bb1-f8d2-4c94-b6c5-000ba96627c8-image.png)

But oh noes, the abuse survivor/advocate didn't play nice for his photo op, that's definitely the problem here (/oldguy)

You're being a little bit selective, I think. Bob Carr did exactly the same. It's a common parliamentary tactic.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Australian of the Year \- Dylan Alcott](/post/1524116) said:
Agree with all of that....if that was all there was. The staged photo ops with Albo and Hansen Young tell the rest of the story.

Of course. How dare she.

Speaking for myself, I think Tame did a poor job in her role as AotY, based on what she did for the year, not the last day photo op (although for me that cemented my opinion that she is a partisan political actor grifting for her future). The entire year every headline about Tame was Tame v Scomo and not about helping survivors.

I think Tame did a great thing when she stood up to have her name recorded and that act alone was a powerful action to bring the light and support to survivors of sexual abuse. Based on that she was a wonderful choice for AotY. IMO its a shame she let her politics and her immense (probably well earned) dislike for Scomo colour and distract from her role.

Indeed, such a shame she doesn't know her 'proper' place like the womenfolk did back in your day.
 
I cant wait for this election to come and go, and we can all once again be united behind whoever the hell ends up being PM and get on with watching WT strive for 9th.

Once again, back on topic and Congratulations to Dylan Alcott
 
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